• DEA to Use Emergency Powers to Ban K2, AKA "Legal Weed"
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[QUOTE=debmaster;26297431]Seeing you guys rage so much over something so unimportant is hilarious. Keep up the good work DEA, Facepunch could use some more comedy threads.[/QUOTE] YEAH I love paying the DEA's salary so they can make us laugh on forums. I'd hate to say it, but if they'd just FUCK OFF and leave weed alone there would be no fake weed to also make illegal...Instead of pouring all these resources into this "WAR ON POT" they should be withdrawing all resources, the DEA needs to rethink their budget.
[QUOTE=Killoch0;26293060]Just a heads up, unlike real weed, there is real evidence that K2 and alot of other legal weed substitutes are actually very dangerous to your health.[/QUOTE]Just a heads up, cigarettes are deadly, and I can by them for about 5 bucks at any convince store.
[QUOTE=TailsPrower;26297709]Just a heads up, cigarettes are deadly, and I can by them for about 5 bucks at any convince store.[/QUOTE] Ditto with alcohol.
[QUOTE=TailsPrower;26297709]Just a heads up, cigarettes are deadly, and I can by them for about 5 bucks at any convince store.[/QUOTE] Just a heads up, the chemical formula for K2 is likely to be similar to many harmful compounds, and chemical reactions are never guaranteed to produce only what you want. C13H16ClNO. Now then, there's probably several hundred chemicals with that molecular formula. Getting only K2 would be near impossible.
[QUOTE=|FlapJack|;26297898]Just a heads up, the chemical formula for K2 is likely to be similar to many harmful compounds, and chemical reactions are never guaranteed to produce only what you want. C13H16ClNO. Now then, there's probably several hundred chemicals with that molecular formula. Getting only K2 would be near impossible.[/QUOTE]Did you not read? This had NOTHING to do with their decision to make it illegal. This is beside the fucking point. Jesus Christ, please, fucking read the thread before you try to prove how much of a genius you are.
[QUOTE=TailsPrower;26298104]Did you not read? This had NOTHING to do with their decision to make it illegal. This is beside the fucking point. Jesus Christ, please, fucking read the thread before you try to prove how much of a genius you are.[/QUOTE] Synthetic drugs < Natural drugs. Illegalising it is a good idea, legalising average weed's probably a good idea too - as then it's not predominantly gangs profiting from it, and it can be used properly. tl;dr: They were right in doing it, stop crying.
[QUOTE=Killerjc;26281226]Spice fucks people up, stop being so YEAH MAN DRUGS YEAH YEAH I know first hand what spice does to people, it fucking ruined my brother, all he does is smoke spice and leech of my parents wow thanks facepunch 420 erryday fuk dha poleece[/QUOTE] Yeah, let's blame your brother's inferior personality traits on K2.
[QUOTE=|FlapJack|;26298318]Synthetic drugs < Natural drugs. Illegalising it is a good idea, legalising average weed's probably a good idea too - as then it's not predominantly gangs profiting from it, and it can be used properly. tl;dr: They were right in doing it, stop crying.[/QUOTE]No, they weren't!! They didn't even consider the actual harmful effects of the damn thing, they made it illegal because kids were using it to get high. Give me ONE good reason this will help make weed legal. Just one, I fucking dare you.
[QUOTE=TailsPrower;26280878]It doesn't get you high like weed, but it's not bad. It in NO WAY needs to be made illegal. If you aren't mad as shit over this I dunno what's wrong with you.[/QUOTE] Alternatives exist. Untwist your panties and stop being mad over stuff that you don't need.
[QUOTE=|FlapJack|;26298318]Synthetic drugs < Natural drugs. Illegalising it is a good idea, legalising average weed's probably a good idea too - as then it's not predominantly gangs profiting from it, and it can be used properly. tl;dr: They were right in doing it, stop crying.[/QUOTE] cigarettes and alcohol kill 100x more than k2 probably ever has, get off your double standard and realize prohibiting it creates MORE problems. you haven't reduced the demand by criminalizing it, you just create more crime and a new potential profit resource for people willing to sell it.
All the DEA is doing is trying everything they can to keep putting people in prison for marijuana while states start passing medical.
[QUOTE=TailsPrower;26282268]That doesn't make what they did right god damn it people [editline]25th November 2010[/editline] Really, when you think about it, throwing someone in jail for abusing ANY drug is fucking stupid. They need to be helped not treated like criminals; unless they did something illegal to get the money to get the drugs, there's no reason heroin addicts should be thrown in jail.[/QUOTE] Glad i live in a free country. Well we get a fine here if get caught with weed, but we don't go to jail. Silly americans.
[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyAlt;26302309]cigarettes and alcohol kill 100x more than k2 probably ever has, get off your double standard and realize prohibiting it creates MORE problems. you haven't reduced the demand by criminalizing it, you just create more crime and a new potential profit resource for people willing to sell it.[/QUOTE] That's why I said legalising weed is probably a good idea - it's relatively harmless compared to K2. K2 should be illegal, average weed should be legal. [quote]Give me ONE good reason this will help make weed legal. Just one, I fucking dare you.[/quote] I never said it would. Learn to read.
This is so fucking stupid. I can't buy my incense and now I can't fucking meditate.
[QUOTE=Fata;26281197]Fuck the DEA, fuck every last one of them. And arent the supposed to use emergency powers... for [b]EMERGENCYS!?[/b][/QUOTE]Yeah, they usually use emergency powers to perform no-knock raids on homes of people suspected of being drug dealers, then wonder why terrified homeowners charge them with a gun or knife.
[QUOTE=TailsPrower;26280878]It doesn't get you high like weed, but it's not bad. It in NO WAY needs to be made illegal. If you aren't mad as shit over this I dunno what's wrong with you.[/QUOTE] Have you even tried it? It gives you an insane for like a good hour.
this ban is totally justified hell, I know someone who got aids from a used k2 needle
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;26315352]this ban is totally justified hell, I know someone who got aids from a used k2 needle[/QUOTE] One persons a dumbass so it's everyone's fault? When you use a needle, you always use a fresh one you've bought yourself no matter the drug. Supermarkets here sell them for insulin
Here's my logic: as long as there is [B]ANY [/B]type of substance, be it alcohol, cannabis, tobacco, whatever, it will be abused and/or used irresponsibly. Cannabis's legal use is for it to be for cancer patients to numb pain or calm them down or whatever it is. Don't arrest people who do drugs, give them help. Just consider making this shit legal, no matter what it does. If you make it illegal then people will acquire it through illegal means. This bullshit is ridiculous. And weed? It's just a fucking plant. I never did or plan on doing drugs but there is still no point to place restrictions on what people can do to get high. If you ban any drug like this, people will make their own. It's kind of like if you banned knives (would never happen but this is an example); if you do that, people will then get pencils, sharp-as-fuck sticks, forks, butter knives, etc. to stab people. It's dumb logic to think that if you ban something then people will not find a way to circumvent it.
[QUOTE]The synthetic weed, known as "K2" or "spice" and generally sold in head shops, is popular among police officers, members of the military and others looking to avoid failing a drug test, said one hemp store owner who sells the product. The high from marijuana is created by its main active ingredient THC, but also by the plant's several dozen poorly understood cannabinoids. The DEA had banned any drug containing natural or synthetic THC, but has not addressed the cannabinoids. K2 has been legal because it uses synthetic versions of the cannabinoids rather than THC; because drug tests look for THC, users could smoke spice and not get caught by supervisors. But because it doesn't include THC, it gives users a different, lesser high than real pot. Because it has not been carefully studied, [b]there is no certainty over whether it is as safe as marijuana[/b]. It is often labeled as incense and contains warnings against human consumption. Just as the threatened ban on the caffeinated booze drink Four Loko caused a run on convenience stores, the DEA's announcement about K2's impending ban threatens to send hordes of consumers to water pipe outposts, as users will have 30 days to hoard the fake drug before the ban goes into place. "A Notice of Intent to Temporarily Control was published in the Federal Register today to alert the public to this action," the DEA announced in a statement. "After no fewer than 30 days, DEA will publish in the Federal Register a Final Rule to Temporarily Control these chemicals for at least 12 months with the possibility of a six-month extension. They will be designated as Schedule I substances, the most restrictive category, which is reserved for unsafe, highly abused substances with no medical usage." [b]A Schedule I listing would put it in a more restrictive category than cocaine.[/b][/QUOTE] WHAT THE FUCK /caps
[QUOTE=Biotoxsin;26315905]One persons a dumbass so it's everyone's fault? When you use a needle, you always use a fresh one you've bought yourself no matter the drug. Supermarkets here sell them for insulin[/QUOTE] congratulations the joke went completely over your head
Wow what the fucking fuck. Whatever i go with the regular illegal type anyways
I don't do drugs but I don't think that the illegal drugs we have now should be illegal. Sell them at pharmacies over the counter and suddenly it's less cool to be a crackhead.
Fuck, I had plans climbing K2. :saddowns:
[QUOTE=Extroll;26319507]I don't do drugs but I don't think that the illegal drugs we have now should be illegal. Sell them at pharmacies over the counter and suddenly it's less cool to be a crackhead.[/QUOTE]Besides that, think about how much healthier it would make people. For example, the biggest issue with ecstasy is most of the time when you buy pills, it isn't pure. Sometimes it's cut with really bad stuff, and sometimes it isn't even ecstasy at all.
They're just now getting on top of a civilian ban? It's use has been banned for months in the U.S. Military. I know offhand a few soldiers from my last unit that got kicked out for getting caught using it.
[QUOTE=|FlapJack|;26310676]That's why I said legalising weed is probably a good idea - it's relatively harmless compared to K2. K2 should be illegal, average weed should be legal. I never said it would. Learn to read.[/QUOTE] why should K2 be illegal? don't tell me "it's dangerous it makes you crazy" or something dumb like that because we sell perfectly legal substances that kill hundreds of thousands per year.
K2 is boss for a legal substitute. And no, it's not more expensive. weed = $10/g, k2 = $20/6g (or 2 3g bags). You only need one k2 bag to roll 2 fat ass blunts, even Games. It may not be as good as weed but come on now, weed is weed.
[QUOTE=Gmonkeyv9;26322993]K2 is boss for a legal substitute. And no, it's not more expensive. weed = $10/g, k2 = $20/6g (or 2 3g bags). You only need one k2 bag to roll 2 fat ass blunts, even Games. It may not be as good as weed but come on now, weed is weed.[/QUOTE] But weed isn't just weed. I can't stand smoking shwag, always gives me a nasty headache.
[QUOTE=Biotoxsin;26323031]But weed isn't just weed. I can't stand smoking shwag, always gives me a nasty headache.[/QUOTE] Weed breaks down into a lot of different things, weed really isn't just weed. And mexican weed sucks, smoke some good ol' BC Bud my friend.
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