Leslie Jones Website Goes Offline After Massive Hack, Personal Info Leaked - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Govna;50943637]Solution: don't send nudes in the first place. [/quote] What a reasonable stance grounded in reality [QUOTE] a ton of celebrities (and ordinary people, for that matter) seem to have either an immensely difficult time understanding this, or they just think that they're immune somehow and nothing will happen so they take stupid risks.[/QUOTE] Having nude photos is not taking a stupid risk. 99.9999% of people are not hacked. [QUOTE] exercising basic caution and having some self-restraint.[/QUOTE] Seriously, are you a pastor or something? You know that almost EVERYBODY who's sexually active sends/has nude photos in some capacity, right? [QUOTE] If you don't want people knowing about it, then don't be dumb enough to do shit like this.[/QUOTE] Stupid shit like what, exactly? taking nude photos? [QUOTE]It is worth pointing out however that it is also her responsibility to exercise better judgement and make more intelligent decisions, which she did not do. If you don't want people knowing about it (or at least, if you want to minimize the chances), [B]don't involve the Internet. Ever.[/B] [/QUOTE] It's not like she posted them publicly. You don't want people to trust "the internet" with stuff like this? If you have EVER made a purchase online, you've risked more than she did by having nudes on icloud. What, "the internet" can be trusted with bank info and CC numbers, but not nudity on secure services? [QUOTE] There's a difference between making a mistake and this. This is just fucking stupid.[/QUOTE] The stupid thing was her baiting folks and having 0 real security on her website, not her decision to have nude photos.

What's up with the people going to huge lengths and crafting elaborate analogies to still blame her & find her at fault? She's a 48 year old comedian, almost no average person - let alone her - would know anything about modern cybersecurity. They also seem to follow any news story about her with "she kinda deserved it." Yeah, it was probably a bad idea to have all that information on her website, but why can't you say "that sucks" and move on instead of making absurd logical stretches like "well you see, its like a neighbor's locked shoebox with a cable tie and also she's an asshole - thus, it's her fault". You're entitled to your opinion of her, but when you quickly jump to absurd conclusions like "welp, she shouldn't have used iCloud" to find a way to place the blame on her instead of the attackers, it might be a sign you're taking a bad movie too personally.

[QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;50942161]It is super fucked up. And so is all the victim blaming.[/QUOTE] Person does stupid thing. Person now faces consequences due to the stupid thing. Oh no we better stop victim blaming. Personal accountability isn't something we should emphasize right?

[QUOTE=TurtleeyFP;50943716]What's up with the people going to huge lengths and crafting elaborate analogies to still blame her & find her at fault? She's a 48 year old comedian, almost no average person - let alone her - would know anything about modern cybersecurity. They also seem to follow any news story about her with "she kinda deserved it." Yeah, it was probably a bad idea to have all that information on her website, but why can't you say "that sucks" and move on instead of making absurd logical stretches like "well you see, its like a neighbor's locked shoebox with a cable tie and also she's an asshole - thus, it's her fault". You're entitled to your opinion of her, but when you quickly jump to absurd conclusions like "welp, she shouldn't have used iCloud" to find a way to place the blame on her instead of the attackers, it might be a sign you're taking a bad movie too personally.[/QUOTE] You know you could atleast read what people are saying and consider their logic for more than a second before lambasting them.

Considering the huge leak in the past with the Fappening, you would think people would be more mindful with what they put on iCloud

I can only imagine that those responsible for the hack broke out in a fit of laughter upon finding the passport, drivers license and nude pictures somehow connected to her website.

I may or may not have seen the leaked pictures. :suicide: Guess time will tell how this whole shitshow evolves. Also, wtf is with all the "b-but stop victim blaming" going on around here? Wow. Bashing people for having enough common sense to point out that, despite being hacked, going as far as to store something so private as nudies on your own website was mind-blowingly stupid on her part? Please. It's one thing to dismiss it as "eh, she's 49 years old, she's not tech savvy, cut her some slack", but even then, what makes you think that storing something so personal as nude pics on "The Cloud" (in this case, somewhere deep down her website) was a reasonable idea to begin with? Never change, FP.

[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;50943878]Also, wtf is with all the "b-but stop victim blaming" going on around here? Wow. Bashing people for having enough common sense to point out that, despite being hacked, going as far as to store something so private as nudies on your own website was mind-blowingly stupid on her part? Please. It's one thing to dismiss it as "eh, she's 49 years old, she's not tech savvy, cut her some slack", but even then, what makes you think that storing something so personal as nude pics on "The Cloud" (in this case, somewhere deep down her website) was a reasonable idea to begin with? [/QUOTE] I don't think we have the right to call her stupid for storing her things however she wants to, this isn't Hillary Clinton's Email server. We wouldn't call a rape victim stupid for being attractive and not taking self defence classes. I just don't think there's anyway you could defend the hacker for putting her nudes out there.

[QUOTE=Pepsi-cola;50943909]I don't think we have the right to call her stupid for storing her things however she wants to, this isn't Hillary Clinton's Email server. We wouldn't call a rape victim stupid for being attractive and not taking self defence classes. I just don't think there's anyway you could defend the hacker for putting her nudes out there.[/QUOTE] It's pretty straightforward - someone does something stupid, gets called "stupid". Simple as that. I don't see, however, how I'm [I]defending[/I] the hacker, what kind of mental gymnastics is that? [editline]25th August 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=BazzBerry;50943806]I can only imagine that those responsible for the hack broke out in a fit of laughter upon finding the passport, drivers license and nude pictures somehow connected to her website.[/QUOTE] In a way, I can see how it could be convenient for her - ease of access to some of her personal info in case she needs it, etc. Not sure if it'd be safer than using something like iCloud, for instance. But the nudies? That dude must have jumped out of his seat and yelled "oh shit jackpot".

[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;50943926] I don't see, however, how I'm [I]defending[/I] the hacker, what kind of mental gymnastics is that? [/QUOTE] Was kind of implied when all you've posted so far is attacks on her choice of where she stored her data.

[QUOTE=Pepsi-cola;50943955]Was kind of implied when all you've posted so far is attacks on her choice of where she stored her data.[/QUOTE] No, it wasnt implied, you're giving those posts that implication. Stop that. Its not nice.

[QUOTE=Pepsi-cola;50943955]Was kind of implied when all you've posted so far is attacks on her choice of where she stored her data.[/QUOTE] No need to jump to conclusions, I don't condone nor condemn hacking. I'm completely indifferent, now that you're wondering. I do, however, think that it was pretty naïve and clueless on her part to store such personal material -I'm just talking about the nudes here, not focusing on the rest of her documents- on her personal webpage. Makes me wonder where it's hosted, and what kind of security it had. Like I mentioned before, I'm not aware of any benefits of using that, over using a service leaps and bounds more secure like iCloud... specially because you can hold Apple accountable if there's a security breach.

How come people unanimously got mad at Sony storing passwords and credit card info in plaintext, but when someone stores private and sensitive data on shitty security, it's victim blaming?

[QUOTE=Tetsmega;50944827]How come people unanimously got mad at Sony storing passwords and credit card info in plaintext, but when someone stores private and sensitive data on shitty security, it's victim blaming?[/QUOTE] who is victim blaming?

[QUOTE=Tetsmega;50944827]How come people unanimously got mad at Sony storing passwords and credit card info in plaintext, but when someone stores private and sensitive data on shitty security, it's victim blaming?[/QUOTE] Because it's a female involved in an SJW e-debate so most people clam up and start doing backflips to explain obvious facts that everybody already understands but just wouldn't do to say. For example, it's her own dumb ass fault for putting sensitive information on a leaky service with a bad history. Everyone knows this. Just say it and stop caring what the ridiculous people are screaming at you from the background.

[QUOTE=TurtleeyFP;50943716]What's up with the people going to huge lengths and crafting elaborate analogies to still blame her & find her at fault? She's a 48 year old comedian, almost no average person - let alone her - would know anything about modern cybersecurity. They also seem to follow any news story about her with "she kinda deserved it." Yeah, it was probably a bad idea to have all that information on her website, but why can't you say "that sucks" and move on instead of making absurd logical stretches like "well you see, its like a neighbor's locked shoebox with a cable tie and also she's an asshole - thus, it's her fault". You're entitled to your opinion of her, but when you quickly jump to absurd conclusions like "welp, she shouldn't have used iCloud" to find a way to place the blame on her instead of the attackers, it might be a sign you're taking a bad movie too personally.[/QUOTE] To add to this as a rule of thumb: If they're over 40 years old in this day and age, these people will more than likely not get today's technology, and will have a more difficult time understanding it than we will since most of us were born in the late 80's to 90's and have been more accustomed to the growing tech changes. Having parents in their 50's, I can't catch a break without one of them looking mad at a wireless laptop saying "Why isn't my document printing?!" Everything nowadays is run by a computer in some form, or done from far away, and we have a better knack for it than most people think. Yes its dumb to put up her nudes in the cloud along with pretty much most of her private documents, but you'd think that there would be a job or a volunteer spot to help middle age celebs not do something crazy like this on the internet.

[QUOTE=TurtleeyFP;50943716]What's up with the people going to huge lengths and crafting elaborate analogies to still blame her & find her at fault? She's a 48 year old comedian, almost no average person - let alone her - would know anything about modern cybersecurity. They also seem to follow any news story about her with "she kinda deserved it." Yeah, it was probably a bad idea to have all that information on her website, but why can't you say "that sucks" and move on instead of making absurd logical stretches like "well you see, its like a neighbor's locked shoebox with a cable tie and also she's an asshole - thus, it's her fault". You're entitled to your opinion of her, but when you quickly jump to absurd conclusions like "welp, she shouldn't have used iCloud" to find a way to place the blame on her instead of the attackers, it might be a sign you're taking a bad movie too personally.[/QUOTE] Nice to see you whole sale ignore entire posts to declare shit from your high chair. No one(not me at least) is blaming her. I'm sorry YOU can't see that.

[QUOTE=DELL;50942093]How the hell is someone stupid enough to put any government paperwork or ID up online? Someone should start a security 101 for what not to do on the internet.[/QUOTE] A lot of websites with a lot of fraud+money laundering prevention require it. For example a lot of online gambling sites require you to provide ID and Bank statement before processing Withdrawals. The place I work has hundreds of thousands of sensitive documents stored. We censor certain parts of certain documents, like the middle numbers on a debit/credit card, but with stuff like IDs and Bank statements and Proof of Address it's all there. I also think that if you want to change your name on Facebook, it sometimes asks you to provide official proof of name change

[QUOTE=TurtleeyFP;50943716]What's up with the people going to huge lengths and crafting elaborate analogies to still blame her & find her at fault? She's a 48 year old comedian, almost no average person - let alone her - would know anything about modern cybersecurity. They also seem to follow any news story about her with "she kinda deserved it." Yeah, it was probably a bad idea to have all that information on her website, but why can't you say "that sucks" and move on instead of making absurd logical stretches like "well you see, its like a neighbor's locked shoebox with a cable tie and also she's an asshole - thus, it's her fault". You're entitled to your opinion of her, but when you quickly jump to absurd conclusions like "welp, she shouldn't have used iCloud" to find a way to place the blame on her instead of the attackers, it might be a sign you're taking a bad movie too personally.[/QUOTE] i have no opinion on her because i have not followed her. i have not seen the movie, nor do i use twitter. i saw that there was some drama on twitter with her, but i didn't pay attention to it because i don't use that service. here are the facts: she made a bad decision and she has had her personal information leaked as a result. i'm not blaming her or condoning it, but the undeniable truth is that she is currently facing the consequences to her poor decisions. ignorance is not an excuse to do something dumb, and in fact, in this case it is the motivating factor. and if you think it's an absurd logical stretch to compare storing your personal belongings in someone else's house and storing your personal information in somebody else's computer, well, i don't know what to say to you. my personal opinion: in today's world, where we are more and more connected, it is on the individual user to learn how to protect themselves online. if you don't want to make the effort to protect yourself, you shouldn't be using the technology, because then you're just leaving yourself vulnerable. that is a dumb action, and i have no pity for somebody that doesn't make even the slightest effort to protect themselves. but no, i just hate her because 'hurr that movie was bad'. good job writing off everything i think, because you want a convenient way to ignore me. [editline]25th August 2016[/editline] i can't help but think that if locks weren't invented until this year, there would be 40+ year olds that refuse to use them, and act like it's not their fault when somebody breaks into their house and steals everything they own. sometimes, when something bad happens to you, it is in fact your fault. that doesn't make it right, that doesn't mean you deserve it. but sometimes, just sometimes, if you make better decisions, bad things won't happen to you as often. if my facepunch password was 'password123', who's fault is it when somebody guesses my password and shitposts, leading to my permaban?

[QUOTE=strayebyrd;50947455]A lot of websites with a lot of fraud+money laundering prevention require it. For example a lot of online gambling sites require you to provide ID and Bank statement before processing Withdrawals. The place I work has hundreds of thousands of sensitive documents stored. We censor certain parts of certain documents, like the middle numbers on a debit/credit card, but with stuff like IDs and Bank statements and Proof of Address it's all there. I also think that if you want to change your name on Facebook, it sometimes asks you to provide official proof of name change[/QUOTE] I'll bet my liver that if it's a good organization that it's all encrypted, though.

[QUOTE=phygon;50948959]I'll bet my liver that if it's a good organization that it's all encrypted, though.[/QUOTE] Oh yeah. But the place I used to work which will remain nameless for reasons that will become obvious, had all the documents in a shared drive that was unencrypted, so all you had to do was get access to the network (which was not hard to do because the IT team was dogshit) and you'd have access to a ridiculous amount of personal information. And they're one of the biggest Igaming Holding companies in the world. They have a [I]lot[/I] of popular brands that are used by a [I]lot[/I] of people They even had all their login details to various Payment Service Providers and Backends on a shared Excel sheet with no password protection People really overestimate the level of information security taken in most companies. Huge ones like Facebook or Ebay or Amazon have it relatively locked down, but most other people use constant shortcuts which really put people's information at risk of theft

[QUOTE=Mio Akiyama;50941791]She's not a smart comedian [url]https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/jul/07/leslie-jones-ghostbusters-us-most-depressed-nation-blame-comedians[/url][/QUOTE] "Leslie Jones is sick of smart comics." Not the best place to start, but I bet she'd get along with Michael Gove.

she did a dumb so she should have her entire life ruined because of it : D Especially if she didn't manage the security of her site, 100% her fault! So she should have her identity stolen, her income trashed, her credit destroyed, because she made a mistake and we should all be OK with it because we dislike her!

[QUOTE=Map in a box;50952678]she did a dumb so she should have her entire life ruined because of it : D Especially if she didn't manage the security of her site, 100% her fault! So she should have her identity stolen, her income trashed, her credit destroyed, because she made a mistake and we should all be OK with it because we dislike her![/QUOTE] Literally nobody said that she deserved it, spare the melodrama. People are only saying that she's slightly at fault for storing stuff like that on her website.

[QUOTE=Map in a box;50952678]she did a dumb so she should have her entire life ruined because of it : D Especially if she didn't manage the security of her site, 100% her fault! So she should have her identity stolen, her income trashed, her credit destroyed, because she made a mistake and we should all be OK with it because we dislike her![/QUOTE] quote one person that said she deserved. go ahead, do it. you literally cant. but i can quote several people accusing others of saying she deserved. what does that say about you?

[QUOTE=Map in a box;50952678]she did a dumb so she should have her entire life ruined because of it : D Especially if she didn't manage the security of her site, 100% her fault! So she should have her identity stolen, her income trashed, her credit destroyed, because she made a mistake and we should all be OK with it because we dislike her![/QUOTE] it's like everyone of you posters has the chronic inability to read without replacing the intent of everyones statements with one you manufacture out of your desire to appear better than everyone else. Is there something wrong with just reading what people actually said [B]before[/B] you replace their words with whatever fucking strawman you deem necessary?

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50947040]Nice to see you whole sale ignore entire posts to declare shit from your high chair. No one(not me at least) is blaming her. I'm sorry YOU can't see that.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50942458]However, my stupidity in putting my money in a shoebox on a shelf [B]is[/B] my fault.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=AaronM202;50943745]You know you could atleast read what people are saying and consider their logic for more than a second before lambasting them.[/QUOTE] I'll bite I guess. I've been reading this same argument since the movie came out, at every mention of the movie or anyone involved. Not quite hopping in uninformed to be a white knight. My thoughts? At this point, 3 months later, it's not an argument based in logic anymore. I'm not accusing anyone personally, but what exactly is the point of coming in every time to remind us "she's a dumb, rude cunt" and "it's still sort of her fault"? The same posters who follow mentions of the movie's budget or ratings like they set up a google alert, who defended Leslie Jones' harassment on twitter by saying "she's the easiest to throw insults at/she started it", they can't expect anyone to believe it's not personal anymore. Unless this just a friendly PSA about securing your passwords, unrelated to Jones at all? I doubt there'd be this much, if any, drawn-out allegories to shift the blame if this happened to any other middle-aged comedians like Louis CK. My thoughts, it's a safe guess to say this dedication is because they have something personal against Jones. And assuming that's true, my argument is that 3 months later it might be time to let it go. If there's another reason behind this, now would be the first I've heard it.

[QUOTE=TurtleeyFP;50953179]K, I'll bite. I've been reading this same argument since the movie came out, at every mention of the movie or anyone involved. Not quite hopping in uninformed to be a white knight. My thoughts? At this point, 3 months later, it's not an argument based in logic anymore. I'm not accusing anyone personally, but what exactly is the point of coming in every time to remind us "she's a dumb, rude cunt" and "it's still sort of her fault"? The same posters who follow mentions of the movie's budget or ratings like they set up a google alert, who defended Leslie Jones' harassment on twitter by saying "she's the easiest to throw insults at/she started it", they can't expect anyone to believe it's not personal anymore. Unless this just a friendly PSA about securing your passwords, unrelated to Jones at all? I doubt there'd be this much, if any, drawn-out allegories to shift the blame if this happened to any other middle-aged comedians like Louis CK. My thoughts, it's a safe guess to say this dedication is because they have something personal against Jones. My argument is, assuming that is true, 3 months later it's time to get over it. If it's not and there's another reason, this would be the first I've heard it.[/QUOTE] So again, you didn't even attempt to read my post, not even remotely because if you did, you'd see there's no where, not a single fucking place, where I remotely insult her. I don't give a fuck about her, she's not important, and I don't care enough to even say she sucks because that's how apathetic I am about her in particular. What I'm not apathetic about is when people go out of their way to ignore personal responsibility to flout some missplaced, mis understood ideology of "No one is responsible for themselves in any context". You bit, but you bit on what? You didn't bite on our posts because you [B]fucking ignored them[/B] again so what did you bite on?

[QUOTE=TurtleeyFP;50953179] My thoughts, it's a safe guess to say this dedication is because they have something personal against Jones. And assuming that's true, my argument is that 3 months later it might be time to let it go. If there's another reason behind this, now would be the first I've heard it.[/QUOTE] Wow you actually sound like a conspiracy theorist. Like really wow. You're taking criticism of bad digital security waaay to personally.

[QUOTE=TurtleeyFP;50953179]I'll bite I guess. I've been reading this same argument since the movie came out, at every mention of the movie or anyone involved. Not quite hopping in uninformed to be a white knight. My thoughts? At this point, 3 months later, it's not an argument based in logic anymore. I'm not accusing anyone personally, but what exactly is the point of coming in every time to remind us "she's a dumb, rude cunt" and "it's still sort of her fault"? The same posters who follow mentions of the movie's budget or ratings like they set up a google alert, who defended Leslie Jones' harassment on twitter by saying "she's the easiest to throw insults at/she started it", they can't expect anyone to believe it's not personal anymore. Unless this just a friendly PSA about securing your passwords, unrelated to Jones at all? I doubt there'd be this much, if any, drawn-out allegories to shift the blame if this happened to any other middle-aged comedians like Louis CK. My thoughts, it's a safe guess to say this dedication is because they have something personal against Jones. And assuming that's true, my argument is that 3 months later it might be time to let it go. If there's another reason behind this, now would be the first I've heard it.[/QUOTE] What are you even going on about? Sure, some people probably have an irrational hate boner for Leslie and the Ghostbusters cast. HumanAbyss and most others in this thread have been seemingly advocating for better personal responsibility regarding cyber security. Suggesting that people maintain good habits regarding passwords and data protection isn't anywhere near victim blaming. If anything, it's potentially saving people from a similar fate. No one can control an irrational hate mob or opportunistic thieves. You can and should safeguard your data for your own benefit. Don't reuse passwords across multiple accounts. Don't use easy to guess passwords. Encrypt sensitive information. Look out for phishing attempts. Far fewer people would have their shit hacked if everybody did these things.