[QUOTE=Dantz Bolrew;49930835]So what are the best phones to have if you want to root it?[/QUOTE]
For me, the Nexus line has always been wonderful to unlock and root but that's pretty much the only phone I've ever owned. Still on my Nexus 5.
[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;49928424]Then don't support them with your pocket, it's been long known that Google and American Carriers want to lock their ecosystem as much as they can, my phone has superuser access easily accessible and supported by the manufacturer[/QUOTE]
How does Google, developers and promoters of the world's most popular open source mobile platform, lock it's platform down?
From experience with my S7 edge, TouchWiz, while shit, is nowhere near as bad as on a s2 or s3. There is bloatware, but it's easily disabled. I won't lie and say it's the best phone ever, though. The battery drain is horrible unless you tweak the factory running apps, but what else is new?
[QUOTE=phygon;49930014]I have an s6
I re-iterate, touchwiz is really, really, really bad.[/QUOTE]
How? You're just hating it to hate it. It's clean and attractive and I've found no issues whatsoever
I regret rooting my Nexus 4. Initially, I thought it was cool how you could edit all the settings and use themes and what not. At the end of the day though, I only use my phone to browse the web and text, so it was pretty much pointless. Now I have a bunch of minor issues with it, and some major ones, like random freezes and reboots.
How are the moto phones? I saw them mentioned in the thread a couple times and some of them seem pretty inexpensive for an unlocked one.
Samsung sucks, im gonna go with the LG modular phone for my next pocket pc
Or should I bring my questions to another thread, I do have a few more related to cell phones.
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My merge
[QUOTE=MightyLOLZOR;49931485]I regret rooting my Nexus 4. Initially, I thought it was cool how you could edit all the settings and use themes and what not. At the end of the day though, I only use my phone to browse the web and text, so it was pretty much pointless. Now I have a bunch of minor issues with it, and some major ones, like random freezes and reboots.[/QUOTE]
You can just un-root it, though I don't see why rooting it would cause any random freezes or reboots at all.
[QUOTE=redBadger;49931382]How? You're just hating it to hate it. It's clean and attractive and I've found no issues whatsoever[/QUOTE]
"I have an opinion so your opinion is wrong" is basically what you just said.
My mom stole my Nexus 5 after I got my LG G4. Super fucking pissed because I loved that thing for tinkering and throwing whatever the fuck I wanted on it. Since I'm Canadian, the root stuff doesn't work with my model version
[QUOTE=Scratch.;49929625]This bad boy is linux in a pocket
throw busybox onto it and whatnot, giving juicessh root access allows me to run commands on the phone outside of the limitations applications have, throw in other binaries and whatnot
Additionally with xposed you can modify an application before during boot, proper permission manager for older versions, removing ads / background playback on youtube, or my personal favourite, gravitybox, a module that's pretty overkill
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Jailed access is for people who really just want to use a smartphone as a smartphone[/QUOTE]
Pretty much this. Having a nearly fully functional linux distro in my pocket is invaluable for my job. I can also make battery life much better than stock, block ads, fully customize it to look exactly how I want, reassign button functionality, etc.
[QUOTE=FetusFondler;49931613]You can just un-root it, though I don't see why rooting it would cause any random freezes or reboots at all.[/QUOTE]
If you tweak things like a total guy it can make things a bit less stable than you'd like. My Nexus 4 has been unrooted for a while as last time I rooted it the urge to tweak the power manager led to some weird restarts.
Now it just restarts because Snapchat can't be fucked to fix a different power manager related bug that the N4 suffered for a while.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;49929336]Afaik, the counter wasn't resettable on the S5 or S6, plus there was an e-fuse which no one figured out how to set back on the S6.[/QUOTE]
The e-fuse was the counter, or more specifically the knox flag, which literally burns in, so unless you replace the e-fuse chip it stays that way.
The S5 was the last viable phone for me regarding Samsung with it's exchangeable battery and Micro-SD card slot, they get relatively expensive with many features I rarely ever use.
Next phone is gonna be a Nexus or a similar powerful as well as root-friendly phone.
[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;49930924]Why?
Because I really like the N9 but WP is awful.[/QUOTE]
Well,
-fantastic swipe based ui, they didn't just move the keys to the touchscreen like android (N9), it really only needed the volume keys and the power button
-true multitasking (N9 and N900)
-linux based OS with access to xterminal, allowing the same level of control as with any linux based pc (N9 and N900)
-pressure sensitive touchscreen, I installed mypaint and did pc level illustrations with it (N900)
-fucking double tap to unlock screen years before the competition (N9)
What they lacked was competitive hardware, though for their time they were still more than solid, especially the N9's unibody which was actually made for the meego OS and later had WP shoehorned into it for the first Lumia phone. The N9 had a critical reception that had it go toe to toe with the iPhone, but Nokia canned meego and the N9 was released as an afterthought, with no successor being confirmed before it was even released. The team which designed it left Nokia and formed Jolla, with MeeGo turning into the Sailfish OS.
There, sorry for the TL;DR
[QUOTE=redBadger;49931382]How? You're just hating it to hate it. It's clean and attractive and I've found no issues whatsoever[/QUOTE]
I hate it because it looks like crap, is full of bloatware, and it drains my battery. Plus, it slows down a lot of stuff resulting in extremely bad system hangs when it'd having a bad day
I really haven't figured out why people dislike TouchWiz.
I've had the S2, S3, now S4 Active.
All 3 have been pretty great. I've messed with Nova before, but it wasn't faster and the layouts never felt right.
I do have an LG G2, I consider the UI on that worse than any Touchwiz I have ever tried.
[QUOTE=AkujiTheSniper;49928952]Since my At&T Galaxy S5 with version 5.1.1 can't be rooted I had to settle with Nova Launcher, which kicks Touchwiz to the curb.
Touchwiz is a mess. [airhorns][/QUOTE]
I just rooted my new s5 a few days ago. downgrade to an older version of android, use towelroot, and then flash a custom rom with a new android version
[QUOTE=FordLord;49933141]I really haven't figured out why people dislike TouchWiz.
I've had the S2, S3, now S4 Active.
All 3 have been pretty great. I've messed with Nova before, but it wasn't faster and the layouts never felt right.
I do have an LG G2, I consider the UI on that worse than any Touchwiz I have ever tried.[/QUOTE]
If you're a typical end user, you may not have a problem with it. If you're just texting, using some social media applications, some mobile games, web browsing and email, you're probably not going to have an issue til you get later on in the phones life. Seeing you went from an S2, S3, S4Active, I am starting to assume you update your phone every year. Which means you don't run into Samsungs craptactular OTA's, and the OS degradation caused by the overbloating of apps, or cache/trash.
I am surprised everyone here thinks rooting is just some silly thing you do so you can be a end user whos "with the times". And its something you simply do not need it. Because you can disable the bloat apps or whatever. No one is mentioning the CIQ packages that you can find attached to the android system. Or other CARRIER installed spyware for "analyitics and marketing" bullshit.
And if anyone thinks this movement for the S6 to be "unrootable" is done by samsung, you're absolutely fucking nuts. This is all the carrier influence on the phone. Even if you buy an unsubsidized (AKA: fullprice) from the carriers store, you still get their bullshit lockdowns.
Like look at my predicament right now. I have a LG V10 on AT&T (H900). 100% locked down. Even the OEM unlock in developer options does jackshit. AT&T is infamous and notorious for lockouts. They also love CIQ, and prefer you not to get rid of it. Now you can look at the LG V10 for TMO (H901) or the V10 for Verizon (VS990). All rootable, all flashable. I think stumproot works for them.
Also, AT&T locked out the hidden menu activity on the H900 because they're a bunch of fucks.
Honestly, If i wanted to pay full price for a phone, I would go with an International, GPE or Developer edition of a phone. But I'm not going to pay $900 for a cellphone because im cheap. But if you want root friendly flagship phones that are rooted/unlocked out of the box? Thats where you go. Do NOT buy from any carrier directly. AT&T is a hack and a joke on their lockouts.
[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;49934224]If you're a typical end user, you may not have a problem with it. If you're just texting, using some social media applications, some mobile games, web browsing and email, you're probably not going to have an issue til you get later on in the phones life. Seeing you went from an S2, S3, S4Active, I am starting to assume you update your phone every year. Which means you don't run into Samsungs craptactular OTA's, and the OS degradation caused by the overbloating of apps, or cache/trash.
I am surprised everyone here thinks rooting is just some silly thing you do so you can be a end user whos "with the times". And its something you simply do not need it. Because you can disable the bloat apps or whatever. No one is mentioning the CIQ packages that you can find attached to the android system. Or other CARRIER installed spyware for "analyitics and marketing" bullshit.
And if anyone thinks this movement for the S6 to be "unrootable" is done by samsung, you're absolutely fucking nuts. This is all the carrier influence on the phone. Even if you buy an unsubsidized (AKA: fullprice) from the carriers store, you still get their bullshit lockdowns.
Like look at my predicament right now. I have a LG V10 on AT&T (H900). 100% locked down. Even the OEM unlock in developer options does jackshit. AT&T is infamous and notorious for lockouts. They also love CIQ, and prefer you not to get rid of it. Now you can look at the LG V10 for TMO (H901) or the V10 for Verizon (VS990). All rootable, all flashable. I think stumproot works for them.
Also, AT&T locked out the hidden menu activity on the H900 because they're a bunch of fucks.
Honestly, If i wanted to pay full price for a phone, I would go with an International, GPE or Developer edition of a phone. But I'm not going to pay $900 for a cellphone because im cheap. But if you want root friendly flagship phones that are rooted/unlocked out of the box? Thats where you go. Do NOT buy from any carrier directly. AT&T is a hack and a joke on their lockouts.[/QUOTE]
I upgrade sporadically, whenever I find a good deal on a newer one. Sometimes 6 months, sometimes 1.5 years.
I do the usual things, along with picture and video editing. All the phones were rooted and don't recieve OTA updates.
I don't bloat the system or let cache build up too much. I remove factory bloatware, don't run the fancy sensors, etc.
Based on what you say anyways, most of the TouchWiz hate is from user caused errors to some degree, along with user preventable errors.
imagine 10 years from now on, every mayor device will be locked
[QUOTE=Fourier;49953408]imagine 10 years from now on, every mayor device will be locked[/QUOTE]
Well I'd hope the mayor's device would be locked!
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