[QUOTE=Dr. Freeman;23090828]I don't know, you sounded pretty dumb in that log, now all of a sudden you don't want to look stupid so you're Mr. good and honest man.[/QUOTE]
I admit the point about population control was something I uttered without thinking. This chat mostly resides on hours of previous debating, so you're not really seeing the whole picture. Like arguments I've had with him about piracy, the only thing that's really annoying me is when people try to justify it, ignoring any and all negative effects.
[QUOTE=GranaMan;23090775]I found this on WikiAnswers; of course you shouldn't believe everything you read on the internet but still its interesting.[/QUOTE]
Most of that is complete bullshit.
[QUOTE=SA Spyder;23090816]Don't judge me based on some shitty chat log.[/QUOTE]
you expressed true opinions during a private conversation, you came here to "clarify" your opinion
[QUOTE=s0m3_guy;23090864]you expressed true opinions during a private conversation, you came here to "clarify" your opinion[/QUOTE]
Of course, for the sake of saving face, stick with first impressions.
Stop looking at the chat log. What I'm posting here is my opinion. Even though I somewhat praise weed in general, I still don't ignore the negative sides. Personally, I wouldn't touch the stuff, so that's probably why he's so butthurt.
[QUOTE=SA Spyder;23090856]I admit the point about population control was something I uttered without thinking. This chat mostly resides on hours of previous debating, so you're not really seeing the whole picture. Like arguments I've had with him about piracy, the only thing that's really annoying me is when people try to justify it, ignoring any and all negative effects.[/QUOTE]
I've said MANY times to you that I know smoking is harmful. In fact IN THAT CHATLOG I said it. And don't blame it on them not having all the previous conversations, because it's exactly the same argument. I believe I even have older chatlogs posted in DD
[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;23090917]I've said MANY times to you that I know smoking is harmful. In fact IN THAT CHATLOG I said it. And don't blame it on them not having all the previous conversations, because it's exactly the same argument. I believe I even have older chatlogs posted in DD[/QUOTE]
3:32 PM - The Reverend Tholomew Plague: there ARE no negatives
[QUOTE=SA Spyder;23090888]Of course, for the sake of saving face, stick with first impressions.
Stop looking at the chat log. What I'm posting here is my opinion. Even though I somewhat praise weed in general, I still don't ignore the negative sides. Personally, I wouldn't touch the stuff, so that's probably why he's so butthurt.[/QUOTE]
why should I stop reading whats already posted?
[QUOTE=SA Spyder;23090690]If you can accept that it has some negative affects in the long run, I'll accept that weed is generally rather healthy for you.[/QUOTE]
Tobacco has negative effects in the long run. So does alcohol. And eating too much sugar or fat. Weed does as well.
Yet only one of these is illegal.
It isn't the government's job to protect us from ourselves.
[QUOTE=SA Spyder;23090949]3:32 PM - The Reverend Tholomew Plague: there ARE no negatives[/QUOTE]
That's talking about weed itself.
3:32 PM - The Reverend Tholomew Plague: the smoke does
3:32 PM - The Reverend Tholomew Plague: the weed doesn't
3:32 PM - mKTank: you're an idiot for thinking it may have some positive effects, but you can't run away from the negative
3:32 PM - The Reverend Tholomew Plague: there ARE no negatives
3:32 PM - mKTank: guess what, like 99% of people who do weed smoke it
3:32 PM - The Reverend Tholomew Plague: guess what, that doesn't make weed harmful
[QUOTE=Zeke129;23090968]Tobacco has negative effects in the long run. So does alcohol. And eating too much sugar or fat. Weed does as well.
Yet only one of these is illegal.
It isn't the government's job to protect us from ourselves.[/QUOTE]
I don't think Alchohol should be legall personally.
[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;23090969]That's talking about weed itself.
3:32 PM - The Reverend Tholomew Plague: the smoke does
3:32 PM - The Reverend Tholomew Plague: the weed doesn't
3:32 PM - mKTank: you're an idiot for thinking it may have some positive effects, but you can't run away from the negative
3:32 PM - The Reverend Tholomew Plague: there ARE no negatives
3:32 PM - mKTank: guess what, like 99% of people who do weed smoke it
3:32 PM - The Reverend Tholomew Plague: guess what, that doesn't make weed harmful[/QUOTE]
I was talking about weed whilst keeping in mind the most popular consumption method. If you'd rather vape or whatever, good for you, but most people still smoke the stuff, and that's where I base my opinion.
[QUOTE=Lemonator;23090491]Too bad legalizing will only provoke more people to smoke joints in public to look cool.
It would be best to keep the 'hurr i um cool smoke weed erryday losers' away from the general group who smokes a bong inside to enjoy it.[/QUOTE]
if they give weed the same legal standards as alcohol, smoking in public will get you a fine
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;23090996]I don't think Alchohol should be legall personally.[/QUOTE]
Alcohol is nasty in high amounts, everyone knows this, neither do I, but look at what prohibition cause.
If anyone is interested, here's the said thread in DD that has chatlogs from several months ago.
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=934866[/url]
[editline]05:08PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=SA Spyder;23091010]I was talking about weed whilst keeping in mind the most popular consumption method. If you'd rather vape or whatever, good for you, but most people still smoke the stuff, and that's where I base my opinion.[/QUOTE]
Are you stupid? The [b]smoke[/b] is what's harmful. Not the weed.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;23090968]Tobacco has negative effects in the long run. So does alcohol. And eating too much sugar or fat. Weed does as well.
Yet only one of these is illegal.
It isn't the government's job to protect us from ourselves.[/QUOTE]
If it were up to me, I'd legalize weed and make tobacco illegal.
Hell, I'm pro weed and I do think it has negatives.
The whole onset of Schizophrenia thing is the big one in my opinion but it seems it's only an issue if you already have underlying Schizophrenia at which point it simply speeds up the onset of it.
But to be honest, weed is kinda boring as a drug. There's so much better stuff out there that has negligible negatives.
[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;23091016]If anyone is interested, here's the said thread in DD that has chatlogs from several months ago.
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=934866[/url]
[editline]05:08PM[/editline]
Are you stupid? The [b]smoke[/b] is what's harmful. Not the weed.[/QUOTE]
If you're just going to repeat yourself ignoring that the most popular method of consumption is harmful, then I think I'm just going to quit right now because I have slightly better things to do than talk to a brick wall.
[QUOTE=Dr. Freeman;23091015]Alcohol is nasty in high amounts, everyone knows this, neither do I, but look at what prohibition cause.[/QUOTE]
Exacly! You can't make Alchohol illegal, it's already accepted in suciety and lots of people are addicted.
[QUOTE=Sethorion;23091032]Hell, I'm pro weed and I do think it has negatives.
The whole onset of Schizophrenia thing is the big one in my opinion but it seems it's only an issue if you already have underlying Schizophrenia at which point it simply speeds up the onset of it.
But to be honest, weed is kinda boring as a drug. There's so much better stuff out there that has negligible negatives.[/QUOTE]
This, the mental effects concern me more than the respiratory.
I've argued with SA Spyder before and he's just as dumb as the chat log proves. Nothing has changed, and he's just trying to not look stupid.
[editline]05:13PM[/editline]
You shouldn't make something illegal because it's bad for you. You should make it legal so they can regulate and control it and treat for it and make it go away. You shouldn't ban what you don't like, what's bad for you. That just creates an underground culture that seperates us further. It's bad.
Does anyone actually ever think?
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;23091071]Exacly! You can't make Alchohol illegal, it's already accepted in suciety and lots of people are addicted.[/QUOTE]
Which is an issue, a massive one. Thankfully, I choose to stay away from it all.
[QUOTE=SA Spyder;23091057]If you're just going to repeat yourself ignoring that the most popular method of consumption is harmful, then I think I'm just going to quit right now because I have slightly better things to do than talk to a brick wall.[/QUOTE]
If you're just going to repeat yourself ignoring that the most popular method of consumption is not harmful, then I think I'm just going to quit right now because I have slightly better things to do than talk to a brick wall.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;23091078]I've argued with SA Spyder before and he's just as dumb as the chat log proves. Nothing has changed, and he's just trying to not look stupid.[/QUOTE]
Baww he disagreed with me, he stupid
EDIT: Oh right, you were trying to justify piracy. Hah.
[QUOTE=SA Spyder;23091057]If you're just going to repeat yourself ignoring that the most popular method of consumption is harmful, then I think I'm just going to quit right now because I have slightly better things to do than talk to a brick wall.[/QUOTE]
We're arguing that weed is harmful\harmless. It's been established that the smoke from smoking is harmful. That's the only thing you've legitimately proven is harmful, and when asked to actually prove something else is harmful in it, you not only refuse to answer that, but say that because that's the main way it's consumed that you don't need to.
Yeah, I'm the wall.
This argument is pointless.
[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;23091121]We're arguing that weed is harmful\harmless. It's been established that the smoke from smoking is harmful. That's the only thing you've legitimately proven is harmful, and when asked to actually prove something else is harmful in it, you not only refuse to answer that, but say that because that's the main way it's consumed that you don't need to.
Yeah, I'm the wall.[/QUOTE]
Like I said, when I say 'weed,' I mean smoking weed, since I'm talking about the most popular way to consume it. I never said vaping was bad, nor whatever other safe way you can consume it. You misunderstood me and thus came here crying to your weed friends, blowing everything out of proportion.
[QUOTE=Dr. Freeman;23091109]Which is an issue, a massive one. Thankfully, I choose to stay away from it all.[/QUOTE]
Exacly, me too. I don't believe in drugs of any sort. I don't like alcohol, tobacc or any other drugs. I do not support legalization. I mean look at what alcohol does, and how many crimes and accidents involve alchohol? I don't want more of that.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;23091241]Exacly, me too. I don't believe in drugs of any sort. I don't like alcohol, tobacc or any other drugs. I do not support legalization. I mean look at what alcohol does, and how many crimes and accidents involve alchohol? I don't want more of that.[/QUOTE]
You use painkillers or drink caffeine?
Guess what, you use drugs.
[QUOTE=SA Spyder;23091191]Like I said, when I say 'weed,' I mean smoking weed, since I'm talking about the most popular way to consume it. I never said vaping was bad, nor whatever other safe way you can consume it. You misunderstood me and thus came here crying to your weed friends, blowing everything out of proportion.[/QUOTE]
All of your sources (see thread I linked to) bitch about how WEED is harmful no matter HOW you consume it. Until now you also bitched that WEED has harmful side effects, with no implication at you meaning smoking it, and carried the argument on without any implication of that. Even in this last log you argue that the smoke why it's illegal (which isn't even why it's illegal), but then go on to argue that it is in fact the weed itself and not just the smoke.
[QUOTE=Sethorion;23091265]You use painkillers or drink caffeine?
Guess what, you use drugs.[/QUOTE]
I do not.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;23091299]I do not.[/QUOTE]
Damn man, you're hardcore.
Still, drugs are a very important part of society as far as medicine goes. Recreational drugs are also very fun when used in a social situation.
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