[QUOTE=Jacen;50301027]Using an off-shore bank company doesn't automatically mean tax evasion. You're making a baseless assumption.[/QUOTE]Not really, as the overwhelming majority of these shell corporations are used for explicitly one purpose. And when arranged through a company whose job is to help the rich avoid paying taxes, it just doubles down.
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[QUOTE=Killuah;50301058]Explain?[/QUOTE]You fucking love guilt by association on every other topic and person you find disagreeable.
[QUOTE=Killuah;50301054]The probability is high but there is no evidence of any tax evasion so far.[/QUOTE]
And that's good enough for me for the time being. I wasn't saying "SHE DID IT" like flash marsh would like to assume with his snarky shit, but I am saying "It's probably the fucking case".
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;50301080]Not really, as the overwhelming majority of these shell corporations are used for explicitly one purpose. And when arranged through a company whose job is to help the rich avoid paying taxes, it just doubles down.
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You fucking love guilt by association on every other topic and person you find disagreeable.[/QUOTE]
What???
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[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50301087]And that's good enough for me for the time being. I wasn't saying "SHE DID IT" like flash marsh would like to assume with his snarky shit, but I am saying "It's probably the fucking case".[/QUOTE]
I can go with that but I have yet to see any solid evidence against what her PR dude said.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;50301080]Not really, as the overwhelming majority of these shell corporations are used for explicitly one purpose. And when arranged through a company whose job is to help the rich avoid paying taxes, it just doubles down.[/QUOTE]
It's fine to be skeptical of her explanation given the circumstance, I certainly am, but to claim that she for sure did it to evade taxes is still just an assumption when you have no real proof. The same applies to anyone else named in the database.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;50299078]No she doesn't.
This is newsworthy because of her unprecedented celebrity political activism on humanitarian grounds.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, sure it's that black and white, cut and dried.
Oh wait, if you actually listened to her speeches and also payed attention to what she does factually instead of reading an internet headline, you would find her walk and her talk not only do not line up almost ever, you'll also find her speeches are pretty much recycled concern trolling with only a few word changes per subject here and there.
[QUOTE=Killuah;50301058]Explain?[/QUOTE]
You routinely show a waterboi level of both cognitive dissonance and a tendency to appeal to authority where in that authority is "your friend" or "this group of _____" and somehow that's just supposed to carry your argument even though no one can remotely verify any of your justifications.
You're, also like waterbra, prone to exhibiting a pathological inability to understand someone might have a different life and set of experiences than you and thus a differing point of view, which is rather ironic considering how galactically far into the leftist spectrum you are. Last time I checked leftists are "supposed" to be rather tolerant to other points of view to the point of caricature. (do note the quotations before hitting the reply button)
jumping to conclusions: the thread
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there's hardly any info yet you nutjobs
[QUOTE=27X;50301350]
You routinely show a waterboi level of both cognitive dissonance and a tendency to appeal to authority where in that authority is "your friend" or "this group of _____" and somehow that's just supposed to carry your argument even no one can remotely verify any of your justifications.
You're, also like waterbra, prone to exhibiting a pathological inability to understand someone might have a different life and set of experiences than you and thus a differing point of view, which is rather ironic considering how galactically far into the leftist spectrum you are. Last time I checked leftists are "supposed" to be rather tolerant to other points of view to the point of caricature. (do note the quotations before hitting the reply button)[/QUOTE]
I don't tolerate prejudice, generalizations and xenophobia if that is what you're getting at.
I don't know what the rest of your post is rambling about but if you dislike me so much please take it to a PM instead of posting about me in a completely unrelated thread where [B]all I did was saying that people shouldn't jump to conclusions and assumption, [/B]especially when it results in high quality posts like this
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;50301051]Coming from you, the hypocrisy is fucking golden.[/QUOTE]
or this
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;50301056]Oh god I love that I posted this. Got the exact hypocrisy that I wanted.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jacam12SUX;50301450]jumping to conclusions: the thread
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there's hardly any info yet you nutjobs[/QUOTE]
She's literally linked to a tax haven, I think it's fair to say it's pretty suspicious.
[QUOTE][I]Emma receives absolutely no tax or monetary advantages from this offshore company whatsoever – only privacy.[/I][/QUOTE]
I guess she didn't even get her anonymity and privacy after all.
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;50301717]I guess she didn't even get her anonymity and privacy after all.[/QUOTE]
No, no, you see, it's completely okay to violate someone's privacy if they're rich and famous and we think that they've done something wrong when they actually haven't!
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;50300760]
Ah yes, I'd love less taxes as well. I don't really care that if funds our healthcare, schools, roads and social security. JUST MORE MONEY FOR ME. [sp]/s[/sp][/QUOTE]
Lots and lots of taxpayers money goes to fucking waste.
And here in Slovenia, if you run company, if you want to legally pay workers, government takes around 50% of that money (when accounted for everything together). It's fucking bullshit.
Then that workers goes to shop, where he again needs to pay taxes. And everything else.
And once again we reach that, we don't actually know but it's not unfair to make the assumption situation.
I'd says it's fishy but it could be legitimate. Just because people jump to a conclusion that is often pretty likely doesn't mean we need to burn them at the stake, if proven wrong though then fair enough, shame on them.
[quote]‘Emma Charlotte Duerre Watson’ is a beneficiary in an offshore company based in the British Virgin Islands.[/quote]
Interesting... I wouldn't have expected to find her there.
If she doesn't end up releasing taxes or something, this will probably stick with her for years.
Looks like this was confirmed by her representative.
[url]http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/representative-actress-emma-watson-offshore-company-39040142[/url]
What are the legitmate purposes of putting all your money in an offshore account OTHER than avoiding taxes?
Seriously, why would Emma need an offshore account? What could be the purposes? To me it seems like offshore accounts are always for avoiding taxes or paying a lot less.
[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;50312850]What are the legitmate purposes of putting all your money in an offshore account OTHER than avoiding taxes?
Seriously, why would Emma need an offshore account? What could be the purposes? To me it seems like offshore accounts are always for avoiding taxes or paying a lot less.[/QUOTE]
Getting a house without the public knowing the address. Privacy.
[QUOTE=OmniConsUme;50312881]Getting a house without the public knowing the address. Privacy.[/QUOTE]
How does that work if you have a local account? How can public find out your address if you buy a house from your local account? Is that a western thing or what?
[QUOTE=OmniConsUme;50312881]Getting a house without the public knowing the address. Privacy.[/QUOTE]
Did she get a house like that?
Privacy in what way vs the Privacy a local account gives you? seems like the only Privacy is for hiding from your own country.
[QUOTE=rndgenerator;50312937]How does that work if you have a local account? How can public find out your address if you buy a house from your local account? Is that a western thing or what?[/QUOTE]
Assuming the UK is anything like Australia if you know the name of the block of land you can put in a request through whatever the lands department is called in the UK and get a copy of the deed for the property (and more). It could also run the other way - people like private investigators aren't supposed to be able to access the police database but generally have friends in the police who will pass on the details for the right price.
[QUOTE=download;50312999]Assuming the UK is anything like Australia if you know the name of the block of land you can put in a request through whatever the lands department is called in the UK and get a copy of the deed for the property (and more). It could also run the other way - people like private investigators aren't supposed to be able to access the police database but generally have friends in the police who will pass on the details for the right price.[/QUOTE]
And how does offshore account prevent that exactly?
[QUOTE=rndgenerator;50313364]And how does offshore account prevent that exactly?[/QUOTE]
The house would be owned by a foreign company in a nation that doesn't pass out the details of shareholders or company officers.
[QUOTE=download;50313380]The house would be owned by a foreign company in a nation that doesn't pass out the details of shareholders or company officers.[/QUOTE]
Can't you buy from them using local banks? You don't need an actual offshore account to trade with them, do you?
[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;50312850]What are the legitmate purposes of putting all your money in an offshore account OTHER than avoiding taxes?
Seriously, why would Emma need an offshore account? What could be the purposes? To me it seems like offshore accounts are always for avoiding taxes or paying a lot less.[/QUOTE]
If you're doing it legally, then avoiding taxes is a legitimate purpose.
[QUOTE=DuCT;50313619]If you're doing it legally, then avoiding taxes is a legitimate purpose.[/QUOTE]
So if the system is set up for "use" by the wealthy only, eventually the poor bear the majority burden of the taxes. Not really all that great even if it is legal.
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;50299019]Cameron did the same, made no difference for him.[/QUOTE]
Cameron's a politician and Watson's a well-loved celebrity
[QUOTE=Boilrig;50299000]I can understand the privacy angle to an extent, but the fact she used the company to buy the property in London, is it too hard to pay from your own bank account or something. I'm unfamiliar with overseas buyers of property in the UK.[/QUOTE]
Basically these offshore companies are used to create a veil of anonymity as tax havens often don't require companies based there to release any kind of information to the public.
As such you can buy and sell with these companies without your name itself ending up anywhere. The company itself will still pay taxes, as those things are a thing of public record in the UK or similar countries, but your private person will stay exempt.
Compare that what everything a company has to release in Europe. Shareholder information, audits, shareholder decisions and countless other stuff.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;50299078]No she doesn't.
This is newsworthy because of her unprecedented celebrity political activism on humanitarian grounds.[/QUOTE]
What activism? You mean that veiled sexism he for she?
[QUOTE=rndgenerator;50313486]Can't you buy from them using local banks? You don't need an actual offshore account to trade with them, do you?[/QUOTE]
You don't appear to understand how it works. I'd suggest rereading what I wrote.
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