I love how people think this was justified because the protesters didn't move
I wasn't aware that your constitutional rights are only applicable between certain hours designated by the government
Someone who disagrees with me, feel free to explain how any of this is ok, and how you honestly think this should be happening on the streets of America
[editline]26th October 2011[/editline]
Wow really Zeke basically said the same thing, I got beat to the point
[editline]26th October 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;32975449]Shut up[/QUOTE]
heh i have no argument so fuk u lol
What an insightful post, now I see the error of my ways, thank you Trunk Monkay
I know sarcasm must be extremely difficult for you to comprehend, but I actually wasn't calling for more violence, believe it or not.
In fact, and this may come as a shock, I was implying that the actions of the police were unjustified and brutal, but god forbid you have to read things properly and then form an opinion.
[QUOTE=Medevilae;32978608]Cannot block traffic
Cannot shit in park
Cannot pull police over barriers[/QUOTE]
Final destination
[QUOTE=Medevilae;32978608]Cannot block traffic
[b]Cannot shit in park[/b]
Cannot pull police over barriers[/QUOTE]
No, fuck off
Seriously, just shut up, go back to listening to Sean Hannity talk about how everyone involved in the protests is defecating on grandparents and punching veterans in the face, just shut up.
[b]One guy shits on a police car, and now it's apparently an epidemic of people shitting in public[/b]
Seriously, shut the fuck up with this.
Heavens forbid protesters accidentally block traffic, why can't they go protest in their designated cubbies at work like everyone else
[QUOTE=Medevilae;32978685]I say people are shitting in public all the time therefore it is true.[/QUOTE]
And even if it WERE true, does THAT justify tear gas and rubber bullets?
Maybe you should just get cops to go in there and arrest whoever is acting as the serial defector so that the protest may continue
im retarded
[QUOTE=Rocko's;32978708]Oh look it's you again, Oakland is a shitty city, ofcourse the police would teargas them. 1 simple robbery turns into a murder in the snap of my fingers. It's the Detroit of CA.[/QUOTE]
The city is run down, therefore, peaceful protest is no longer allowed in America, and tear gas and rubber bullets are an accurate response to people blocking traffic (Mostly because they're being shot at and tear gassed in the parks)
snip im retarded
[QUOTE=Rocko's;32978747]Do you live in Oakland? Have you ever been in Oakland? No? Shut the hell up then.
The police there are overwhelmed with crime, a protest is enough for them to blow the whole city up.[/QUOTE]
I guess by that logic I should go and shoot up my school if I felt overwhelmed. Did you count how many police officers there were over there? Maybe they should divide their forces better if their crime rate is so high.
[QUOTE=Rocko's;32978747]Do you live in Oakland? Have you ever been in Oakland? No? Shut the hell up then.
The police there are overwhelmed with crime, a protest is enough for them to blow the whole city up.[/QUOTE]
So once again, because the city is run down, American citizens no longer have the right to protest?
A++ logic, you'd do well as a dictator
Also thanks, I had no idea I wasn't allowed to criticize the actions of police just because I don't live in the city that the event is taking place.
[QUOTE=Nikota;32978775]I guess by that logic I should go and shoot up my school if I felt overwhelmed. Did you count how many police officers there were over there? Maybe they should divide their forces better if their crime rate is so high.[/QUOTE]
The thing is, one video isn't enough to show us the full protest. Remember Vancouver?
[editline]26th October 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Kopimi;32978794]So once again, because the city is run down, American citizens no longer have the right to protest?
A++ logic, you'd do well as a dictator
Also thanks, I had no idea I wasn't allowed to criticize the actions of police just because I don't live in the city that the event is taking place.[/QUOTE]
I'm not denying the right to fucking protest, I'm just saying that you're picking one protest out of all the other Occupy X's to say that America, or police, is denying freedom of protesting. It's Oaklands PD being shitbags as usual.
[QUOTE=Rocko's;32978798]The thing is, one video isn't enough to show us the full protest. Remember Vancouver?
[editline]26th October 2011[/editline]
I'm not denying the right to fucking protest, I'm just saying that you're picking one protest out of all the other Occupy X's to say that America, or police, is denying freedom of protesting. It's Oaklands PD being shitbags as usual.[/QUOTE]
I don't get it, their actions are justified because it's not unusual for them to act like power tripping cunts?
[QUOTE=Medevilae;32978685]Sanitation in Oakland was hell. Not all of the loosely affiliated Occupy protests are as organized as the Wall Street variant.[/QUOTE]
If I was in charge of the city I would have brought in portable toilets and trash cans, and then only kicked out the protesters if they [b]still[/b] didn't keep the area clean.
Rockos argument: if you have never been to a city you can't comment on events taking place there
snip
[QUOTE=Rocko's;32978876]Spot on mate.
Anyway, it's fair for protestors to destroy cities I guess. Fuck the sanitation department, let's fuck up the city to make a point![/QUOTE]
strawman of the year 2011
[QUOTE=Rocko's;32978876]Spot on mate.
Anyway, it's fair for protestors to destroy cities I guess. Fuck the sanitation department, let's fuck up the city to make a point![/QUOTE]
Continuing the extremely baseless sanitation argument I see
[QUOTE=Medevilae;32978966]Wall Street managed to negotiate this, and that protest has cost the city of New York 5 million dollars now. Not every town can handle that.[/QUOTE]
Occupy Wall Street is also astronomically larger than Occupy Portland
[QUOTE=Rocko's;32978876]Spot on mate.
Anyway, it's fair for protestors to destroy cities I guess. Fuck the sanitation department, let's fuck up the city to make a point![/QUOTE]
wow ok.
Also you've never been to the whitehouse I bet so don't you fucking dare vote you don't even know "shut the hell up"
And this is what I get for staying up all night.
Forget me, I'm just a Big Dumb American.
Well... Irishman.
[QUOTE=Medevilae;32978966]Wall Street managed to negotiate this, and that protest has cost the city of New York 2.5 million taxpayer dollars now. Not every town can handle that.[/QUOTE]
And not every town has a protest the size of #OWS
I'd much rather have my taxpayer money going towards supporting a peaceful protest than putting rubber bullets and teargas in the hands of city police for the sole purpose of ending a protest
Read the first page, it looks like the riot police likes to aim for the head when firing at people
Looks they are actually TRYING to shoot peoples eyes out, and trying to actually start a riot themselves
God dammit
[QUOTE=Medevilae;32979057]Occupy Oakland, Oct 22nd
[IMG]http://www.occupyoakland.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/320020_2487732429177_1128675469_32941002_2022313728_n.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Good god, they're walking amuck!
Look at all their ak47s and rocket launchers
Bring in the Maxim guns.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;32978852]If I was in charge of the city I would have brought in portable toilets and trash cans, and then only kicked out the protesters if they [b]still[/b] didn't keep the area clean.[/QUOTE]
But you have to be a ruthless twat to be a politician
[QUOTE=Kopimi;32979049]And not every town has a protest the size of #OWS
I'd much rather have my taxpayer money going towards supporting a peaceful protest than putting rubber bullets and teargas in the hands of city police for the sole purpose of ending a protest[/QUOTE]
You don't seem to realise that protesting peacefully means being peaceful and not purposely blocking large areas for weeks at a time. Of course they have to move and they aren't going to listen to a nice man in uniform telling them to move on as the OP stated.
Looking at a few videos it's evident that the people that got shot, were shot so bad because they STILL refused to move out of the area that was tear gassed. They had plenty of time to think,"They really want us to move, so let's move."
[QUOTE=AngryChairR;32979320]"They really want us to move, so let's move."[/QUOTE]
The point of the Occupy movement is the exact opposite.
"The bankers really want our money, so let's give it to them."
[QUOTE=Medevilae;32979057]Occupy Oakland, Oct 22nd
[IMG]http://www.occupyoakland.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/320020_2487732429177_1128675469_32941002_2022313728_n.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
THAT MAN IS BICYCLING ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE ROAD
[editline]26th October 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=AngryChairR;32979320]"They really want us to move, so let's move."[/QUOTE]
they really want us to stop protesting so let's stop protesting
you don't know how protests work do you
meanwhile, occupy atlanta was raided and a few dozen people were arrested.
during a drum circle
[QUOTE=AngryChairR;32979320]Looking at a few videos it's evident that the people that got shot, were shot so bad because they STILL refused to move out of the area that was tear gassed. They had plenty of time to think,"They really want us to move, so let's move." [/QUOTE]Even if they didn't want to move, I don't think that would equate to shoot-in-face level reactions.
Hell, I can't really think of anything that'd specifically provoke firing at the face short of an actual combat scenario. Aiming there with nonlethal weapons can turn them lethal, and lethal weaponry into flat-out execution tools.
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