RT guest hijacks Bradley Manning coverage to talk about Russia's anti-gay laws
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[QUOTE=LEETNOOB;41929142]You're wrong though. I said I don't like it when gay people express their sexuality in public, I didn't say I'm going to go kill them or make them feel miserable for it. Russia's law like that, and after thinking it over, I have to say that my view differs from theirs, but not by much.[/QUOTE]
You're dodging the question.
What rational train of logic is there that makes it okay for me to talk about the cute/hot girl I met yesterday but not the studmuffin that just walked through the door?
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;41929177]You're dodging the question.[/QUOTE]
I am not dodging the question. I have answered your question many times and no matter how many times you ask me, the answer will still be the same - I am fine with gay people, but I am not fine with them expressing their sexuality in public because it ticks me off.
Why does it tick me off? Fuck if I know.
Ask me the same question again and I will be under the impression that you are blinded by your bias towards me because my opinion differs from the majority and therefore clouds your logic.
[QUOTE=LEETNOOB;41929142]You're wrong though. I said I don't like it when gay people express their sexuality in public, I didn't say I'm going to go kill them or make them feel miserable for it. Russia's law like that, and after thinking it over, I have to say that my view differs from theirs, but not by much.[/QUOTE]
Outstanding. You hold dear an incredibly flawed way of thinking and you seek no means to reevaluate your personal dogmas against homosexuals.
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;41929229]Outstanding. You hold dear an incredibly flawed way of thinking and you seek no means to reevaluate your personal dogmas against homosexuals.[/QUOTE]
Is this a new thing or something?
[QUOTE=laserguided;41928846]I don't like the way your stereotypical gay guy talks, I don't understand why they talk like that, that is not a natural tone of voice. That is the only beef I have with gays.[/QUOTE]
Holy shit are you 12
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;41929229]Outstanding. You hold dear an incredibly flawed way of thinking and you seek no means to reevaluate your personal dogmas against homosexuals.[/QUOTE]
Of course it's flawed, the majority doesn't think that way and I simply have to be like the majority!
Get this - everyone has their own opinion. Do I bash you for being pro-gay? No, I don't, because I understand that you have your opinion and I respect that. How hard is that to understand?
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;41929251]Holy shit are you 12[/QUOTE]
Nope, I don't like that stereotypical higher pitch voice. I also don't like Taiwanese accents.
[QUOTE=LEETNOOB;41929206]I am not dodging the question. I have answered your question many times and no matter how many times you ask me, the answer will still be the same - I am fine with gay people, but I am not fine with them expressing their sexuality in public because it ticks me off.
Why does it tick me off? Fuck if I know.[/QUOTE]
I asked for a [B]rational[/B] reason, might wanna brush up on your reading comprehension.
[quote]Ask me the same question again and I will be under the impression that you are blinded by your bias towards me because my opinion differs from the majority and therefore clouds your logic.[/quote]
Yes, a desire for the LGBT community to express themselves like any other person clouds my logic, you're totally right!
[QUOTE=LEETNOOB;41929259]Of course it's flawed, the majority doesn't think that way and I simply have to be like the majority!
Get this - everyone has their own opinion. Do I bash you for being pro-gay? No, I don't, because I understand that you have your opinion and I respect that. How hard is that to understand?[/QUOTE]
just because you respect their opinions doesn't mean we have to respect yours
your views are bigoted and deplorable and should be called out as such
[QUOTE=LEETNOOB;41929259]Of course it's flawed, the majority doesn't think that way and I simply have to be like the majority!
Get this - everyone has their own opinion. Do I bash you for being pro-gay? No, I don't, because I understand that you have your opinion and I respect that. How hard is that to understand?[/QUOTE]
But being anti-gay is a destructive way of thinking.
[QUOTE=Wiggles;41929310]But being anti-gay is a destructive way of thinking.[/QUOTE]
He does not give a shit what you think.
[QUOTE=Wiggles;41929310]But being anti-gay is a destructive way of thinking.[/QUOTE]
It would only be destructive if I was willing to kill gay people.
[QUOTE=LEETNOOB;41929353]It would only be destructive if I was willing to kill gay people.[/QUOTE]
You don't have to actively act out on an opinion for it to be destructive.
Is this a simple case of social conditioning, poisoned by people who thought the same way?
[QUOTE=LEETNOOB;41929353]It would only be destructive if I was willing to kill gay people.[/QUOTE]
Not at all. Your prejudice against gay people may lead you to oppose more rights for, or support the suppression of, homosexuals, which in turn will negatively impact other people's lives. Just because you aren't physically harming gay individuals, your bigoted opinions can still lead to harm.
[QUOTE=LEETNOOB;41929142]You're wrong though. [B]I said I don't like it when gay people express their sexuality in public[/B], I didn't say I'm going to go kill them or make them feel miserable for it. Russia's law like that, and after thinking it over, I have to say that my view differs from theirs, but not by much.[/QUOTE]
"I don't like you kissing your gay partner in public" is basically what you're saying. What if people said "I don't like you kissing your straight partner in public"?
Think how they feel. You're discriminating them without reason, it's like racism. "You're black, and therefore it's illegal for you to walk in public". It works the same way.
You should stop your pointless argument, you've not given one [I]good[/I] reason why you hate gays, other than the fact that you're just plain homophobic.
[QUOTE=LEETNOOB;41929353]It would only be destructive if I was willing to kill gay people.[/QUOTE]
"I'm not saying I hate black people - they can be black and do their black stuff all they want in the privacy of their own home. But when they're acting like that, in front of my children, impressing upon them their ideals, that's wrong!"
Are you telling me you draw no parallels here?
[QUOTE=Wiggles;41929445]Not at all. Your prejudice against gay people may lead you to oppose more rights for, or support the suppression of, homosexuals, which in turn will negatively impact other people's lives. Just because you aren't physically harming gay individuals, your bigoted opinions can still lead to harm.[/QUOTE]
No. I would neither vote against nor for such 'rights', if an option came up. I'm neutral in that regard, because, like I said, I'm okay with gay people.
[QUOTE=LEETNOOB;41929353]It would only be destructive if I was willing to kill gay people.[/QUOTE]
look what happened in russia thanks to people sharing your same views
these anti-gay laws are undoubtedly destructive
[QUOTE=LEETNOOB;41929479]No. I would neither vote against nor for such 'rights', if an option came up. I'm neutral in that regard, because, like I said, I'm okay with gay people.[/QUOTE]
How the hell can you do that with a straight face? Claim you're okay with gay people while also saying it's disgusting when they express themselves in public?
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;41929505]How the hell can you do that with a straight face? Claim you're okay with gay people while also saying it's disgusting when they express themselves in public?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, is that so hard to understand?
[QUOTE=LEETNOOB;41929479]No. I would neither vote against nor for such 'rights', if an option came up. I'm neutral in that regard, because, like I said, I'm okay with gay people.[/QUOTE]
No, you're not.
You keep spouting off that "OH BUT IM OKAY WITH GAY PEOPLE"
If you were okay with gay people you wouldnt be saying that they shouldnt be allowed to express love and affection for their significant other in public.
You've claimed its against nature when its actually the opposite, and said one was grasping at straws when making a valid comparison.
You're homophobic, intolerant, and bigoted.
You're a bad person.
[QUOTE=LEETNOOB;41929479]No. I would neither vote against nor for such 'rights', if an option came up. I'm neutral in that regard, because, like I said, I'm okay with gay people.[/QUOTE]
Abstaining will still negatively impact people's lives. I don't see why it would be difficult to vote yes so that people could lead better lives at no expense to you.
[QUOTE=LEETNOOB;41929523]Yeah, is that so hard to understand?[/QUOTE]
Yes, because its contradictory.
[QUOTE=LEETNOOB;41929479]No. I would neither vote against nor for such 'rights', if an option came up. I'm neutral in that regard, because, like I said, I'm okay with gay people.[/QUOTE]
By the way, any particular reason you're putting rights in quotation marks?
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;41929546]By the way, any particular reason you're putting rights in quotation marks?[/QUOTE]
They're obviously unnatural sub-humans.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;41929524]No, you're not.
You keep spouting off that "OH BUT IM OKAY WITH GAY PEOPLE"
If you were okay with gay people you wouldnt be saying that they shouldnt be allowed to express love and affection for their significant other in public.
You've claimed its against nature when its actually the opposite, and said one was grasping at straws when making a valid comparison.
You're homophobic, intolerant, and bigoted.
You're a bad person.[/QUOTE]
Having and expressing an opinion that differs from the majority makes me a bad person. Man, you guys are no better than the homophobic people in Russia - can't tolerate the fact that not everyone is of the same opinion.
Regardless, I've had enough of this, I'm out.
[QUOTE=LEETNOOB;41929554]Having and expressing an opinion that differs from the majority makes me a bad person. Man, you guys are no better than the homophobic people in Russia - can't tolerate the fact that not everyone is of the same opinion.[/QUOTE]
Excuse for my intolerance towards people who feel your legal sexuality is worth getting arrested for.
[QUOTE=LEETNOOB;41929554]Having and expressing an opinion that differs from the majority makes me a bad person. Man, you guys are no better than the homophobic people in Russia - can't tolerate the fact that not everyone is of the same opinion.[/QUOTE]
No, expressing a homophobic, intolerant, bigoted opinion that makes me think you think gays are some subhuman unnatural shit stain on the planit makes me think you're a bad person.
And you are.
Also, being gay isnt a choice, or "opinion", dude.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;41929566]Excuse for my intolerance towards people who feel your legal sexuality is worth getting arrested for.[/QUOTE]
Please show me at least one report when 2 men got arrested for holding hands in public.
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