• Sanders on Trump: 'This guy is a fraud'
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[QUOTE=ironman17;51780854]I think I like the idea of having Tulsi Gabbard as a candidate. She appears to have healthy, progressive stances on a lot of subjects, for one thing.[/QUOTE] Her position on gun control is mostly shit though. That being said, I'd take her over Trump. I'd take goddamn Hillary over Trump.
[QUOTE=Llamaguy;51780579]I'll leave it up to medical professionals and himself to determine if he's too old.[/QUOTE] [media]https://twitter.com/zaidjilani/status/810717312294809600[/media]
[QUOTE=Swiket;51781945][media]https://twitter.com/zaidjilani/status/810717312294809600[/media][/QUOTE] Maybe it's for his grandkids?
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;51781993]Maybe it's for his grandkids?[/QUOTE] nah son [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv58UKls95k[/media]
Watching Bernie in general just makes me sad. He was a valid voice for hope, change and progress, but with actual qualifications, not just meaningless rhetoric. Yet he was accused of being a moronic socialist with no rationality in spite of his decades-long political career, in favour of the guy who proudly admits to having no political knowledge or experience whatsoever. It makes absolutely no sense.
[QUOTE=Jamsponge;51782098]Watching Bernie in general just makes me sad. He was a valid voice for hope, change and progress, but with actual qualifications, not just meaningless rhetoric. Yet he was accused of being a moronic socialist with no rationality in spite of his decades-long political career, in favour of the guy who proudly admits to having no political knowledge or experience whatsoever. It makes absolutely no sense.[/QUOTE] Always bet on huge portions of America to be idiots.
[QUOTE=Jamsponge;51782098]Watching Bernie in general just makes me sad. He was a valid voice for hope, change and progress, but with actual qualifications, not just meaningless rhetoric. Yet he was accused of being a moronic socialist with no rationality in spite of his decades-long political career, in favour of the guy who proudly admits to having no political knowledge or experience whatsoever. It makes absolutely no sense.[/QUOTE] Lots of people are single issue voters, lots of people vote religiously, and lots of people are idiots.
[QUOTE=TheHydra;51782009]nah son [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv58UKls95k[/media][/QUOTE] big fundamental!!!
[QUOTE=Naught;51781813]yea, bernie should have just given up/gone against hillary and let trump take the presidency extremely easily. Mate, politics doesn't work like that.[/QUOTE] Trump won and was talking shit the entire time, I disagree
[QUOTE=zerglingv2;51782268]Trump won and was talking shit the entire time, I disagree[/QUOTE] those are very much different situations. trump didn't lose the primaries and go out crying.
I've said this before, but I would absolutely love a ticket of Bernie/Tulsi, with a more equal coverage between the two of them and a completely open message that voters are voting for both of them, because Bernie is getting old and there would be a decent chance of him having to bow out leaving Tulsi as President.
[QUOTE=Naught;51782277]those are very much different situations. trump didn't lose the primaries and go out crying.[/QUOTE] Yea, but Bernie did.
[QUOTE=TheHydra;51782009]nah son [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv58UKls95k[/media][/QUOTE] i love how this video clearly confirms that his forearms are permanently locked into a T-Rex like position
[QUOTE=Llamaguy;51780579]I'll leave it up to medical professionals and himself to determine if he's too old.[/QUOTE] Isn't Zonesylvania a medical professional? :v:
[QUOTE=EcksDee;51782122]Always bet on huge portions of America to be idiots.[/QUOTE] I feel like I don't trust an America that was stupid enough to elect Trump to not do something that stupid again.
[QUOTE=chumchum;51782780]Isn't Zonesylvania a medical professional? :v:[/QUOTE] Has he examined Bernie?
Bernie should work on starting a new party to replace the DNC.
I have to wonder how the election would have went if Hillary picked Sanders as her VP.
[QUOTE=Spetsnaz95;51780542]Save America, and the world, in 2020, Bernie.[/QUOTE] At this point he might rather be hands-off and have someone else in the progressive movement run. He's on a lot of peoples bad sides in the Democratic Party after Bernie-Or-Busters gamethrew in the swing-states.
[QUOTE=zerglingv2;51781640]I wouldn't want someone who bent the knee to the person who stole the nomination from him[/QUOTE] This is such a dumb narratiive, completely alienating democrats would've only hurt Bernie He knew he had no chance of winning that year after he screwed in the primaries, running out of pride would've hurt his cause massively, especially because everyone would blame him for Hillary's loss. Instead he decided he could pressure Hillary to make his ideas a huge part of her platform to appease his voters into voting for her. Politics isn't a high school drama, you don't burn bridges when you get screwed. You make concessions since you serve the people, not your ego.
[QUOTE=SelfishDragon;51783348] Politics isn't a high school drama, you don't burn bridges when you get screwed. You make concessions since you serve the people, not your ego.[/QUOTE] That's not what i'm seeing from the administration tbh.
[QUOTE=SelfishDragon;51783348]This is such a dumb narratiive, completely alienating democrats would've only hurt Bernie He knew he had no chance of winning that year after he screwed in the primaries, running out of pride would've hurt his cause massively, especially because everyone would blame him for Hillary's loss. Instead he decided he could pressure Hillary to make his ideas a huge part of her platform to appease his voters into voting for her. Politics isn't a high school drama, you don't burn bridges when you get screwed. You make concessions since you serve the people, not your ego.[/QUOTE] Not only that, but early on he pledged to support the eventual winner of the democratic primary. He isn't one to go back on his word.
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;51780569]I want him to do his best too, but he's just too old. It's best he passes the torch to a sensible Democrat candidate, and does his best to get them into the Oval Office in the next elections. For, if Trump wins again, the damage will never be undone in our lifetimes.[/QUOTE] Bernie has lasted this long purely out of spite, I doubt he'll let a little thing like age stop him now. :v:
[QUOTE=EskillV2;51783403]That's not what i'm seeing from the administration tbh.[/QUOTE] Politics isn't [I]ordinarily[/I] a high school drama, but the people don't [I]ordinarily[/I] elect a 70-year-old who acts like a spoiled 8-year-old. 2016 seems to have been the year of "fuck everything, let's break it" in the West. Which works out conveniently for Putin, whether or not he had a hand in any of it.
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;51783975]Not really realistically possible He will die before that party gets a single congress seat [editline]6th February 2017[/editline] God bless the founding fathers and their eternal wisdom[/QUOTE] Founding fathers actually said people should reject a party system. [editline]6th February 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=certified;51783276]At this point he might rather be hands-off and have someone else in the progressive movement run. He's on a lot of peoples bad sides in the Democratic Party after Bernie-Or-Busters gamethrew in the swing-states.[/QUOTE] Really? Maybe if Hillary was actually a decent candidate, we wouldn't have Bernie or Buster's. If you read Bernie's book, the literal reason he ran was because nobody else was going to stand for progressive ideals, not even Clinton.
[QUOTE=Lollipoopdeck;51780771]NOW they give sanders air time[/QUOTE] He's "safe" now, because giving him air time isn't challenging Clinton's presidential chances.
I think leftism has the habit of wanting the perfectly most leftist candidate. I wish they would work with what we got instead of what they wanted, maybe we wouldn't have Trump.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;51784076]I think leftism has the habit of wanting the perfectly most leftist candidate. I wish they would work with what we got instead of what they wanted, maybe we wouldn't have Trump.[/QUOTE] "Ugh, I have to choose between a solid piece of shit and putrid diarrhea. I guess I'll just go with the solid piece of shit."
[QUOTE=Llamaguy;51784082]"Ugh, I have to choose between a solid piece of shit and putrid diarrhea. I guess I'll just go with the solid piece of shit."[/QUOTE] See I don't think Trump and Clinton were in any way equal.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;51784097]See I don't think Trump and Clinton were in any way equal.[/QUOTE] But they were both terrible candidates. It's the people's right to choose the right candidate for them. If they want the most sterling candidate, or the human equivalent of a dumpster fire, that's their right.
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