I think Clinton was a good candidate who ran a terrible campaign. And trump ran a slightly less terrible one.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;51784105]I think Clinton was a good candidate who ran a terrible campaign. And trump ran a slightly less terrible one.[/QUOTE]
I can agree that she ran a terrible campaign.
But as a candidate, she was damaged goods.
Emails, Benghazi, corporate speeches, terrible decisions as Secretary of state, and rumors about her health and well-being were all attack vectors the DNC knew about, but still chose to ran with her. I'm in no way supporting these vectors, but they were vectors nonetheless.
She wanted the TPP, she didn't want tuition free public schools and universities, didn't want free health care. She was untrustworthy, robotic, and gave off a fake vibe (I'm only doing this for the votes). It took Sanders to pull her further to something the progressive movement would vote for in the G.E.
If it wasn't for Sanders, she likely would've lost in a much worse fashion.
Also, friendly reminder:
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[QUOTE=Jamsponge;51782098]Watching Bernie in general just makes me sad. He was a valid voice for hope, change and progress, but with actual qualifications, not just meaningless rhetoric. Yet he was accused of being a moronic socialist with no rationality in spite of his decades-long political career, in favour of the guy who proudly admits to having no political knowledge or experience whatsoever.
It makes absolutely no sense.[/QUOTE]
I honestly think that if Hillary hadn't juked the nomination from him, he would have had muuuuch much better chances against Trump. People were actually passionate about Bernie in a way that Hillary just couldn't get.
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[QUOTE=Radical_ed;51783121]Bernie should work on starting a new party to replace the DNC.[/QUOTE]
I agree, but I don't care who does it as long as they cut it out with this alienating identity politics BS. At this point I'd happy scrap the DNC and join a new liberal party that has a more practical no nonses transparent approach and welcomes moderates and a healthy amount of compromise
...but thats such a pipe dream isnt it
The quote reminds me of the Ishtar trailer. :downs:
"These men are [I]pawwwwns.[/I]"
[QUOTE=SelfishDragon;51783348]This is such a dumb narratiive, completely alienating democrats would've only hurt Bernie
He knew he had no chance of winning that year after he screwed in the primaries, running out of pride would've hurt his cause massively, especially because everyone would blame him for Hillary's loss. Instead he decided he could pressure Hillary to make his ideas a huge part of her platform to appease his voters into voting for her.
Politics isn't a high school drama, you don't burn bridges when you get screwed. You make concessions since you serve the people, not your ego.[/QUOTE]
The democrats alienated his supporters enough on their own, they even got celebrities to do it for them.
[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;51781004]I bet Trump is just a robot being controlled by a cochroach.[/QUOTE]
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By this guy
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