• Asshole Father Updated Facebook Before He Stabbed His Two Year Old Daughter to Death
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[QUOTE=Gaza Pen Pal;29624762]I don't know, you have all these emotional words like brutally, vicious, and disgusting. They're not really looking at it from his point of view.[/QUOTE] Wow now everything you've said in previous threads make sense.
Fuck I am so pissed.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;29626581]Wow now everything you've said in previous threads make sense.[/QUOTE] He has a point. You shouldn't hand down sentences and craft laws based on emotion and irrationality.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;29626012]Arghhgh this makes me so logical!!! May the courts consult laws and reach an appropriate decision on this... this... ADULT MAN[/QUOTE] How can someone possibly do something so utterly TRANSGRESSIVE as VIOLATING SOMEONE'S RIGHT TO LIFE? He should be punished so commensurate to the crime it will make him a productive member of society, putting him in a position to understand the severity of and atone for his actions.
This is so depressing. That kid could've had a life and friends and been a productive member of society, but instead that fucker took it all from her.
He has the balls to stab a two year old child, but not to kill himself? What a fucking cunt.
gone killin brb lol
This man deserves to burn.
Thats just sad man..
He's not going to get a death penalty because Australia is more civilized then that. He should be put in jail (For a LONG time of coarse) and be offered re-rehabilitation services. [editline]5th May 2011[/editline] Also, i think your whole life in jail would be worse then the death penalty, but that would depend on the jail and what country.
What the fuck is wrong with people. It's either they were born sick minded, or weren't raised up properly.
[QUOTE=.:FoxOnFire:.;29629601]He's not going to get a death penalty because Australia is more civilized then that. He should be put in jail (For a LONG time of coarse) and be offered re-rehabilitation services. [editline]5th May 2011[/editline] Also, i think your whole life in jail would be worse then the death penalty, but that would depend on the jail and what country.[/QUOTE] Except killing someone is cheaper than giving them free food and shelter for the rest of their lives, and some people can't be rehabilitated.
[QUOTE=ducky5;29624293][img_thumb]http://fastcache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2011/05/sickbastardfacebookpostkill.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] I'm sorry, I really shouldn't, but I just can't take anything seriously with a picture like this.
What in the ever loving fuck?
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;29626695]How can someone possibly do something so utterly TRANSGRESSIVE as VIOLATING SOMEONE'S RIGHT TO LIFE? He should be punished so commensurate to the crime it will make him a productive member of society, putting him in a position to understand the severity of and atone for his actions.[/QUOTE] you monster
Whats his facebook profile :v: Poor kid...
We need to slowly bring him to the point of death. Then nurse him to full health right when he's an inch away. Repeat indefinitely.
I'm all for death penalty, and all other horrible punishments. Bastard thinks he can get away with stabbing a 2 year-old kid and letting her slowly die, and then goin al 'ooo look what she made me do I made a boo-boo!' 'My only goal was to ruin her life, the kids life, my families life but I care too much about my own life, please see and look at the nicer person inside!' No matter what you say, this guy deserves a severe punishment. Fucking bleeding hart teenagers never had this happen to their relatives, my 12 year old disabled niece was thrown off a bridge by her step-father because he thought it was too hard for HIM to live with. And then he went home like nothing happened. He got [B]6 years.[/B] Take a good look at that, because this is what you are asking society to become.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;29626695]How can someone possibly do something so utterly TRANSGRESSIVE as VIOLATING SOMEONE'S RIGHT TO LIFE? He should be punished so commensurate to the crime it will make him a productive member of society, putting him in a position to understand the severity of and atone for his actions.[/QUOTE] Put him in the total perspective vortex?
There should be a license for parenting.
Death sentence is a permanent answer to a temporary problem. [QUOTE=MendozaMan;29631016]I'm all for death penalty, and all other horrible punishments. Bastard thinks he can get away with stabbing a 2 year-old kid and letting her slowly die, and then goin al 'ooo look what she made me do I made a boo-boo!' 'My only goal was to ruin her life, the kids life, my families life but I care too much about my own life, please see and look at the nicer person inside!' No matter what you say, this guy deserves a severe punishment. [b]Fucking bleeding hart teenagers never had this happen to their relatives[/b], my 12 year old disabled niece was thrown off a bridge by her step-father because he thought it was too hard for HIM to live with. And then he went home like nothing happened. He got [B]6 years.[/B] Take a good look at that, because this is what you are asking society to become.[/QUOTE] That statement only proves the point that all you want is revenge.
[QUOTE=Rubs10;29631350]Death sentence is a permanent answer to a temporary problem. That statement only proves the point that all you want is revenge.[/QUOTE] Let's see you say that when your relative gets killed and someone else says to you "Stop making such a big deal about it, jeez. The guy who killed him/her deserves a fair trail, and possibly a short period in jail."
[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;29625083]and THIS is why we should keep the death penalty.[/QUOTE] Because when the government murders murderers it suddenly becomes okay. [editline]5th May 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=MendozaMan;29631451]Let's see you say that when your relative gets killed and someone else says to you "Stop making such a big deal about it, jeez. The guy who killed him/her deserves a fair trail, and possibly a short period in jail."[/QUOTE] So every decision about ending someone's life should be made in the totally calm and objective position of a side victim filled with anger and rage?
[QUOTE=Rubs10;29631350]Death sentence is a permanent answer to a temporary problem. [/QUOTE] The girl's death isn't temporary
[QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;29631655]The girl's death isn't temporary[/QUOTE] yeah it was a permanent answer to a temporary problem
Why the Death Penalty is nonsensical: 1. It is purely for revenge. A man is killed because he killed someone else. It's an eye for an eye. You know what you end up with? Two dead people. And one person who is still unhappy because they have a dead family member. 2. It preempts the possibility of rehabilitation. While the man may be murderous, terrible, and some may say "evil", he also has the chance to be rehabilitated. While this may or may not be successful, you must try, or you have killed a man who may be good and do good one day. You can't rehabilitate a corpse. 3. He may be innocent. There's been multiple cases in which a man who's been sentenced to death row has been proven innocent by other evidence or other information, and been set free. 4. No matter how monstrous, how terrible, how cruel, how dangerous a man is, sentencing him to death would put us on his level. 5. And finally, how is death a worse punishment than lifelong seclusion from society, living life in prison. Knowing you'll never get free, never be able to do the things you used to, live the way you used to, and be the way you used to. It's a death in and of itself.
[QUOTE=Treybuchet;29631927]Why the Death Penalty is nonsensical: 1. It is purely for revenge. A man is killed because he killed someone else. It's an eye for an eye. You know what you end up with? Two dead people. And one person who is still unhappy because they have a dead family member. 2. It preempts the possibility of rehabilitation. While the man may be murderous, terrible, and some may say "evil", he also has the chance to be rehabilitated. While this may or may not be successful, you must try, or you have killed a man who may be good and do good one day. You can't rehabilitate a corpse. 3. He may be innocent. There's been multiple cases in which a man who's been sentenced to death row has been proven innocent by other evidence or other information, and been set free. 4. No matter how monstrous, how terrible, how cruel, how dangerous a man is, sentencing him to death would put us on his level. 5. And finally, how is death a worse punishment than lifelong seclusion from society, living life in prison. Knowing you'll never get free, never be able to do the things you used to, live the way you used to, and be the way you used to. It's a death in and of itself.[/QUOTE] 1. It's also closure for the family. And punishment. Also, karma, golden rule, "what goes around comes around", etc. And to make sure he never does that shit again. 2. You must try to rehabilitate him, of course. However, if the rehabilitation isn't successful, then what? We're back to square one. 3. I agree with you there. It should only be applicable in cases where we're 100% sure that they did it. This guy pleaded guilty and [b]made "brb killing my daughter" his Facebook status.[/b] We're pretty goddamn sure he did it. 4. Absolute bullshit. So, if we execute a man who tortured, raped, and murdered multiple people, that's the same as torturing, raping, and murdering multiple people? Even if you just take it like that, it's not at his level. If you count for the fact that he did it to innocent people, and we're killing a man who did such monstrous things to innocent people, not killing an innocent person (see 3), that puts us even [i]further[/i] from his level. 5. Wait, wait, wait. So, you're saying that sentencing him to death would be putting us at his level. If life in prison is a worse punishment than the one that puts us at his level, how the fuck does doing that put us above his level!? And if he isn't able to be rehabilitated (see 2), and is as dangerous as he is ("You broke up with me? I'll painfully murder our daughter!" seems pretty fucking dangerous), what the fuck do we do with him? Addendum: Wait, didn't he want to kill himself anyway?
[QUOTE=Last or First;29633377]1. It's also closure for the family. And punishment. Also, karma, golden rule, "what goes around comes around", etc. And to make sure he never does that shit again. 2. You must try to rehabilitate him, of course. However, if the rehabilitation isn't successful, then what? We're back to square one. 3. I agree with you there. It should only be applicable in cases where we're 100% sure that they did it. This guy pleaded guilty and [b]made "brb killing my daughter" his Facebook status.[/b] We're pretty goddamn sure he did it. 4. Absolute bullshit. So, if we execute a man who tortured, raped, and murdered multiple people, that's the same as torturing, raping, and murdering multiple people? Even if you just take it like that, it's not at his level. If you count for the fact that he did it to innocent people, and we're killing a man who did such monstrous things to innocent people, not killing an innocent person (see 3), that puts us even [i]further[/i] from his level. 5. Wait, wait, wait. So, you're saying that sentencing him to death would be putting us at his level. If life in prison is a worse punishment than the one that puts us at his level, how the fuck does doing that put us above his level!? And if he isn't able to be rehabilitated (see 2), and is as dangerous as he is ("You broke up with me? I'll painfully murder our daughter!" seems pretty fucking dangerous), what the fuck do we do with him? Addendum: Wait, didn't he want to kill himself anyway?[/QUOTE] Two wrongs don't make a right. If you kill him because he killed his child, you both are murderers. It doesn't matter who you killed, you took a life. What you do is you try rehabilitating him and if it doesn't work, make him work at a place that has him do something useful for society for 10 years, or do that before rehabilitating, maybe he'll find peace and calming in cutting wood in sibiria and he's gonna be easy to approach afterwards. Physical can be a great anger relief, and if you make him work together with other inmates he'll maybe ven learn to properly socialize with others. Whatever it is, killing him is lowsome and wasting, and nobody has the right to do revenge killing out of "justice".
[QUOTE=Last or First;29633377]1. It's also closure for the family. And punishment. Also, karma, golden rule, "what goes around comes around", etc. And to make sure he never does that shit again. 2. You must try to rehabilitate him, of course. However, if the rehabilitation isn't successful, then what? We're back to square one. 3. I agree with you there. It should only be applicable in cases where we're 100% sure that they did it. This guy pleaded guilty and [b]made "brb killing my daughter" his Facebook status.[/b] We're pretty goddamn sure he did it. 4. Absolute bullshit. So, if we execute a man who tortured, raped, and murdered multiple people, that's the same as torturing, raping, and murdering multiple people? Even if you just take it like that, it's not at his level. If you count for the fact that he did it to innocent people, and we're killing a man who did such monstrous things to innocent people, not killing an innocent person (see 3), that puts us even [i]further[/i] from his level. 5. Wait, wait, wait. So, you're saying that sentencing him to death would be putting us at his level. If life in prison is a worse punishment than the one that puts us at his level, how the fuck does doing that put us above his level!? And if he isn't able to be rehabilitated (see 2), and is as dangerous as he is ("You broke up with me? I'll painfully murder our daughter!" seems pretty fucking dangerous), what the fuck do we do with him?[/QUOTE] 1. It's closure, maybe. Maybe. To be honest though, what sort of closure is it. Our daughter's dead, and the man who killed her is dead. It's not over. They're still out 1 daughter. They still grieve no matter what. Killing the man does nothing to bring back the daughter. and. As for karma and the golden rule: Karma is a concept suggesting what you do will affect you in a similar vein. If karma, as this, existed then there would be no need for such a penalty, as it would happen naturally. As for the Golden Rule, "Do unto others as you would have others do unto you." Well, I must suggest this response to this: "Let he who is without Sin cast the first stone". I'm not a religious man. However, your mentality here is an eye for an eye. Have another quote: "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind". Doing this as punishment simply means that we sink to savagery. Life is precious, and despite the man's doing, a Life for a Life is no way to deal with it. 2. Rehabilitation again. Or longer imprisonment. Or a better psychological analysis of the person. Never taking a life. 3. Alright. Let's see: Facebook statuses can be faked. Computers are left logged in. Pleading guilty can be done through deals, or out of fear. Finally, one can never be 100% sure. 4. Yes, in fact. We might be worse. The man who committed these crimes was fucked in the head somehow. Whether mental disease or emotions or something else entirely, he was fucked up. Hell, he might have even known what he was doing was wrong or bad, and still done it. Maybe they even did it to hurt someone, or multiple people. But we are still worse for killing him. The person/persons deciding to use the death penalty on a man are in their right minds, in theory. They're cold, rational. Logical. They aren't letting their emotions take over, hopefully. They're deciding to kill a man. In cold blood. In the name of justice and good. They are killing a man because they think he deserves to die. Who has the right, power, or knowledge to determine who lives and who dies? Nobody. If God existed, maybe him. It's not right to decide "This man deserves to die" in such a regard. 5. Deciding to sentence a man to prison doesn't take his life. It offers a chance for him to become better. To rehabilitate. To maybe get out some day and be a decent person. And finally, if a man cannot be rehabilitated, we must try anyway. And who are we to determine can't become rehabilitated?
[QUOTE=archangel125;29624828]He's a psychopath at best, at worst an unrepentant, evil fucker. Either way, whether it be through death or life imprisonment, I hope he never sees the sun again.[/QUOTE] But he needs to be rehabilitated. [editline]5th May 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Treybuchet;29631927]5. And finally, how is death a worse punishment than lifelong seclusion from society, living life in prison. Knowing you'll never get free, never be able to do the things you used to, live the way you used to, and be the way you used to. It's a death in and of itself.[/QUOTE] That is a cruel and unusual punishment.
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