7th-grader suspended for using airsoft gun in own front yard - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;42291412]Eventually you gonna do this [img]http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/1127993/121908271/stock-photo-female-teen-hand-shows-angle-isolated-on-white-121908271.jpg[/img] and end up kicked out of school.[/QUOTE] Yea, like that'll ever- [url]http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2013/01/15/parents-furious-after-young-boys-suspended-after-playing-with-imaginary-weapon/[/url] Oh...

I've always regarded grade school to be something a little worse than a prison. They have too much control over kid's lives IMO.

This is just ridiculous, I live less than 1 minute from my old high school and can even see it from my front yard. I used to have full on wars in my front yard with friends and even walk down the sidewalk armed to the teeth to get the some nearby woods for some ctf. Of course this was all before all the movie/school/public shootings really started becoming a large media explosion. I'm a bit to weary to do that now, back then worst we ever had was when a car pulled into a neighborhood behind us, stopped about 100 feet away, turned around and left and no less than 5 minutes later we heard a few sirens circling the woods we were in. They never found us but it still scared the shit out of me.

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;42291412]Eventually you gonna do this [img]http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/1127993/121908271/stock-photo-female-teen-hand-shows-angle-isolated-on-white-121908271.jpg[/img] and end up kicked out of school.[/QUOTE] Actually I know a kid who was suspended for that.. My neighbor's kid was suspended for bringing a "hand gun" heh heh. but seriously he was suspended making his hand form a gun with some other kids on the playground.

Kids like to pretend to shoot each other, its normal. When I was younger almost every recess involved an imaginary shootout. People are getting way too sensitive. Nobody questions (real) guns where I live, my neighbors target shoot all the time. Even when I used to live near a pretty big city nobody complained about guns unless they were shot off at night. So the thought of airsoft guns causing this much trouble surprises me.

[QUOTE=http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/23/7th-grader-suspended-using-airsoft-gun-his-own-front yard"] " A concerned neighbor called 911 to report the incident." [/QUOTE] Oh, I guess they made a typo. I think what they meant to say was "A dumb bitch"

[QUOTE=Jamie1992GSC;42292182]I guess having a silencer on it adds to ordeal as it sounds like it could be a real silenced weapon. [t]http://puu.sh/4z1fw.JPG[/t] One of my RIF's in question. I guess from a distance it could seem quite real, given a silencer and the pop/hiss gas blowbacks give off.[/QUOTE] Here we see a specimen of someone who has never shot a real gun in his life, let alone a supressed one. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYJkfwpiCtw[/media] If your airsoft pistol sounds ANYTHING like this in an area with no sound bounce I'll be surprised.

[QUOTE=proch;42292206]With people like ViralHatred there's no wonder people call Great Britain a Police state/Nanny government.[/QUOTE] I'm an American and I think doing anything with an airsoft gun in public (and your front yard is very public) is extremely foolish and could result in a police response in any country. A little bit of orange on the tip of a gun is often not visible, so unless the whole thing is brightly colored like most toy guns are it could be mistaken for a firearm. This case is stupid because it essentially boils down to 'seeing kids play with pretend guns makes me uncomfortable so it should be banned', but it's hardly 'police state' to say that running around in public with a replica firearm is a real dumb idea in general. [QUOTE=Crimor;42293247]Here we see a specimen of someone who has never shot a real gun in his life, let alone a supressed one.[/QUOTE] Do you think the average person walking down the street knows the difference, or will stick around to be educated on the subject before calling the police?

I've only ever shot a .22 So the idea of what could be close to my idea of a silenced weapon is indeed wrong. My point however stands as someone who ALSO does not understand the difference would deem it the same way as I did. Going off of incorrect information due to a lack of first hand knowledge.

What's next? Kid got banned from the country for saying the word "gun"?

I heard those "toys" can be converted into deadly machine guns, why the fuck was a kid even allowed to handle one?

[QUOTE=silentjubjub;42293098]I've always regarded grade school to be something a little worse than a prison. They have too much control over kid's lives IMO.[/QUOTE] Technically, it IS worse than prison. Minimum sentence of over a decade, required work every single day, and the agony of getting to go home every day and see what life "on the outside" is like for a brief few hours before sleeping and returning to the building. Then again, I thoroughly enjoy making silly comparisons.

What next banning air soft guns? :v:

[QUOTE=squids_eye;42291828]Then they shouldn't be surprised if they get in trouble. Expelling the kid from school is ridiculous and even getting the cops involved is too far but if you are going to play with an airsoft gun, do it in the backyard, not the front. [editline]24th September 2013[/editline] What is to stop someone sticking a bit of orange on the front of a real gun? I'm not saying a kid would ever do it, but I'm pretty sure that is the reasoning behind only have two toned airsoft guns.[/QUOTE] What's to stop me from painting my m16 candy stripe pink and blue?

up next, schoolchild refused entry on account of him wanting to learn [editline]24th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=meatwad253;42294923]What next banning air soft guns? :v:[/QUOTE] the ATF confirmed airsoft guns can be easily converted into deadly deadly assault riffles [editline]24th September 2013[/editline] [video=youtube;Y2sWiZ8BizI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2sWiZ8BizI[/video]

[QUOTE=ViralHatred;42291741]Then you should know better. You should already be aware that wielding imitation firearms in public is an offence under the Firearms Act 1968 (offence to carry firearm in public place) and the definition of firearm was expanded in the Anti-social Behaviour Act 2003 to include Imitation Firearms which was later further defined in the Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006. Just because you're in your front garden does not mean a member of the public will not see you and call the police, and if the police get called and you don't have a two tone you're going to have to produce your Site Membership details so they can confirm your UKARA. And if you can't then you're going to be in trouble.[/QUOTE] Said imitation firearm has to be at least to a certain extent indistinguishable from a real firearm or set up in suhc a way that it's indistinguishable. A kid running around with a plastic gun with a big fat red rubber tip (or orange tip on the gun) would be exempt from this, as such a firearm is easily distinguishable as a non real firearm. Imitation firearms have to be able to be confused.

[QUOTE=Greenen72;42294360]I heard those "toys" can be converted into deadly machine guns, why the fuck was a kid even allowed to handle one?[/QUOTE] no that's just factually wrong and you're not the brightest for believing it. it literally takes the lower receiver of an entire gun to make it work, and then, what the fuck is the point of using a plastic barrel system? [editline]24th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=ViralHatred;42291905]Fails to take note of the new provisions introduced under the Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006. Site was last updated in 2005 and is therefore currently inaccurate.[/QUOTE] Laws that are put in place are not validated by simply being laws. there should be an argument over the validity of such laws. of which there is none but to create a culture of fear.

[QUOTE=Flapadar;42291554]A similar thing happened when I was ~16 - couple of friends and myself were having a light game of airsoft in my friend's back garden, some retired old man who used to be in the army called the police. Armed response unit was half way there when the local police realised it was airsoft. [editline].[/editline] UK not France before people look at Flagdog.[/QUOTE] Would have thought that someone who has been in the army knows that real guns don't go *plop* when you shoot them.

Solution is to round up all the idiots, and send them to work camps

[QUOTE=Greenen72;42294360]I heard those "toys" can be converted into deadly machine guns, why the fuck was a kid even allowed to handle one?[/QUOTE] Because they're fun and kids probably won't be doing that.

[QUOTE=Sunday_Roast;42296126]Would have thought that someone who has been in the army knows that real guns don't go *plop* when you shoot them.[/QUOTE] He was (supposedly) in a block of flats a good distance away, he wouldn't have heard shit. He shouldn't have seen shit unless he was a perv either (he'd need to be looking at young boys through binoculars to see we had guns)

[QUOTE=ViralHatred;42291459]He's a fucking idiot for airsofting in his front yard in the first place. If you're going to airsoft do it in your back yard or at least get permission from your neighbours to do it and make sure they're comfortable with it. You wouldn't see an airsofter here in the UK dare do it in their front garden.[/QUOTE] I feel uncomfortable that you're having a catch in your yard, you should have asked my permission first.

nobody else is going to say it? it's because he's a poor black kid in a rich white town and some soccer mom complained.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;42295611]no that's just factually wrong and you're not the brightest for believing it. it literally takes the lower receiver of an entire gun to make it work, and then, what the fuck is the point of using a plastic barrel system?[/QUOTE] Thanks for the ad hominem, and I'm pretty sure you need to do some research before posting something so misleading as that. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2sWiZ8BizI[/media] As said by this very intelligent special agent for the ATF, any airsoft pistol can be turned into a machine gun. The single reason every gangster in this country doesn't turn every airsoft gun into deadly weapons (which is a misnomer, since airsoft guns kill millions every year in the middle east) is that it can only fire one shot before it entirely blows up in your hands. And I don't know about you, but I'm pretty sure that I don't want to walk around knowing that I was responsible for a man's death, when he tried to gun me down with an airsoft machinegun and bled to death from the plastic shards. That being said, I don't want to ban airsoft guns, just make them harder to get (so children or criminals can't get any), and eventually phase them out for airsoft tasers, as well as other assorted less-than-less-than-lethal airsoft weapons.

-oh snip i see-

[QUOTE=ViralHatred;42291459]He's a fucking idiot for airsofting in his front yard in the first place. If you're going to airsoft do it in your back yard or at least get permission from your neighbours to do it and make sure they're comfortable with it. You wouldn't see an airsofter here in the UK dare do it in their front garden.[/QUOTE] Everyone is dumbing this guy, but it's a pretty core concept when it comes to working with fake guns like these. He has an orange tip but you want to take every precaution if you're going to bother using it in your front yard. Not everyone has a back yard, but yeah, telling your neighbors is a pretty good idea. He doesn't deserve suspension and the neighbor who called in so sure of themself that it was real was stupid. But this is not untrue.

The really shouldn't have been playing with them in front of their house. Even though they aren't real guns, they aren't quite toys. Toy guns don't require you to be 18 to buy them, and airsoft guns do. They shoot projectiles that can be potentially harmful. It was quite stupid that the neighbor called 911, and that the kids are receiving consequences from their school, but parents shouldn't give their kids airsoft guns if they aren't going to make sure that they use them properly and in places where it is okay to use them. I got a bunch of springers for my nephew and I made damn sure that he knew when and where its okay to use them, and the general rules of using firearms. Anyways bring the boxes. Just remember its because of events like these that airsoft regulations are so strict.

[QUOTE=Greenen72;42296614]Thanks for the ad hominem, and I'm pretty sure you need to do some research before posting something so misleading as that. As said by this very intelligent special agent for the ATF, any airsoft pistol can be turned into a machine gun. The single reason every gangster in this country doesn't turn every airsoft gun into deadly weapons (which is a misnomer, since airsoft guns kill millions every year in the middle east) is that it can only fire one shot before it entirely blows up in your hands. And I don't know about you, but I'm pretty sure that I don't want to walk around knowing that I was responsible for a man's death, when he tried to gun me down with an airsoft machinegun and bled to death from the plastic shards. That being said, I don't want to ban airsoft guns, just make them harder to get (so children or criminals can't get any), and eventually phase them out for airsoft tasers, as well as other assorted less-than-less-than-lethal airsoft weapons.[/QUOTE] What the fuck is an airsoft taser. The material needed to convert an airsoft gun to an actual gun is already a firearm. Seriously you need a barrel and the receiver for it to even fire without it simply blowing up and at that point you obviously already owned a firearm they you butchered to turn your airsoft gun into a firearm... [editline]24th September 2013[/editline] nice leg pulling btw

[QUOTE=3picFail;42296827][b]but parents shouldn't give their kids airsoft guns if they aren't going to make sure that they use them properly and in places where it is okay to use them.[/b] [/QUOTE] You mean like, perchance, outside the parent's house, in per-say, THEIR FRONT YARD? Where the parent can WATCH the child closely and make sure they aren't shooting anything? How the [I]fuck[/I] is it irresponsable to allow your child to go out into your own front yard, which by the way is your own personal property here in the US, and allow them to play? Do you even have a child of your own? Imagine that they pointed a finger at another kid and school and got fucking expelled. Would you even begin to fight for such an outright stupid decision by the schoolboard? Honesty. [QUOTE=Greenen72;42296614]As said by this very intelligent special agent for the ATF, any airsoft pistol can be turned into a machine gun. The single reason every gangster in this country doesn't turn every airsoft gun into deadly weapons (which is a misnomer, since airsoft guns kill millions every year in the middle east) is that it can only fire one shot before it entirely blows up in your hands.[/QUOTE] Please be sarcasm, please be sarcasm, please be sarcasm.

[QUOTE=TheTalon;42291536]Already happens in the US, not with just hand gestures either. Hello Kitty toys that shoot bubbles, and a chicken nugget in another case, a poptart in another. Too many flakey Americans now days. Oh, 911? Please send the police, there's boys pointing guns at each other in their yard. What? No they aren't real guns they're toys, send help anyway. Now the school's involved and saying Oh no, we're expelling you. Where the fuck are the nuts in this country? Doesn't anyone have a spine or common sense anymore?[/QUOTE] Oh my god please don't talk about the poptart incident. That day when I find out that a kid got suspended over a fucking poptart: [url]http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1031376/thumbs/o-POP-TART-GUN-facebook.jpg[/url] I swear my IQ dropped trying to comprehend those school staff's reasoning.