Leslie Jones Website Goes Offline After Massive Hack, Personal Info Leaked - Polidicks

[QUOTE=WillerinV1.02;50942441]okay but the icloud didn't get hacked her personal website did[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Sumap;50942138]From the article it doesn't sound like she was hosting her docs on the website itself, so it's likely that she had a self hosted email account on it and that was used to get to whatever cloud storage she had the images on. Or she just used the same password for everything. [URL="http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2016/08/24/leslie-jones-website-down-after-hack/89261232/"]Yeah the photos are from her iCloud, not the website[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WillerinV1.02;50942441]okay but the icloud didn't get hacked her personal website did[/QUOTE] But her iCloud [b]was hacked though[/b]: [quote]The photos posted to her site, JustLeslie.com, are alleged to have been stolen from her iCloud account.[/quote]

If I kept a million dollars in a shoe box on my shelf, and you broke into my house to steal that, you as a thief are in the wrong, you broke the law. There's no way I'm guilty for your actions. However, my stupidity in putting my money in a shoebox on a shelf [B]is[/B] my fault.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50942458].[/QUOTE] if you put a million dollars into a bank and somebody guesses your pin is it your fault?

[QUOTE=krutomisi;50942450][/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Fangz;50942452]But her iCloud [b]was hacked though[/b]:[/QUOTE] my bad guys, totally bad reading on my behalf

[QUOTE=krutomisi;50942466]if you put a million dollars into a bank and somebody guesses your pin is it your fault?[/QUOTE] Holy shit you're determined to make [B]everything[/B] victim blaming. I guess you're not responsible for your own actions ever. I'm not blaming her dude. Maybe take your shit down a notch.

[QUOTE=krutomisi;50942466]if you put a million dollars into a bank and somebody guesses your pin is it your fault?[/QUOTE] the difference is that a shoebox isnt FDIC insured. your analogy is bad and wrong. try again. i hope i dont have to literally spell this out for you, but im betting you wont get it, and i'm going to have to paint you a picture.

what does the FDIC have to do with nudes I just didn't like the analogy because they were technically password protected :v:

[QUOTE=krutomisi;50942490]what does the FDIC have to do with nudes I just didn't like the analogy :V[/QUOTE] yeah, i do have to paint it out for you. if you put your money in a shoe box, youre ignoring the protections of putting your money in a safe place -- the bank. the bank is a safe place for your money because it is legally protected by whatever security the bank provides, on top of being insured by the US government. if you ignore all of that, and put your money in the shoebox anyway, only to have it stolen by a thief that breaks into your house -- while the thief is in the wrong for breaking into your house, youre also an idiot for putting the money in the shoebox. replace money with nudes/driver's license/passport, and shoebox with web server.

Some people take films super seriously, like fucking christ its a bad film but time to get over it

[QUOTE=Anti Christ;50942500]replace money with nudes/driver's license/passport, and shoebox with web server.[/QUOTE] yea real slick editing the post after I responded if the shoebox is a webserver can the bank be iCloud and Apple be the FDIC? do you understand my point now? [editline]24th August 2016[/editline] and iMessage a debit card?

[QUOTE=krutomisi;50942539]yea real slick editing the post after I responded if the shoebox is a webserver can the bank be iCloud and Apple be the FDIC? do you understand my point now?[/QUOTE] i didn't edit the post. i replied to your post before you edited it. there's no use in lying because we both know what happened lol and no, iCloud is not the equivalent of a bank. they do not offer a guarantee to give you back everything you lose, should someone break into your account. in fact, it's a very common security advisory to NOT store anything you wouldn't want to lose in the cloud (unless you encrypt it, and keep the key off the cloud). there is no legal recourse for you to follow, should someone break into your iCloud account. remember the fappening? did any of those celebrities get their nudes unleaked? no? that's my point. your bank gets broken into, the government will literally give you your lost money back (up to a certain amount, $250,000). apple just says "tough shit", or in reality, nothing at all. iCloud is just a shoebox in somebody else's house, with a slightly more expensive lock on the door.

Like jesus fucking christ I'm not saying she's to blame. I'm not saying that the thief is guiltless. You know very well what I am saying and you're choosing to ignore it for whatever fucking reason you have in your mind. I am saying flat out that your actions are your actions and if you leave things where people can get them, that's on you, it's not your fault that they took them, but to act like your actions have no consequence while the other parties do is fucking retarded. Everyone is a person, everyone performs actions, and all of those actions are capable of being criticized or thought about. If you choose to poorly protect something by putting it in a place notorious for being hacked(iCloud), that part of the series of events is [B]on you[/B]. The actual theft of that is on the thief. They're the real bad guy. I am not fucking victim blaming by saying that the person who is harmed in this situation also has their own responsibilities. If this triggers you or bothers you, you're just not understanding what I'm saying.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50942609]If this triggers you or bothers you, you're just not understanding what I'm saying.[/QUOTE] I agree with the premise of the analogy I just didn't like the shelf part please don't take it so personally [editline]24th August 2016[/editline] think the real solution here is we need an FDICPIC

[QUOTE=krutomisi;50942490]what does the FDIC have to do with nudes I just didn't like the analogy because they were technically password protected :v:[/QUOTE] Because you chose a bad analogy and it in turn makes your argument fall apart. Nobody is victim blaming her for having her shit hacked, just pointing out the stupidity of putting such sensitive material in such easily compromised systems, especially after the dozens of leaks related to celebrities in the past few years. [editline]24th August 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=krutomisi;50942621]I agree with the premise of the analogy I just didn't like the shelf part please don't take it so personally [editline]24th August 2016[/editline] think the real solution here is we need an FDICPIC[/QUOTE] What? He made a perfectly apt analogy and you're getting pissy over it because you dont like that he used that specific analogy? The fuck? [editline]24th August 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=carcarcargo;50942506]Some people take films super seriously, like fucking christ its a bad film but time to get over it[/QUOTE] While i dont agree with these actions i think its less the quality of the film itself and moreso "retribution" for all the underhanded scummy shit the cast and director were doing to quell any and all criticisms of it, as well as certain double standards in regards to that Twitter fiasco and things Leslie has said. Probably, anyway. They pissed a lot of people off with that shit. Again, not that i agree in any way with whats going on (this is awful), but i dont think its just the film itself that people are mad enough about to do this kind of thing.

[QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;50942161]It is super fucked up. And so is all the victim blaming.[/QUOTE] If someone runs across the highway and gets hit by a car I still say "why the fuck did he thing running across a highway was a good idea?" I'm sympathetic and I agree that it's really shitty that they released something like her fucking [I]drivers license[/I], but I'm also logical and realize it was a shit idea to leave it up there in the first place.

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;50942506]Some people take films super seriously, like fucking christ its a bad film but time to get over it[/QUOTE] It's a lot more likely that it was over her deplorable, bait-devouring behavior on Twitter more than over the film. Nobody actually gave a shit about the film and the entire narrative that there was any form of sizable, violent movement [I]against[/I] it was fabricated by marketing and PR. The amount of people who actually left negative comments, or even disliked the trailer on youtube via the rating system, are a microscopical fraction of the quantity of people who watched the trailer. Meanwhile Leslie Jones was going on a twitter PR rampage calling people racist while also being incredibly racist herself. She ate bait like no one's business and became a laughing stock extremely quickly.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;50942907]It's a lot more likely that it was over her deplorable, bait-devouring behavior on Twitter more than over the film. Nobody actually gave a shit about the film and the entire narrative that there was any form of sizable, violent movement [I]against[/I] it was fabricated by marketing and PR. The amount of people who actually left negative comments, or even disliked the trailer on youtube via the rating system, are a microscopical fraction of the quantity of people who watched the trailer. Meanwhile Leslie Jones was going on a twitter PR rampage calling people racist while also being incredibly racist herself. She ate bait like no one's business and became a laughing stock extremely quickly.[/QUOTE] how do you know it's a microscopic fraction? did you get the numbers from somewhere? also love how you're justifying this like she somehow deserved to have this happen to her. no one gave a shit about what she said until this movie came out and everyone got their red-pill boner in a knot.

[QUOTE=Foda;50942953]how do you know it's a microscopic fraction? did you get the numbers from somewhere?[/QUOTE] Uh... The youtube videos viewcount to comment count and then how many of those comments were inflammatory? Simple math? A calculator? I recommend the RedLetterMedia Scientist Man video on the movie, it actually goes over the math in it for you. Not even counting the comments Sony deliberately deleted to keep the narrative of the sexist racists alive. [QUOTE=Foda;50942953]also love how you're justifying this like she somehow deserved to have this happen to her. no one gave a shit about what she said until this movie came out and everyone got their red-pill boner in a knot.[/QUOTE] Dude what the fuck, nobody is saying that. Stop putting words in other peopls mouths. She got into the spotlight via the movie and was acting like a piece of shit tool which pissed people off, and might've been the reason behind this, thats all he's saying, nobody here is saying this is even remotely okay or justified. [editline]24th August 2016[/editline] Its like you're looking for an excuse to attack people.

[QUOTE=Foda;50942953][B]how do you know it's a microscopic fraction? did you get the numbers from somewhere?[/B] also love how you're justifying this like she somehow deserved to have this happen to her. no one gave a shit about what she said until this movie came out and everyone got their red-pill boner in a knot.[/QUOTE] My primary source is the [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3ugHP-yZXw]trailer itself[/url] uploaded on youtube, which is what started the whole "men hate the new ghostbusters" PR stunt on social media - along with the readily available viewcount, ratings bar and comments which you can sample yourself if you want to make your own statistics. Here's my secondary source. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWROBiX1eSc[/media] Do I also have to explain what the difference between a Primary and a Secondary source is or are you going to be able to handle this whole research thing ? As for the second part, I'm not justifying shit, I'm explaining what happened. Leslie Jones was known for being more than temperamental and very dubious on her Twitter account since before any of the "backlash" around the movie begun. The other thread about her twitter meltdown (I'll try to fetch it in the bowels of SH for you) has plenty of examples of her being terrible before any of this happened. Milo Yannopoowhatever at some point made a target out of her and trolls with time to waste followed suit when she started to lose her temper (which happened very quickly). She went ballistic and only acted worse and worse until she finally called it quits or someone told her to call quits and she bailed out of the shithole that is Twitter. A lot of people involved in that clusterfuck were idiots, from the people taking the time to forge fake tweets for her to get angry at to Milo Yaranakapopulos to Leslie Jones herself. It's however easy to see why trolls went after her considering how easy of a target she turned out to be. You can understand and explain a situation without cornering yourself into absolute, without justifying let alone [I]agreeing[/I] with what happened. Claiming the people involved were doing so because they were sexist red-pillers is uneducated and ignores large parts of the equation, notably the part where trolls who do those things will target [I]anyone[/I] who's currently in the public spotlight and who's dumb enough to react.

Scenario: I have my passport in a shoe box (digital file). I pay my neighbor store that shoe box in his backyard on a table (website hosted by someone). He implies it is safe there. The gate to his backyard is "locked" by a simple cable tie holding it closed (shitty security, or easily guessed password). A thief easily cuts the cable tie (hacks in), finds the shoe box while looking for other valuables (downloads the info from the server), and steals it. The thief is an asshole and primarily at blame, however: I'm an idiot for putting my passport under someone else's care who can't secure his web-server, when it shouldn't even be there in the first place because it has no reason to be outside my person/house; My agent is a huge idiot for not making sure I was using proper security for my stuff because as a public figure I'm high priority for hacks/leaks, My neighbor is a dolt who needs to properly secure his house and I'm never going to trust him again. Seriously, there's no reason your passport should be stored on a web server. Why would you even have a digital copy of that? I'm not even sure if she herself would have put that there because I doubt she knows enough about servers to do that judging by various things she's said. Whoever she paid for that personal website is either not good at his job or the victim of a sophisticated hack, either way he's gonna be in hot water. The nude photos being stolen from iCloud is a shame because either her password was easily guessed or she got phished, and basic password security is not common sense sadly. I personally blame her agency for not keeping her informed about these kinds of vulnerabilities and not making sure she had a tough password/spam filter.

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;50942506]Some people take films super seriously, like fucking christ its a bad film but time to get over it[/QUOTE] People were mad at her twitter flipout, not her being in the film

She is not getting targeted because she was in a bad movie. She is getting targeted because she is provovative and hypocritical on twitter. Not saying she deserves this but it's not surprising to me.

[QUOTE=usaokay;50943525]Keep in mind that this person is an actor. She probably face a shitload of mean comments everyday that the annoyances built up to a meltdown. Who are we to say she's a total asshole? Everyone has one of those days where we seem like a jerk to others. We're only human. If some fucker can't accept that and go out of their way to hack into a person's life based on just something they disagree with, then I find it sad.[/QUOTE] Based on other things she's said, she seems like a pretty big jerk. Not that that does anything to justify this hack.

This has gone beyond the realms of being a dick to her for being in a bad movie, nobody deserves this shit at all Milo can take some of the blame for being the gateway drug these people needed to even think about doing this shit

[QUOTE=usaokay;50943525]Keep in mind that this person is an actor. She probably face a shitload of mean comments everyday that the annoyances built up to a meltdown. Who are we to say she's a total asshole? Everyone has one of those days where we seem like a jerk to others. We're only human.[/QUOTE] Because she's consistently been an asshole long before the meltdown?

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;50943546]Milo can take some of the blame for being the gateway drug these people needed to even think about doing this shit[/QUOTE] ??? Milo didn't advocate for this nor did he do it so he's not in any way to blame. Leslie herself is more to blame for this than Milo for putting this stuff in vulnerable locations if you really want to point fingers. Also Icloud didn't even get hacked with the Fappening, the people involved fell for phishing emails. I'm wondering if this might've been something similar?

An unlocked door or in this case loose security isn't an excuse for accessing something you don't own.

[QUOTE=Pepsi-cola;50943600]An unlocked door or in this case loose security isn't an excuse for accessing something you don't own.[/QUOTE] No but leaving your door unlocked, going to a low-income area, and pissing off everybody there while shouting "I LIVE AT XXX" makes you a dumbass even if it's not really your fault.

[QUOTE=krutomisi;50942427]re: why would you put nudes on the internet??? a lot of this stuff happens automagically and if you send nudes to somebody (normally the purpose) guess where iCloud keeps them (hint its in the name)[/QUOTE] Solution: don't send nudes in the first place. Alternatively, disable iCloud. Better yet, both. Really not complicated, but a ton of celebrities (and ordinary people, for that matter) seem to have either an immensely difficult time understanding this, or they just think that they're immune somehow and nothing will happen so they take stupid risks. Perhaps it's a matter of both. But then something like The Fappening occurs, or somebody's boyfriend or girlfriend gets pissy and decides to use the stuff they sent against them, etc., and they have to learn this the hard way when it could be avoided altogether by simply exercising basic caution and having some self-restraint. If you don't want people knowing about it, then don't be dumb enough to do shit like this. Now having said that, it was wrong for them to hack her. It is worth pointing out however that it is also her responsibility to exercise better judgement and make more intelligent decisions, which she did not do. If you don't want people knowing about it (or at least, if you want to minimize the chances), don't involve the Internet. Ever. If you don't care though, then share away/take risks by all means; that's your business. There's a difference between making a mistake and this. This is just fucking stupid.