Trump revealed highly classified information to Russian foreign minister and ambassador - Polidicks

[QUOTE=-nesto-;52236683]That's been proven false[/QUOTE] The only thing proven false is you. twice now.

[QUOTE=Sitkero;52236723]A proper source for these quotes would be nice[/QUOTE] Sorry, forgot to link it. Fixed now.

[QUOTE=-nesto-;52236699][URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/05/11/full-transcript-acting-fbi-director-mccabe-and-others-testify-before-the-senate-intelligence-committee/"]WaPo has the full transcript of his hearing[/URL] Acting Director McCabe(A Democrat) HEINRICH: Thank you for your candor. Do you feel like you have the adequate resources for the existing investigations that the -- that the bureau is invested in right now to -- to follow them wherever they may lead? MCCABE: Sir, if you're referring to the Russia investigation, I do. I believe we have the adequate resources to do it and I know that we have resourced that investigation adequately. If you're referring to the many constantly multiplying counter-intelligence threats that we face across the spectrum, they get bigger and more challenging every day and resources become an issue over time. HEINRICH: Sure. MCCABE: But in terms of that investigation, sir, I can -- I can assure you we are covered. HEINRICH: Thank you. Another bit that's never discussed([I]for some reason[/I]) RUBIO: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. McCabe, can you without going into the specific of any individual investigation, I think the American people want to know, has the dismissal of Mr. Comey in any way impeded, interrupted, stopped or negatively impacted any of the work, any investigation, or any ongoing projects at the Federal Bureau of Investigations? MCCABE: As you know, Senator, the work of the men and women of the FBI continues despite any changes in circumstance, any decisions. So there has been no effort to impede our investigation today. Quite simply put sir, you cannot stop the men and women of the FBI from doing the right thing, protecting the American people, and upholding the Constitution.[/QUOTE] Comey requested extra funds to expand the investigation. Trump fires him for it. Trump admits to firing him for his role in the investigation. A new acting FBI director comes in and withdraws the request for funds. What exactly are you trying to prove with that? You said it was "proven false" that Comey requested extra funds and was fired for it, but your quote here doesn't prove a single thing? Furthermore, the new acting FBI director may state that the investigation is continuing, but this still does not disprove the words that literally came out of Trump's mouth when he stated that Comey was fired [I]because of his role in the Russian investigation[/I]. Firing Comey because of his role in the investigation is still a high crime of office.

[QUOTE]Trump “could be a risk for our sources,” the official said, speaking anonymously and on condition his country would not be identified.[/QUOTE] From the FP article. Just like I said...

[QUOTE=-nesto-;52236729]Sorry, forgot to link it. Fixed now.[/QUOTE] I am failing to see the part of this where it contradicts Trump's own admission that the reason he fired Comey was 'this Russian thing' shortly after a request from Comey for more resources for the investigation

[QUOTE=Sitkero;52236761]I am failing to see the part of this where it contradicts Trump's own admission that the reason he fired Comey was 'this Russian thing' shortly after a request from Comey for more resources for the investigation[/QUOTE] maybe the new strategy is to just post completely unrelated information and pretend you BTFO the libtards with it

Jesus tap dancing Christ some of you are so fucking dense. This is why Trump still has an approval rating over 30%

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;52236743]Comey requested extra funds to expand the investigation.[/QUOTE] According to nameless Congressional officials. I'm sure Comey will address this when he eventually does his open door hearing. [QUOTE]Trump fires him for it.[/QUOTE] Source? He had made a recommendation. But regardless of recommendation, I was going to fire Comey knowing there was no good time to do it And in fact, when I decided to just do it, I said to myself -- I said, you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story. It's an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should've won. This doesn't saying anything about firing him because he was investigating Trump [QUOTE]A new acting FBI director comes in and withdraws the request for funds.[/QUOTE] A Democrat comes in and yanks the request for funds into a Republican "guilty of treason"(your words)? Ok, Mr. Jones. This also seems to be overlooked constantly aswell. HOLT: ...angry with Mr. Comey because of his Russia investigation? TRUMP: I just want somebody that's competent. I am a big fan of the FBI. I love the FBI. HOLT: But were you a fan of... (CROSSTALK) TRUMP: ...people of the FBI. HOLT: him taking up that investigation? TRUMP: I think that -- about the Hillary Clinton investigation? HOLT: No, about -- about the Russian investigation and possible... TRUMP: No, I don't care... HOLT: ...links between... TRUMP: Look -- look, let me tell you. As far as I'm concerned, I want that thing to be absolutely done properly. When I did this now, I said I probably maybe will confuse people. Maybe I'll expand that -- you know, I'll lengthen the time because it should be over with. It should -- in my opinion, should've been over with a long time ago because it -- all it is an excuse. But I said to myself I might even lengthen out the investigation. But I have to do the right thing for the American people. He's the wrong man for that position.

[QUOTE=MrRalgoman;52236628]If Trump did share information he shouldn't have I would like to see him impeached as much as everyone else would, but there isn't much leg to stand on when you claim "well these 2 people told us so but we cant tell you who". That's the issue I have with all of this, everyone is always claiming Trump has broke the law but nobody is willing to formally press charges or anything because they [I]know[/I] that they have nothing to prove it with besides "these 2 guys that told us so".[/QUOTE] This sounds too familiar. Do you know how journalists at the Washington Post were able to reveal the Watergate scandal? I'll give you a hint. They didn't publish their informant's name. Why else would anyone listen to a guy who called himself "Deep Throat"? [video=youtube;vETxuL7Ij3Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vETxuL7Ij3Q&list=PLzfihA-EMZKmSHIyN8ZpXyRPlQHG0cZHT&index=4[/video]

I will admit that my exact wording could be taken to imply that the investigation has halted outright but I think it's kind of pedantic to go over the semantics of that one part. Strikes me as trying to avoid the rest of the post [QUOTE=Sitkero;52236666]And Trump did share information. McMaster was at least willing to admit that much. While as far as I know the WH still hasn't quite got around to confirming or denying it was classified, McMaster has also admitted that [quote]In the context of that discussion, what the president discussed with the foreign minister was wholly appropriate to that investigation,[/quote] He's also stated that Trump didn't even know where the information came from and honestly I think that should be a massive cause for concern in and of itself. That is just straight up negligent[/quote] [url=http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-russia-leak-latest-news-president-did-not-know-source-president-classified-information-white-a7739286.html]Quotes source, by the way[/url]

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;52236782]maybe the new strategy is to just post completely unrelated information and pretend you BTFO the libtards with it[/QUOTE] i'm convinced that if trump told his trumplings to hang themselves in mass suicide "because the liberals will hate it" they'd tie the noose extra tight so as to not displease the big d

[QUOTE=EXPLOOOSIONS!;52236810]i'm convinced that if trump told his trumplings to hang themselves in mass suicide "because the liberals will hate it" they'd tie the noose extra tight so as to not displease the big d[/QUOTE] I wouldn't entirely be opposed to Trump saying that..

[QUOTE=-nesto-;52236699][URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/05/11/full-transcript-acting-fbi-director-mccabe-and-others-testify-before-the-senate-intelligence-committee/"]WaPo has the full transcript of his hearing[/URL] Acting Director McCabe(A Democrat) HEINRICH: Thank you for your candor. Do you feel like you have the adequate resources for the existing investigations that the -- that the bureau is invested in right now to -- to follow them wherever they may lead? MCCABE: Sir, if you're referring to the Russia investigation, I do. I believe we have the adequate resources to do it and I know that we have resourced that investigation adequately. If you're referring to the many constantly multiplying counter-intelligence threats that we face across the spectrum, they get bigger and more challenging every day and resources become an issue over time. HEINRICH: Sure. MCCABE: But in terms of that investigation, sir, I can -- I can assure you we are covered. HEINRICH: Thank you. Another bit that's never discussed([I]for some reason[/I]) RUBIO: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. McCabe, can you without going into the specific of any individual investigation, I think the American people want to know, has the dismissal of Mr. Comey in any way impeded, interrupted, stopped or negatively impacted any of the work, any investigation, or any ongoing projects at the Federal Bureau of Investigations? MCCABE: As you know, Senator, the work of the men and women of the FBI continues despite any changes in circumstance, any decisions. So there has been no effort to impede our investigation today. Quite simply put sir, you cannot stop the men and women of the FBI from doing the right thing, protecting the American people, and upholding the Constitution.[/QUOTE] The fact that it wasn't immediately, successfully detrimental to the investigation does not change the fact that Trump fired Comey because of the investigation.

[QUOTE=Sherow_Xx;52236824]The fact that it wasn't immediately, successfully detrimental to the investigation does not change the fact that Trump fired Comey because of the investigation.[/QUOTE] okay, saying that he's a criminal is one thing, but saying that daddy d fucked up and didn't accomplish what he wanted? maybe next you'll tell me the treasury is guarded by a leprechaun

[url]https://www.buzzfeed.com/sheerafrenkel/israeli-official-trump-sharing-intelligence-with-russia-is?utm_term=.sulAegX1d6#.uibzobgZL5[/url] [B][U]Israeli Official: Trump Sharing Intelligence With Russia Is "Worst Fears Confirmed"[/U][/B] [I]Two Israeli officials tell BuzzFeed News that the intelligence shared by Trump "syncs up" with intelligence that Israel shared with its US counterparts.[/I] [QUOTE] Two Israeli intelligence officials confirmed to BuzzFeed News Tuesday that Israel had shared specific intelligence with the US regarding ISIS plots to smuggle explosive laptops onto planes, under the unique intelligence-sharing agreement the two countries maintain. The revelation that Trump had shared that intelligence with Russian officials was Israel's "worst fears confirmed," said one of the intelligence officers. "We have an arrangement with America which is unique to the world of intelligence sharing. We do not have this relationship with any other country," said the officer, who spoke to BuzzFeed News on condition of anonymity as he was not granted permission to speak to the press. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE] A second intelligence officer, who spoke to BuzzFeed News via encrypted app and also spoke on condition of anonymity, confirmed that Israel had shared specific intelligence with the US regarding an active threat to US-bound planes. [B][U]Speaking to BuzzFeed News via a military base in northern Israel, he said Israeli intelligence officers were "boiling mad and demanding answers" as to whether Israel's military would continue its current intelligence-sharing agreement with the US.[/U][/B] [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrRalgoman;52236298]So, we can't trust Trump and the WH because they have skewed things before, but we can trust WaPo because they haven't [B]EVER[/B] skewed [B]ANYTHING[/B] before, right? The hypocrisy is comical.[/QUOTE] For the last time, it's not about [I]skew[/I], it's about [I]credibility[/I]. And considering the White House has used terms such as "alternative facts" to cover their asses from blatant bullshit, the White House is currently lacking in the latter.

[QUOTE=-nesto-;52236798]According to nameless Congressional officials. I'm sure Comey will address this when he eventually does his open door hearing. Source? He had made a recommendation. But regardless of recommendation, I was going to fire Comey knowing there was no good time to do it And in fact, when I decided to just do it, I said to myself -- I said, you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story. It's an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should've won. This doesn't saying anything about firing him because he was investigating Trump A Democrat comes in and yanks the request for funds into a Republican "guilty of treason"(your words)? Ok, Mr. Jones. This also seems to be overlooked constantly aswell. HOLT: ...angry with Mr. Comey because of his Russia investigation? TRUMP: I just want somebody that's competent. I am a big fan of the FBI. I love the FBI. HOLT: But were you a fan of... (CROSSTALK) TRUMP: ...people of the FBI. HOLT: him taking up that investigation? TRUMP: I think that -- about the Hillary Clinton investigation? HOLT: No, about -- about the Russian investigation and possible... TRUMP: No, I don't care... HOLT: ...links between... TRUMP: Look -- look, let me tell you. As far as I'm concerned, I want that thing to be absolutely done properly. When I did this now, I said I probably maybe will confuse people. Maybe I'll expand that -- you know, I'll lengthen the time because it should be over with. It should -- in my opinion, should've been over with a long time ago because it -- all it is an excuse. But I said to myself I might even lengthen out the investigation. But I have to do the right thing for the American people. He's the wrong man for that position.[/QUOTE] [url=http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/trump-praises-james-comey-230542]After his glowing praise for Comey[/url] [url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-praised-comey-in-october-then-fired-him-tuesday-for-that-very-conduct/2017/05/10/85e89f28-3597-11e7-b373-418f6849a004_story.html]just a few months prior[/url] you should be at least a little bit suspicious of the timing and this line about incompetence is, at the absolute best, questionable [editline]16th May 2017[/editline] I feel like this quote from Nesto's WaPo transcript source is interesting and has some relevance to the discussion at hand [quote=Wyden]Thank you very much Mr. Chairman. Gentlemen, it's fair to say I disagreed with Director Comey as much as anyone in this room but the timing of this firing is wrong to anyone with a semblance of ethics. Director Comey should be here this morning testifying to the American people about where the investigation he's been running stands. At our public hearing in January where he refused to discuss his investigation into connections between Russia and Trump associates I stated my fear that if the information didn't come out before inauguration day it might never come out. With all the recent talk in recent weeks about whether there is evidence of collusion, I fear some colleagues have forgotten that Donald Trump urged the Russians to hack his opponents. He also said repeatedly that he loved WikiLeaks. So the question is not whether Donald Trump actively encouraged the Russians and WikiLeaks to attack our democracy, he did; that is an established fact. The only question is whether he or someone associated with him coordinated with the Russians.[/quote]

[QUOTE=-nesto-;52236798] [QUOTE=Trump]He had made a recommendation. But regardless of recommendation, I was going to fire Comey knowing there was no good time to do it And in fact, when I decided to just do it, I said to myself -- I said, you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story. It's an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should've won.[/QUOTE] This doesn't saying anything about firing him because he was investigating Trump[/QUOTE] But in that quote, he is explaining his decision to fire Comey. I get that he isn't verbatim saying [I]"I FIRED HIM BECAUSE HE IS INVESTIGATING ME AND I WANT HIM TO STOP"[/I], but why the fuck is he bringing up [I]"the Russia thing is made up"[/I] when explaining his decision, if it doesn't have anything to do with his decision? He mentions no other things, and he is literally saying [I]"when I made the decision, I thought of the Russia investigation"[/I]. The only other possibility is that he meant that while he was making his decision based on legitimate concerns, he was coincidentally just also thinking about the Russia investigation being made up. Are you really willing to grasp for that straw?

[QUOTE=BlindSniper17;52236839][url]https://www.buzzfeed.com/sheerafrenkel/israeli-official-trump-sharing-intelligence-with-russia-is?utm_term=.sulAegX1d6#.uibzobgZL5[/url] [B][U]Israeli Official: Trump Sharing Intelligence With Russia Is "Worst Fears Confirmed"[/U][/B] [I]Two Israeli officials tell BuzzFeed News that the intelligence shared by Trump "syncs up" with intelligence that Israel shared with its US counterparts.[/I][/QUOTE] Buzzfeed? Seriously? smh Besides, these fake """"officials"""" are just overreacting. Daddy Don didn't do nuffin, and also what he did was completely justified since Russia is one of our closest allies. Israel isn't going to stop working with us, and also we don't need them and I wouldn't care if we stopped working with them. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Dindu nuffin memeshit" - Big Dumb American))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=BlindSniper17;52236839][url]https://www.buzzfeed.com/sheerafrenkel/israeli-official-trump-sharing-intelligence-with-russia-is?utm_term=.sulAegX1d6#.uibzobgZL5[/url] [B][U]Israeli Official: Trump Sharing Intelligence With Russia Is "Worst Fears Confirmed"[/U][/B] [I]Two Israeli officials tell BuzzFeed News that the intelligence shared by Trump "syncs up" with intelligence that Israel shared with its US counterparts.[/I][/QUOTE] Well fucking done Trump, you blithering fucking idiot. [editline]16th May 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;52236860]Buzzfeed? Seriously? smh Besides, these fake """"officials"""" are just overreacting. Daddy Don didn't do nuffin, and also what he did was completely justified since Russia is one of our closest allies. Israel isn't going to stop working with us, and also we don't need them and I wouldn't care if we stopped working with them.[/QUOTE] If the agreement on sharing that information with the US was that it would be kept private to as few individuals as possible, Trump giving it out randomly is a HUGE fucking problem.

[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;52236871] If the agreement on sharing that information with the US was that it would be kept private to as few individuals as possible, Trump giving it out randomly is a HUGE fucking problem.[/QUOTE] Scorpio was being sarcastic, but given the shitposting we've seen in this thread, I don't blame you for thinking he was being legit. Even I had to carefully think on it, which is really fucking bad if this is the state of our current political discourse when people non-ironically do say things such as that.

[QUOTE=BlindSniper17;52236882]Scorpio was being sarcastic, but given the shitposting we've seen in this thread, I don't blame you for thinking he was being legit. Even I had to carefully think on it, which is really fucking bad if this is the state of our current political discourse when people non-ironically do say things such as that.[/QUOTE] [IMG]https://facepunch.com/image.php?u=502867&dateline=1477540677[/IMG]

Russians must be through the roof with elation to not only have compromised the President of the United States, but to also have the GOP and 30% of the country enthusiastically enabling Russia and rigorously defending these allegations because God-Emperor Trump says its fake news.

[QUOTE=-nesto-;52236798] When I did this now, I said I probably maybe will confuse people. Maybe I'll expand that -- you know, I'll lengthen the time because it should be over with. It should -- in my opinion, should've been over with a long time ago because it -- all it is an excuse. But I said to myself I might even lengthen out the investigation. But I have to do the right thing for the American people.[/QUOTE] why are you quoting one of trump's most hilarious mental backflips in defence of him in the space of a sentence, he says that he'll lengthen the time that it is going on for [I]because it should be over with, and in his opinion it should have been over with a long time because all it is is in excuse[/I] the dude literally says that he'll lengthen the time of the investigation to make it over with how do you reason with that

[QUOTE=BlindSniper17;52236882]Scorpio was being sarcastic, but given the shitposting we've seen in this thread, I don't blame you for thinking he was being legit. Even I had to carefully think on it, which is really fucking bad if this is the state of our current political discourse when people non-ironically do say things such as that.[/QUOTE] Hey, I'm sure if nesto were to post right now, he would have something perfectly reasonable and insightful to add to the conversation

Daily Beast (which is a left-wing bias site according to the media bias site) just posted an allegation about the intel which, if true, is really huge. I'm not going to post it here because it's not center-left, but if another news site is able to verify these claims, I will post that other source's article here instead. If the allegations are true, Trump really dun fucking goofed.

You can post it here? You just can't use it as a thread source. People post fuckin Buzzfeed, Daily Beast can't be much worse.

It's like the idea of context doesn't exist to some people.

[QUOTE=-nesto-;52236918]You can post it here? You just can't use it as a thread source. People post fuckin Buzzfeed, Daily Beast can't be much worse.[/QUOTE] The guidelines for Polidicks say we can only use sites with Center-Left, Center, or Center-Right bias. Daily Beast has Left bias so I think it would be against the sub-forum rules for me to post it.

[QUOTE=BlindSniper17;52236926]The guidelines for Polidicks say we can only use sites with Center-Left, Center, or Center-Right bias. Daily Beast has Left bias so I think it would be against the sub-forum rules for me to post it.[/QUOTE] yeah but the only news that isn't fake is infowars and trump's twitter so you might as well post a tumblr blog