Trump revealed highly classified information to Russian foreign minister and ambassador - Polidicks

I think wanting to see the transcript and taking the word of McMaster over nameless officials is pretty reasonable, man.

[QUOTE=-nesto-;52233590]I think wanting to see the transcript and taking the word of McMaster over nameless officials is pretty reasonable, man.[/QUOTE] mcmaster didn't even fucking contradict the report :V please stop, this is getting too embarrassing

[QUOTE=ThatSwordGuy;52232472]"I get great intel. I have people brief me on great intel every day" This man is fucking retarded[/QUOTE] if he's so retarded then everybody should be a billionaire and the president

[QUOTE=-nesto-;52233590]I think wanting to see the transcript and taking the word of McMaster over nameless officials is pretty reasonable, man.[/QUOTE] I don't, because the transcript could easily reveal and endanger the confidential sources. You simply keep pushing back the burden of proof each time a new milestone is reached.

[QUOTE=Splarg!;52233541]They won't even ditch him to save themselves though. Like seriously, at this point how are they not better off just swapping him out for Pence.[/QUOTE] they have the "hide in your hole and wait for this all to blow over" approach

[QUOTE=Nebukadnezzer;52233595]if he's so retarded then everybody should be a billionaire and the president[/QUOTE] it's almost like everyone isn't born obscenely wealthy [editline]16th May 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Judas;52233604]they have the "hide in your hole and wait for this all to blow over" approach[/QUOTE] what are you talking about, the denial brigade is out en masse maybe they think if they defend daddy don hard enough they'll get spicer's job

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;52233597]I don't, because the transcript could easily reveal and endanger the confidential sources.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=-nesto-;52233523]Well for starters they can post the transcript of the meeting that they possess(with proper redactions ofc).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nebukadnezzer;52233595]if he's so retarded then everybody should be a billionaire and the president[/QUOTE] You've repeated this uninformed nonsense for a long time I doubt any facts will ever effect your view of the man It's been explained to you the advantages this guy had from birth but you ignore it every time.

nesto, if you think the sources are fake, then why would you trust an easily faked transcript

Forget it, Nesto. If you need to believe that every major journalistic entity in the world is lying to preserve your delusions, then don't let me stop you.

[QUOTE=Nebukadnezzer;52233595]if he's so retarded then everybody should be a billionaire and the president[/QUOTE] - Wealth: He was not only born into wealth, but made enough bad business choices (including bankrupting a Casino, which is supposed to print money) to such an extent that he would be more rich if he had just saved his money instead. - President: He's only president because he appealed to people's racism/xenophobic tendencies with shallow rhetoric instead of actionable plans and credibility. Clinton lost because she ran a shit campaign and took money from other democratic ticket candidates. Not to mention, you are conveniently ignoring the Russian astro turfing and cyber attacks.

[QUOTE=BlindSniper17;52233635]- President: He's only president because he appealed to people's racism/xenophobic tendencies with shallow rhetoric instead of actionable plans and credibility. Clinton lost because she ran a shit campaign and took money from other democratic ticket candidates.[/QUOTE] Wasn't he also supported by a fringe part of the GOP which pushed him because his lack of experience and clear inability to make good decisions made him quite malleable to their own agendas ?

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;52233639]Wasn't he also supported by a fringe part of the GOP which pushed him because his lack of experience and clear inability to make good decisions made him quite malleable to their own agendas ?[/QUOTE] Yes, that too towards the end of his campaign.

Problem with all this is that the Republicans have no spine and won't impeach Trump. That being said, if Trump is impeached at ANY point within his term, I will recite the entirety of the United States Constitution while under the pain and suffering of a Carolina reaper. :toxx: :toxx: :toxx: :terrists: [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Toxx clause: if Trump is impeached or leaves the white house before his term ends ban me. Escape: must recite the entire American constitution whilst eating Carolina peppers" - Kiwi))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=joshuadim;52233643]Problem with all this is that the Republicans have no spine and won't impeach Trump. That being said, if Trump is impeached at ANY point within his term, I will recite the entirety of the United States Constitution while under the pain and suffering of a Carolina reaper. :toxx: :toxx: :toxx: :terrists:[/QUOTE] :toxx:

Trump sure is inspiring a lot of toxx clauses! [editline]15th May 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=BlindSniper17;52233647]:toxx:[/QUOTE] Does this mean you are also toxxing I am confused

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;52233632]Forget it, Nesto. If you need to believe that every major journalistic entity in the world is lying to preserve your delusions, then don't let me stop you.[/QUOTE] And you continue to believe that Trump is a traitor and guilty of treason because the media tells you so. Getting a bit pot n kettle there man. In 2017 you're delusional if you want actual evidence instead of faceless hearsay. What a time to be alive.

[QUOTE=Lambeth;52233648]Trump sure is inspiring a lot of toxx clauses! [editline]15th May 2017[/editline] Does this mean you are also toxxing I am confused[/QUOTE] No he's just confirming my toxx with a quote so I can't back down Not that I'm going to or anything

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[QUOTE=-nesto-;52233523]Well for starters they can post the transcript of the meeting that they possess(with proper redactions ofc).[/QUOTE] I don't think there even is a transcript, in any kind of classified talks you really don't want anything on paper. I'm assuming the source was an aide in the room relaying what they heard. Even then, why would a transcript prove anything when supporters will say it's forged? At this point I think there's plain & simply nothing to convince people who don't want to believe this. Jim Jones all the way to the end. [editline]a[/editline] I'm late on these points cause this thread is too fucking fast, really just stop messing with nesto/etc as there's nothing we can say.

[QUOTE=-nesto-;52233653]And you continue to believe that Trump is a traitor and guilty of treason because the media tells you so. Getting a bit pot n kettle there man. In 2017 you're delusional if you want actual evidence instead of faceless hearsay. What a time to be alive.[/QUOTE] That's some potent irony right there.

[QUOTE=-nesto-;52233653]And you continue to believe that Trump is a traitor and guilty of treason because the media tells you so. Getting a bit pot n kettle there man. In 2017 you're delusional if you want actual evidence instead of faceless hearsay. What a time to be alive.[/QUOTE] i can't tell if nesto is a joke, or just the punchline

[QUOTE=-nesto-;52233653]And you continue to believe that Trump is a traitor and guilty of treason because the media tells you so. Getting a bit pot n kettle there man. In 2017 you're delusional if you want actual evidence instead of faceless hearsay. What a time to be alive.[/QUOTE] In the God knows how much evidence that has been published in these past few months. You continue to view all of us as "Crazy people" for believing that Trump has done terrible shit. I would be on the boat of "Trump is innocent, until proven guilty" if Trump was an ok dude who was a pretty decent person. But the Fact that the Orange shit stained Orangutan with a Whale's Vagina for a Mouth is such a absolute shit cunt with a massive cloud of Narcissism that lurks wherever he goes. And the fact he's done enough shit that any corrupt politician does in their free time. Its kinda hard to stay in the boat of "This guy doesn't seem bad...i'll wait until he's proven guilty."

[QUOTE=Nebukadnezzer;52233595]if he's so retarded then everybody should be a billionaire and the president[/QUOTE] Lmao, this is the only defense Trumpets have left, this isn't the only thread where someone tried to derail the allegations by saying "lool hurrdurr the left is making fun of disabled people MAGA" Brainwashed, just what the Russians wanted.

[QUOTE=-nesto-;52233653]And you continue to believe that Trump is a traitor and guilty of treason because the media tells you so. Getting a bit pot n kettle there man. In 2017 you're delusional if you want actual evidence instead of faceless hearsay. What a time to be alive.[/QUOTE] Yes, which is why the Republican party is delusional. Who needs hard scientific evidence that blatantly confirms global warming? We [I]feel[/I] that it isn't real, so why bother? Who needs an investigation into the Russia stuff? We [I]feel[/I] it isn't real, so it's not worth investigating, and we should fire the head of the FBI to shut down the investigation. I don't trust the media, but now that WaPo, Buzzfeed, Reuters, and CBS have all [I]independently[/I] confirmed the fact that Trump released incredibly sensitive data, I'm inclined to believe them. What would convince you? Should the media just leak all the data publicly? Should they say exactly who they got the information from, so that he can lose his job and so that nobody will ever leak information to the media again out of fear of retaliation? What the fuck will convince you? You're clamoring for evidence, but when people start an investigation to find that evidence and the person implicated tries his hardest to shut it down wholesale, you just say it's "hearsay." Really? Let's investigate instead of dismissing accusations from multiple entirely distinct media organizations. You don't find evidence if you don't investigate, and Trump is trying damn hard to stop investigation from happening.

[QUOTE=-nesto-;52233653]And you continue to believe that Trump is a traitor and guilty of treason because the media tells you so. Getting a bit pot n kettle there man. In 2017 you're delusional if you want actual evidence instead of faceless hearsay. What a time to be alive.[/QUOTE] But the press conference covered by the media has a bias too, they only show certain parts! Clearly as an intellectual yourself, we should be getting our information and how we should think of current events through your apparent critical thinking and positive Trump threads. Listen buddy, I know you're attempting to say "don't put the cart before the horse" but outright downplaying what he's done so far in an attempt to strengthen the "innocent before proven guilty" narrative you put forth for a man who wants to destroy the constitutional checks & balances system we should be following, is irony and reeks of delusion You are in no better position to judge another person's interpretation when you'll grasp at anything to defend a politician with no political experience. This is like saying that applying for bankruptcy for a company you own to save yourself is testament to your strong political skills.

[QUOTE=.Isak.;52233680][...]What would convince you?[...][/QUOTE] Obviously the only thing that will do is if Trump says it's true. Anything short of that won't because Trump's hearsay holds more weight than the whole of the entire world's reporting press. [I][Nixon] wasn't a criminal; he said so. All those anonymous sources were just democratic spies out to harm the republican party - traitors, the lot of them. They'd say anything to harm great old [Nixon]; he's just doing everything he can to keep our country great! ... and even if he DID do those things, he's the President - and when the President does it, it isn't illegal.[/I]

[QUOTE=-nesto-;52233653]And you continue to believe that Trump is a traitor and guilty of treason because the media tells you so. Getting a bit pot n kettle there man. In 2017 you're delusional if you want actual evidence instead of faceless hearsay. What a time to be alive.[/QUOTE] At this point I'm pretty doubtful that Trump himself has the intelligence to carry out an act of treason. I'm seriously considering the possibility that he is so hopelessly, unconscionably fucking stupid that he actually, by complete accident, made himself look guilty as fuck by firing the guy investigating his campaign's connections to Russia the day before leaking classified intelligence to the Russian foreign minister during a closed-door meeting with no US press access.

[QUOTE=Banned?;52233474]This is the age we live in now, where people complain about journalistic ethics and yet when people stick to those ethics, like protecting your sources, they get lambasted for lying.[/QUOTE] It's a truly genius way that the current administration has censored the news. Not through actual legislation or draconian executive orders, but by riling up really stupid people. every time there's something negative about trump in the news you can be sure that THE NEWS IS FAKE! THE NEWS IS FAKE! is going to come screaming out of the WH and fox news and breitbart. Not good. Genius, but not good at all. [editline]15th May 2017[/editline] Honestly I can't even say I'd only be satisfied with trump being merely impeached at this point, but locked up in federal prison for the rest of his life. This dude is fucking dangerous.

I wonder why trump hasn't tweeted yet. someone must be holding onto his phone through these tough times.