• Volvo unveils first car with 'pedestrian' airbags
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[QUOTE=TestECull;35025252] my hood hinges are worth more than idiots that can't look both ways before crossing, and if the mistake is on my part I deserve the consequences resulting from splattering someone's gran all over my windshield. [/QUOTE] Are you serious? No one gives a fuck if you deserve the consequences of hitting someone. No one wants you to go to jail for a lifetime you fucking dolt; what they want is for their grandmother not to be splattered over your windshield just because you're too naive to use airbags. You sound like some pompous asshole saying 'my hood hinges are worth more than their life'. Have you ever considered that people have a bad day? That sometimes they have too many things on their mind to think perfectly clearly?
[QUOTE=TestECull;35026831]Part of the consequences is having to come to terms with the fact that, because of that mistake, somewhere a young child is asking their mom if daddy's ever going to come back home only to be told he's never going to because some idiot couldn't control their car. The guilt of having caused an unnecessary death is one of the consequences that I'd deserve if I mow down an innocent pedestrian.[/QUOTE] Stop caring only about yourself. Oh no, you have to suffer knowing you killed someone. How about the victim who could've been saved? His grieving family? Those are the real consequences, not your guilt. I don't give a damn about what you deserve, I want to know that when a drunk driver slams into a pedestrian this airbag will raise his chances of living.
Oh Fuck. [img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2149114/NEW/images/12%20march/129191931099449916.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=DrLuke;35024218]Volvo 4 lyfe I'm driving a Volvo 940 and I couldn't wish for more.[/QUOTE] Yeah man, '95 with comfy cloth interior. Got it from my grandparents...
I keep imagining someone running into a pedestrian, and the airbags catapulting them through the air like one of these things. [IMG]http://www.bluestarcamps.com/images/page-graphics/prospfamilies/blob.jpg[/IMG]
I actually find myself agreeing with TestECull. If you're dumb enough to cross a road without looking, your loss I guess?maybe you should take the five extra seconds and just turn your head to the left, and then to the right. And he didn't admit defeat, he just knows that there are more important things then arguing on a forum online.
[QUOTE=bdd458;35030318]I actually find myself agreeing with TestECull. If you're dumb enough to cross a road without looking, your loss I guess?maybe you should take the five extra seconds and just turn your head to the left, and then to the right.[/quote] What about for those unforeseen situations? Where the inevitable collision is going to occur. Someone tripped near the edge of the footpath. Do they not deserve a safety buffer, such as a pedestrian airbag if it's avaiable? Or are they just removing themselves from the genepool, because of a mere accident, like TestECull is suggesting. Their comments are so idiotic it's ridiculous, and I find it hard that any normal person can agree with them. [QUOTE=bdd458;35030318]And he didn't admit defeat, he just knows that there are more important things then arguing on a forum online.[/QUOTE] For someone who claims they hate society and take and take as little part in society as they can, I doubt that.
[QUOTE=bdd458;35030318]I actually find myself agreeing with TestECull. If you're dumb enough to cross a road without looking, your loss I guess?maybe you should take the five extra seconds and just turn your head to the left, and then to the right. And he didn't admit defeat, he just knows that there are more important things then arguing on a forum online.[/QUOTE] Yes it's their fault for getting hit by a car, but that doesn't mean they deserve to get hit or die. I mean damn, it's a human life we are talking about. Valuing your car over a human being... that's weird.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;35030448]What about for those unforeseen situations? Where the inevitable collision is going to occur. Someone tripped near the edge of the footpath. Do they not deserve a safety buffer, such as a pedestrian airbag if it's avaiable? Or are they just removing themselves from the genepool, because of a mere accident, like TestECull is suggesting. Their comments are so idiotic it's ridiculous, and I find it hard that any normal person can agree with them. [/quote] That's life. Shit happens, in the end the world is still turning. [quote=DogGunn;35030448] For someone who claims they hate society and take and take as little part in society as they can, I doubt that.[/QUOTE] You don't pick up on sarcasm easily do you? [editline]6th March 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Swebonny;35030613]Yes it's their fault for getting hit by a car, but that doesn't mean they deserve to get hit or die. I mean damn, it's a human life we are talking about. Valuing your car over a human being... that's weird.[/QUOTE] I am one believes in fate, and everyone's fate is to die in the end. It's the one indispuatable fact that no one can start a war over. Everyone dies. And it was probably their fate to die. May not be the prettiest or nicest way to go, but it was bound to happen eventually. [editline]6th March 2012[/editline] Also, when he made that comment about not participating in society comment I thought of three thing. One, that's irony because he's talking on an online forum. Secondly, that it was Sarcasm. Thirdly, a Monty Python Sketch about a village of Hermits who were escaping from idle chitchat by idly chitchatting themselves.
I don't get it You have to hit something before the airbags deploy. Sounds a bit like your parachute opening after you hit the ground to me
[QUOTE=bdd458;35030641]That's life. Shit happens, in the end the world is still turning.[/quote] [QUOTE=bdd458;35030641]I am one believes in fate, and everyone's fate is to die in the end. It's the one indispuatable fact that no one can start a war over. Everyone dies. And it was probably their fate to die. May not be the prettiest or nicest way to go, but it was bound to happen eventually.[/quote] But they don't deserve an airbag, because it deploying would destroy the bonnet, and they don't deserve to live, because it's their fate? WTF is wrong with you? If the airbag is an option, and it's going to save peoples lives, either when they stupidly step out onto the road, or if they fall onto the road, or if you lose control of your car, then it's a good thing, and valuable for any car, and person on this planet. How stupid can you get to agree with someone like TestECull? [QUOTE=bdd458;35030641]You don't pick up on sarcasm easily do you?[/quote] How is that sarcasm? You state you agree with them, and then sarcastically attempt to poke at the weight of their point? Makes no sense. [editline]7th March 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=TheTalon;35030764]You have to hit something before the airbags deploy. Sounds a bit like your parachute opening after you hit the ground to me[/QUOTE] Airbags explode to inflate - they inflate faster than you can blink your eye. So as soon as a trigger has been set, airbag inflated.
[QUOTE=TheTalon;35030764]I don't get it You have to hit something before the airbags deploy. Sounds a bit like your parachute opening after you hit the ground to me[/QUOTE] Yeah, you're going to get hurt, it's just lowering your risk of death. There was a link in here that stated that pedestrian airbags lowered the risk of death on 40km/h impacts to ~15%. So even with the airbags you're going to get serious hurt.
[QUOTE]Yeah. fuck people. I hate people. I hate society in general and spend as little time in it as possible. I don't imagine it's hard to tell I'm not a social type.[/QUOTE] Me too, I pretty much hate all the people that I meet in real life. Anyway, the idea of "pedestrian airbags" is interesting, looking forward to see it in use.
I could imagine this being used in some extreme version of bumper cars.
[QUOTE=Deiru;35024266]It isn't really explained in the article, but how does this actually work? Internal airbags are set off by the impact, but surely by the time the impact is made on an external pedestrian, the time for airbags would be too late for them? Or am I failing to understand something simple here.[/QUOTE] cars thesedays have sensors, many airbags arent actually set off by the impact itself.
[QUOTE=Deiru;35024266]It isn't really explained in the article, but how does this actually work? Internal airbags are set off by the impact, but surely by the time the impact is made on an external pedestrian, the time for airbags would be too late for them? Or am I failing to understand something simple here.[/QUOTE] Yeah, plus airbags in cars are made to soften your face's impact on hard surfaces (like your steering wheel or dashboard) in the [i]direction[/i] you would be flying to hit it. If something pops OUT when you hit someone, isn't it going to send them to the pavement harder/faster?
Isn't TestECull the guy who said he refused to go hybrid or electric because they didn't make the same satisfying sound when driving as a regular engine does? He's clearly massively egocentric.
[QUOTE=FlyingDog2;35032785]Isn't TestECull the guy who said he refused to go hybrid or electric because they didn't make the same satisfying sound when driving as a regular engine does? He's clearly massively egocentric.[/QUOTE] I don't think we need evidence from other threads to see that
[QUOTE=gnome;35032347]Yeah, plus airbags in cars are made to soften your face's impact on hard surfaces (like your steering wheel or dashboard) in the [I]direction[/I] you would be flying to hit it. If something pops OUT when you hit someone, isn't it going to send them to the pavement harder/faster?[/QUOTE] I would assume (and hope) that Volvo actually put some thought into this and know what they are doing. As for people complaining about how it deploying could cost them money, have you considered for a second that its probably a lot cheaper than the damage done by the impact of a human against a windshield and then a bonnet?
[QUOTE=TestECull;35027037]You gonna hand out a free Volvo V40 to everyone who can't afford one? I don't either. People like that are why systems like this get invented in the first place. [editline]6th March 2012[/editline] Yeah. fuck people. I hate people. I hate society in general and spend as little time in it as possible. I don't imagine it's hard to tell I'm not a social type.[/QUOTE] I feel sorry for you, blinded by arrogance to the point where you probably have no friends and even your family hate you because you're so damn adamant that your the perfec human being. Yeah socialising is for the weak the true stars of the human race are the ones that sit on an Internet forum all day talking about how everyone who isn't them is a moron. You need help mate, being stuck in your perfect bubble doesn't work when you DO actually have to get out intO that place with all the morons and get a job
[QUOTE=TestECull;35027151]They do thousands of dollars of damage when they deploy, matter of fact I wouldn't be surprised if the airbag itself costs more than a grand in this situation, and I don't want to have my car totalled out because some dipshit can't be bothered to look both ways before walking into the street. I feel sorry for innocent peds that get mowed down by people who can't drive, but I harbor no sympathy for people who dart out into traffic and expect cars to bend the laws of physics. I'd be too dead to care. I have plenty of empathy for innocent pedestrians that get hit by drunk drivers or something, but I have zero for retards that can't look both ways before crossing a street......you know what? fuck it. I've said my piece. I don't need to keep defending myself against a bunch of anonymous screen names on a gaming forum. You guys have fun flaming me.[/QUOTE] This is the reason I never feel safe on the road, knowing that someone this brainless is driving a 2 ton machine.
[QUOTE=TestECull;35025252] if the mistake is on my part I deserve the consequences resulting from splattering someone's gran all over my windshield. [/QUOTE] No amount of consequences are going to give someone back their grandmother.
Ok This thread has a lot of assumptions and just illogical thinking: First of all, no matter how good of a driver you are, accidents can occur. Deal with it. Second of all, if you hit a pedestrian at 40 km/h, your car will be heavily damaged anyway. Deal with it. How the system works: Volvo allready have pedestrian detection in their new cars. This system uses a camera in the windshield and a sensor in the grill to detect pedestrians (and also figure out what's not). If it detects an imminent collision it will apply the brake. It will completely stop the car before the collision if you drive below 30 km/h (19mph), and seriously reduce damage over that speed. This system is of course also installed in the new Volvo V40, and is now also used in cooperation with the exterior airbag system. This means that no one can kick your car to activate it. Neither will it deploy if you drive into a pole. Furthermore, a pedestrian will never be blown away by this air bag simply because of logic. If you hit a pedestrian fast enough for him to go over the hood, he will have a great deal of momentum, which will counteract the "blowing-him-away"-idea some of you had. [img]http://i.imgur.com/lr9sM.jpg[/img] This will therefore never happen: [img]http://www.bluestarcamps.com/images/page-graphics/prospfamilies/blob.jpg[/img]
Im imagining some person being sent through the air by the air bags deploying :v:
This reminds me of when I got my new Ford Fiesta last year. Looked at the whole range and was told that if I were to crash a Ford KA, I would be safer being hit by the vehicle than being in it. Uh...okay. Good advice. Before you crash, jump in the way of the vehicle.
Who gives a shit about the airbags? [I]NEW V40. LOOK AT THAT SEXY ANIMAL.[/I]
I kinda agree with TestECull on some parts, if you're stupid enough to step infront of two tonnes of non caring metal going 50km/h+ with no way of the person of said two tonnes of metallic death knowing you are going to do so. You kinda deserve what's happens to you, and there's probably a darwin award waiting for you in [insert your religions version of heaven/hell here]
[QUOTE=Crimor;35035016]I kinda agree with TestECull on some parts, if you're stupid enough to step infront of two tonnes of non caring metal going 50km/h+ with no way of the person of said two tonnes of metallic death knowing you are going to do so. You kinda deserve what's happens to you, and there's probably a darwin award waiting for you in [insert your religions version of heaven/hell here][/QUOTE] Yeah, if you step in front of two tonnes of metal going 50km/h, you're obviously dumb, but that doesn't mean a cars hood hinges is worth more than said dumb person's life, like TestECull is apparently saying. OH and some times drivers also make mistakes and it's their fault when they hit a pedestrian, but apparently that's fine if they die because TestECull deserves the consequences anyways, so let's not even try to make it safer for pedestrians!
Which is why I said I only kinda agree with him, I wouldn't really care much if he lived or died if that happened, but I'd prefer living so when he gets better, so I can tell him how big of an idiot he is.
[QUOTE=Crimor;35035016]I kinda agree with TestECull on some parts, if you're stupid enough to step infront of two tonnes of non caring metal going 50km/h+ with no way of the person of said two tonnes of metallic death knowing you are going to do so. You kinda deserve what's happens to you, and there's probably a darwin award waiting for you in [insert your religions version of heaven/hell here][/QUOTE] in that case we should remove seatbelts and airbags from cars too, after all, if you're dumb enough to crash into stationary, non-caring concrete at 70 mph, you must be too dumb to live anyway
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