Galaxy s7 pretty much unrootable - Polidicks

[QUOTE=AlexGT;49929190]fuck I just bought an S7 today. What does this mean as far as customization options go? All I've really been interested in is changing outward cosmetics. Themes seem kind of restrictive.[/QUOTE] You should just be able to install apex or nova launcher if that's all you want

[QUOTE=AlexGT;49929190]fuck I just bought an S7 today. What does this mean as far as customization options go? All I've really been interested in is changing outward cosmetics. Themes seem kind of restrictive.[/QUOTE] Pretty much WYSIWYG. Standard Android customizations, like changing homescreen, icons text you know the drill. You still have all the customization that the platform provides you. You should also have the ability to disable non-essential apps and other tomfoolery on your phone. But anything that makes any hard adjustments to the shell, tweaks the build.conf, xposed and so on, it's not going to happen for the time being. But the phone will be rooted. Its bound to happen, unless the development community simply boycotts Samsung.

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;49929093]In addition to getting rid of touchwiz, it's just nice to get rid of the google/samsung bloat and add some additional features. My friend bought one of these today hoping to root it, RIP for him. They'll probably find an exploit eventually. Can't expect there to be many roms available though.[/QUOTE] Rooting under warranty is the stupidest shit I've read so far in this thread. Play it safe and do it after the warranty expires.

[QUOTE=Code3Response;49929250]Rooting under warranty is the stupidest shit I've read so far in this thread. Play it safe and do it after the warranty expires.[/QUOTE] Oh you Americans. Rooting a phone would not nor could not void the warranty in Australia.

[QUOTE=Code3Response;49929250]Rooting under warranty is the stupidest shit I've read so far in this thread. Play it safe and do it after the warranty expires.[/QUOTE] The counter can be reset if you really needed to bring it in. It's also really hard to brick your phone with flashing nowadays so it's not that bad. Even if you couldn't, the things that typically go wrong with phones that require them to be brought in can be fixed yourself for pretty cheap so w/e.

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;49929297]The counter can be reset if you really needed to bring it in. It's also really hard to brick your phone with flashing nowadays so it's not that bad.[/QUOTE] Afaik, the counter wasn't resettable on the S5 or S6, plus there was an e-fuse which no one figured out how to set back on the S6.

[QUOTE=Code3Response;49929250]Rooting under warranty is the stupidest shit I've read so far in this thread. Play it safe and do it after the warranty expires.[/QUOTE] This is actually the most misinformed thing I've read so far in this thread. Hard bricks are hard to encounter, and if you did manage to do that, you clearly shouldn't be undertaking the task of rooting/flashing. To flash back to a factory original image is quite simple. All you need is the OEM flash util, the proper driver, and a USB cable. Also the right image for your phone. Come back in 30minutes, and the thing is right as rain. I also never use the warranty system. It usually only covers defects that are not your fault. IE: You dropped it and it shattered the screen. That voids your warranty too. The insurance program covers everything. I've sent in many phones because $100 was cheaper than a new screen, or some other package in the device. Did my carrier ever complain that it was rooted, flashed and unlocked? Nope. They never even asked me.

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;49929237]You should just be able to install apex or nova launcher if that's all you want[/QUOTE] Ah, yeah I've never been much of a person who tinkers with everything as far as changing the way phones work. Seems like exactly what I'm looking for, thanks [QUOTE=Richard Simmons;49929244]Pretty much WYSIWYG. Standard Android customizations, like changing homescreen, icons text you know the drill. You still have all the customization that the platform provides you. You should also have the ability to disable non-essential apps and other tomfoolery on your phone. But anything that makes any hard adjustments to the shell, tweaks the build.conf, xposed and so on, it's not going to happen for the time being. But the phone will be rooted. Its bound to happen, unless the development community simply boycotts Samsung.[/QUOTE] So I'd assume, people found a way to jailbreak iPhones with the incredibly tight iOS 8-9 after a ton of trial and error. Hope they find an easy way to do it with the S7, seeing as it pretty much corrected everything the S6 failed to do (battery especially)

I've never really seen a reason to root your device if you're on Android. You already have so much freedom anyway. Only reason I'd root my S7 would be to get rid of the hideous Samsung emojis.

I only really root for adblocking and DriveDroid, personally. As of Lollipop and newer, Android encompasses most of my personal customization and tweaking I used to do anyway.

Unrootable? I don't trust like that!

[QUOTE=Code3Response;49929250]Rooting under warranty is the stupidest shit I've read so far in this thread. Play it safe and do it after the warranty expires.[/QUOTE] I got pretty lucky with HTC all things considered. I had to return my M7 because of the camera issues but I had flashed the GPE rom on there already. (Sense really sucked back then, it's good now.) So I sent it in anyway because worst case they would send it back with a refusal statement, but to my surprise they accepted it and gave me a brand new one instead. I attribute it to the nice note I left in the box and some tasty hard candy for whatever tech opened it up. I chose hard candy because no one wants to open a box with melted crap everywhere. Gotta love the swedish fish theory. [QUOTE=Coyoteze;49929399]I've never really seen a reason to root your device if you're on Android. You already have so much freedom anyway. Only reason I'd root my S7 would be to get rid of the hideous Samsung emojis.[/QUOTE] Some people like the extra control it provides them and that's already reason enough to be honest. I personally don't anymore because all I buy are Nexus devices at this point and they don't need any tinkering besides Nova Launcher for myself at least.

[QUOTE=Coyoteze;49929399]I've never really seen a reason to root your device if you're on Android. You already have so much freedom anyway. Only reason I'd root my S7 would be to get rid of the hideous Samsung emojis.[/QUOTE] This bad boy is linux in a pocket throw busybox onto it and whatnot, giving juicessh root access allows me to run commands on the phone outside of the limitations applications have, throw in other binaries and whatnot Additionally with xposed you can modify an application before during boot, proper permission manager for older versions, removing ads / background playback on youtube, or my personal favourite, gravitybox, a module that's pretty overkill [editline]14th March 2016[/editline] Jailed access is for people who really just want to use a smartphone as a smartphone

[QUOTE=Scratch.;49929625]Jailed access is for people who really just want to use a smartphone as a smartphone[/QUOTE] Yeah pretty much. I've never rooted a phone in my life, I just don't see the need myself.

[QUOTE=Scratch.;49929625] Jailed access is for people who really just want to use a smartphone as a smartphone[/QUOTE] Root/Jailbreaking has always been something for power users and higher. A standard user just wants the phone for what it is marketed as. For anyone else, we want to use the phone for what it actually is. A tiny computer that you can shove into your pocket. Technology is neat.

In the past, I had to root my HTC Legend, Galaxy S and HTC Incredible S to get more performance out of the device since the stock ROMs were either limited in internal storage space, Android version or overall performance. With my current S4 I really needed to get the fuck away from TouchWiz since it is hideous.

That's dumb, I love Galaxy phones but making them unrootable kills them for me. I love the extra features and other fun stuff I get from rooting, especially the ability to debloat the bloody things. Guess I'm gonna be going with a Moto or Nexus instead as a replacement to my S5.

Well, not getting I then. I need an adblocker on 4g since I have limited bandwidth which ads have made me go over before.

[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;49928546]It's controversial because of how much I tell people about it but it's the Nokia N9 It also runs Source SDK and everything made in every platform ever, Samsung copied the N9 heavily in the S7 and they should've copied what makes it great[/QUOTE] The N9 and the N900 set a standard in certain areas that wont be matched for a long time, it's almost not worth comparing current phones to them.

[QUOTE=redBadger;49928778]if you used a Samsung device in the last year you'd know that touchwiz isn't bad anymore at all[/QUOTE] I have an s6 I re-iterate, touchwiz is really, really, really bad.

Well, as someone who loves flashing new roms every now and again this eliminates the S7 from the list of phones I was thinking about for my upcoming upgrade.

verizon s4's have their bootloader locked too shit sucks [editline]14th March 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Coyoteze;49929399]I've never really seen a reason to root your device if you're on Android. You already have so much freedom anyway. Only reason I'd root my S7 would be to get rid of the hideous Samsung emojis.[/QUOTE] xposed to unshitify apps debloat get rid of touchwhiz have your computer the way YOU want it

I used to root and fuck with everything cause I bought cheap, slow phones. I never rooted my moto G and I don't plan to root my 5X unless they break my camera app that makes 240FPS work. But fuck the extreme lengths carriers go to lock up phones. A friend of mine has a neat but stupid slow Droid R2D2 and because it has the most recent OTA update the bootloader is pretty much fort knox. It's barely usable on the stock ROM but it can't be changed.

Idk what you guys are saying that root is for power users, here in spain most of my non-tech friends know what rooting is and want to have it.

[QUOTE=Code3Response;49929250]Rooting under warranty is the stupidest shit I've read so far in this thread. Play it safe and do it after the warranty expires.[/QUOTE] People also warned about this for iPhone but if you just reset it back to iOS stock after it has a crack the screen you are good to go. But if its all broken then yeah..

[QUOTE=phygon;49928625]Do ROMs accept whitespace /garbage characters in the header of the file? If so, couldn't you bruteforce it until the keys match, like people do to fake other certs?[/QUOTE] That's very difficult with modern hash algorithms, SHA-1 is theoretically broken but it's still slow and expensive to find collisions, SHA-2 has no known collision attacks

So what are the best phones to have if you want to root it?

[QUOTE=Dantz Bolrew;49930835]So what are the best phones to have if you want to root it?[/QUOTE] Google nexus is the most developer friendly and works on all carriers. I'm never going back to Samsung unless they do a complete 360 and start selling devices that work on every carrier and are unlocked like the nexus phones. Personally I'm waiting for the next nexus phone from Google.

[QUOTE=Code3Response;49929250]Rooting under warranty is the stupidest shit I've read so far in this thread. Play it safe and do it after the warranty expires.[/QUOTE] Fuck the warranty. They'll find a way to not honor it regardless of whether you root it or not.[QUOTE=Coyoteze;49929399]I've never really seen a reason to root your device if you're on Android. You already have so much freedom anyway. Only reason I'd root my S7 would be to get rid of the hideous Samsung emojis.[/QUOTE] Ad Blockers need rooted OSs to function last I checked.

[QUOTE=wewt!;49929960]The N9 and the N900 set a standard in certain areas that wont be matched for a long time, it's almost not worth comparing current phones to them.[/QUOTE] Why? Because I really like the N9 but WP is awful.