• US Supreme Court to consider whether silence can be evidence of guilt
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Sometimes the Court chooses to hear cases for the sake of saying "Well of course this is illegal you dumb fucks." I hope this is one of those.
[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];39234818']Sometimes the Court chooses to hear cases for the sake of saying "Well of course this is illegal you dumb fucks." I hope this is one of those.[/QUOTE] no, if that was the case, they would send it to a lower court since it'll be a waste of time.
[QUOTE=Hardpoint Nomad;39232381]Man, Gordon Freeman must have done a lot of crazy shit.[/QUOTE] He killed a platoon of Marines, indirectly brought about the end of society as we know it, and destabilized the regime that replaced it by [i]nuking its governmental nexus[/i]. So yeah, he did :v: In all seriousness, this case is never something I thought would ever be debatable. There is no call for it as far as I can tell, unless it's true that the Supreme Court wants to cement it irrevocably as the law of the land.
4 words: fuck the po-lice grasping at straws like usual
[QUOTE=Penguiin;39234990]4 words: fuck the po-lice grasping at straws like usual[/QUOTE] 4 words read the fucking thread people not reading like usual
[QUOTE=ShazzyFreak0;39235030]4 words read the fucking thread people not reading like usual[/QUOTE] i just felt the thread needed my input without any kind of effort on my behalf [sub][sub]fuck the police[/sub][/sub]
[QUOTE=areolop;39234840]no, if that was the case, they would send it to a lower court since it'll be a waste of time.[/QUOTE] Negative. The Court takes cases like this all the time. Every year the Court makes 80 or so decisions, and the majority of those aren't huge landmark cases or important questions. Many are just reaffirming basic concepts in the Constitution or clearing up differences in federal court decisions.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;39232014]So much for "the right to remain silent", you know, the first fucking thing they say when you are arrested?[/QUOTE] You have that right regardless of when you're read your Miranda rights. It's not a "this is when your right comes into effect" statement. Thus this [quote]Last April, the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the conviction but noted that federal appeals courts are split as to whether "pre-arrest, pre-Miranda silence is admissible as substantive evidence of guilt."[/quote] Shouldn't even be argued over.
[QUOTE=Noss;39233288]News like this makes me convinced the US is just a scripted comedy show, made for our entertainment.[/QUOTE] COMING SOON TO TLC WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU PUT 45 MILLION PEOPLE, AN INCOMPETENT GOVERNMENT, AND A CORRUPT PLUTOCRACY ON THE SAME CONTINENT?! WE STILL AREN'T SURE BUT WE'LL BE DAMNED IF IT ISN'T HI-LAAAAAAAAAR-IOUS! IDIOCRACY - MONDAY NIGHTS AT 9, ONLY ON TLC, THE VAPID REALITY SHOW NETWORK
Oh my fucking God, really?
[QUOTE=Joazzz;39233491]i'm not sure how this is funny[/QUOTE] that's because it's written by the people who did Big Bang Theory [I] "hey [del]Sheldon[/del] AMERICA, what are you up to?" "I'm installing [del]Ubuntu[/del] PATRIOTISM"[/I]
[QUOTE=Penguiin;39234990]4 words: fuck the po-lice grasping at straws like usual[/QUOTE] thats 3 words shitforbrains
One again the Supreme Court showing their all-encompassing love and respect for constitutional rights. Where would we be without them?
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;39232014]So much for "the right to remain silent", you know, the first fucking thing they say when you are arrested?[/QUOTE] There is no way that the Supreme Court is going to overturn the many, many precedents set by both lower courts and themselves over that past few hundred years. They will probably just send it back to the next lower court, and write a decision saying that the right to not self-incriminate is fundamental and part of the constitution.
but silence is evidence of guilt
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;39232014]So much for "the right to remain silent", you know, the first fucking thing they say when you are arrested?[/QUOTE] You have the right to remain silent, you should probably not take it because it will prove you're guilty. Welcome to the people's republic of Obamastan. [editline]16th January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;39241118]but silence is evidence of guilt[/QUOTE] Sure but it's not viable, what if someone is scared, or traumatized? In a police state in which the military can detain and convict anyone: "he was silent he must be guilty" is probably the most widely used "reason" to throw someone in prison and make convictions before judges "simple". I can't believe that all this stuff I grew up [I]knowing[/I] and [I]believing in[/I] is on the chopping block. I guess this is what happens we we don't take the constitution seriously anymore.
Silence might not be evidence, but I think owning the gun that killed two people is pretty solid.
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