Vegans and Vegetarians butthurt over £5 note containing trace elements of tallow. - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Aztec;51457622]no it doesn't It might be possible but I don't have the ability to get 100% ethical eggs with 100% knowledge that they are 100% ethical no it doesn't[/QUOTE] fucking hell man if you went into greater detail with your posts beyond "no it doesn't" and "yes it is" there wouldn't be any issues here. [editline]1st December 2016[/editline] you are the reason why vegans have a bad name

[QUOTE=1legmidget;51457684]Next you'll tell me that cutting hair or nails is also killing an animal. That's true of even plants though. Plant harvesting kills animals. Loads of insects end up in combines. The same is true for rodents. There's obviously some threshold that isn't 100% "ethical" that you're ok with. You're either incapable of reasoning or trolling then. Take your pick.[/QUOTE] I don't know how to explain to you that harming animals effects their overall lifespan and lifestyle. I mean I can type it and you can read it but I doubt you will respond in a way that is anything other than trying to sneak another ethical dilemma past me.

[QUOTE=Cabbage;51455302]Honestly I'm a vegetarian and I couldn't give a shit about this. Vegetarianism shouldn't be anything more than a dietary choice, mostly [b]everything[/b] you come into contact with has had some kind of animal slaughter or testing of some kind at some point in its process. It's kind of inevitable. The only bit we have control over is what we eat.[/QUOTE] It being inevitable and unavoidable doesn't mean you should just give up and accept it. I don't think anybody here can deny that the meat industry is absolutely horrendous, and every small step to stop feeding that monstrosity will weaken it. Vegans don't expect an overnight revolution. Even if their efforts are futile, I still don't understand what is so damn bad about trying. Not a vegan by the way, though I've been one in the past.

[QUOTE=Aztec;51457725]I don't know how to explain to you that harming animals effects their overall lifespan and lifestyle.[/QUOTE] It's on you to demonstrate these animals have been harmed. Lifespan and lifestyle do not directly translate to killing. You're the one that backed yourself into this corner. [QUOTE]I mean I can type it and you can read it but I doubt you will respond in a way that is anything other than trying to sneak another ethical dilemma past me.[/QUOTE] Put up or shut up then. I've argued for a lot of nuance on ethical issues surrounding food from a lot of angles, both for and against animal products.

[QUOTE=1legmidget;51457802]It's on you to demonstrate these animals have been harmed. Lifespan and lifestyle do not directly translate to killing. You're the one that backed yourself into this corner.[/quote] I don't think I have to explain how an animal being killed is being killed. [quote] Put up or shut up then. I've argued for a lot of nuance on ethical issues surrounding food from a lot of angles, both for and against animal products.[/QUOTE] You've just been saying the same exact thing for 2 days with different animals in the place of the exact same argument lol. And you wonder why asking me the same questions repeatedly gets the same answer. Sorry they weren't the answers that you wanted I guess?

[QUOTE=Aztec;51457622]no it doesn't It might be possible but I don't have the ability to get 100% ethical eggs with 100% knowledge that they are 100% ethical no it doesn't[/QUOTE] This not how you argue, you're just straight up disagreeing with someone without refuting their points or even backing up your own points You're literally arguing without an argument, how do you expect people to understand your point of view or even be convinced to your side if you refuse to give any reasoning or rationale to what you believe in. You're just making vegans look bad, unless you are actually shitposting which wouldn't suprise me.

[QUOTE=Skerion;51456344]Exactly. It's not like the planet (let alone the universe) should give a shit about what a portion of a species thinks about who's the most important, especially when they have only conquered less than 1% of the universe, and also considering that there's probably other beings on other worlds that think differently on that. Hell, we've already got a shit ton of people of our own species that have entirely different mindsets from each other. Although to be fair, I'd imagine that at least some of the other animals have the goal to survive. For bees, it seems like its to pollinate the flowers.[/QUOTE] Well then I don't see the problem with believing humans are the most important thing on the planet if importance is a concept exclusive to humans.