Bachmann: ‘Absurd’ to waterboard me to prove it’s not torture - Polidicks

[QUOTE=pingvin99;33339162]I actually like idea of waterboarding for terrorist scum.[/QUOTE] Yes, violence is always the answer. :downs:

I just wanted her to do it for my GOP presidential candidate Wet T-Shirt contest. I think Newt is in the lead.

[QUOTE=pingvin99;33339162]I actually like idea of waterboarding for terrorist scum.[/QUOTE] Terrorist scum? What a caricature you are.

[QUOTE=pingvin99;33339162]I actually like idea of waterboarding for terrorist scum.[/QUOTE] Just wait until the United States invades your country and we label you as a terrorist and torture you. How would you like it then?

[QUOTE=Zeke129;33339040]Did you just say that Clinton is as bad as Palin?[/QUOTE] Doesn't surprise me he said that, just look at the republicans posting on the white house page on facebook: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/7LUSL.png[/IMG]

I don't get it. Most conservatives in blue collar workers earning a little more than $50,000 on average considering the fact that both the husband and wife both work. Why do they defend these rich businessmen where finances are not an issue for them while the couple defending this "system" live from paycheck to paycheck.

Torture by any means is unacceptable. If the US supported such acts and saw it as norm it opens up the gateway for other countries to take our guys as POW's and torture them. How can you enforce international laws and various other treaties if you break them.

[QUOTE=Jookia;33339138]Why would you test something that could hurt you on yourself to prove it doesn't hurt people?[/QUOTE]How is that related to the post you quoted at all? Yeah Truman didn't nuke himself but he never believed the atomic bomb was harmless.

[QUOTE=IdiotStorm;33338543]Waterboarding is pretty much the same as dropping the bombs on japan I don't even[/QUOTE] I don't think I could think of a worse comparison if I tried. I mean those two things have ZERO relation.

[QUOTE=Alex_DeLarge;33339553]I don't get it. Most conservatives in blue collar workers earning a little more than $50,000 on average considering the fact that both the husband and wife both work. Why do they defend these rich businessmen where finances are not an issue for them while the couple defending this "system" live from paycheck to paycheck.[/QUOTE] Because Jesus 9/11 Communist Nascar Muslims Murica.

I saw the video of Hitchens being waterboarded. He's pretty badass. Honestly, whatever else I can say about her (and I can say a lot) it just proves how ignorant she's being. I think "nut up or shut up" applies here.

Why so much controversy about torture? If we capture a terrorist who has information about nukes in American cities, are we gonna break his face or are we gonna hand him Koran and respect his human rights? Me thinks we'll resort to the former. That being said, maybe we wouldn't need to use torture if we didn't have this American exceptionalism foreign policy that supports oppressive dictators and military bases on foreign soil. Maybe if we handed out more bread and Mickey Mouse cartoons instead of cruise missiles, Muhammad the goat herder would feel less compelled to walk into embassies with explosives strapped to his chest.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. The woman is a dumb bitch who has a reckless disregard for both the well-being of our nation and it's people, especially those in the Armed Forces. [editline]19th November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=cqbcat;33340195]Why so much controversy about torture? If we capture a terrorist who has information about nukes in American cities, are we gonna break his face or are we gonna hand him Koran and respect his human rights? Me thinks we'll resort to the former. That being said, maybe we wouldn't need to use torture if we didn't have this American exceptionalism foreign policy that supports oppressive dictators and military bases on foreign soil. Maybe if we handed out more bread and Mickey Mouse cartoons instead of cruise missiles, Muhammad the goat herder would feel less compelled to walk into embassies with explosives strapped to his chest.[/QUOTE] If we resort to torture, we throw away everything we've worked for, everything we represent. How can we stand for freedom and the rights of man when, in the face of one of our most elusive enemies, we crack and take to the tactics of those we fight?

[QUOTE=Alex_DeLarge;33339553]I don't get it. Most conservatives in blue collar workers earning a little more than $50,000 on average considering the fact that both the husband and wife both work. Why do they defend these rich businessmen where finances are not an issue for them while the couple defending this "system" live from paycheck to paycheck.[/QUOTE] This is because no one sees themselves as poor, they only see themselves as currently disadvantaged millionaires. They all want to secure the safety net because they see themselves in it some day, no matter how unrealistic that belief may be. Because of their blind hope for the lottery, luck, miracles based on some faith with no basis in reality, they are building a castle they will only ever see the outside walls of. They think the rich need to be protected because one day when they are rich, they want to stay rich.

[QUOTE=The Baconator;33339523]Doesn't surprise me he said that, just look at the republicans posting on the white house page on facebook: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/7LUSL.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] Did...did she just say that Hitler was communist...

[QUOTE=kaven;33340446]Did...did she just say that Hitler was communist...[/QUOTE] She said Mussolini too. Mussolini was one of the founding fathers of fascism...

[QUOTE=kaven;33340446]Did...did she just say that Hitler was communist...[/QUOTE] It's funny that she says move to China when the Republicans are doing their best to turn America into China.

Why do we even talk about this woman. Look at her. No really. Go look at a picture. Done? Yeah, I know, crazy eyes. Which would be fine if she wasn't actually crazy. Except she is. I believe the clinical term is bat shit. Can we just ignore her and move on? Or lets just do more parodies of her like this: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFB6LQ1-WKU&feature=channel_video_title[/media] Not that anyone would really notice the difference.

[QUOTE=The Baconator;33339523]Doesn't surprise me he said that, just look at the republicans posting on the white house page on facebook: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/7LUSL.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] It bugs me that when republicans in power say things like this, they aren't trolling, but they actually are this stupid.

I still don't know why people think torture works. An innocent person isn't going to just wait there and continue being tortured, they're going to say anything to get out of it. Thinking about it, how do you identify an innocent person through torture?

[QUOTE=Jasun;33340846]I still don't know why people think torture works. An innocent person isn't going to just wait there and continue being tortured, they're going to say anything to get out of it. Thinking about it, how do you identify an innocent person through torture?[/QUOTE] It's pretty simple [quote]The suspect has his head placed upon a block, and an axe aimed at his neck. If the man is guilty, the axe will bounce off his neck — so we burn him. If the man is not guilty, the axe will simply slice his head off. [/quote] It scares me that there is even the slightest possibility that somebody like this could have that much power.

[QUOTE=valkery;33338559]There is a reason that Sarah Palin is no longer mentioned in Republican circles and only in Democratic circles when they are making a joke. Let us hope that Bachman soon joins hands with Palin, Pelosi and Mrs. Clinton in the annals of failed, idiotic women politicians.[/QUOTE] Why did you have to point out the fact that they're women, and how is Clinton a failed politician?

Well it's up for someone to kidnap her and make her try this.

[QUOTE=Alex_DeLarge;33339553]I don't get it. Most conservatives in blue collar workers earning a little more than $50,000 on average considering the fact that both the husband and wife both work. Why do they defend these rich businessmen where finances are not an issue for them while the couple defending this "system" live from paycheck to paycheck.[/QUOTE] [quote=John Steinbeck]Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires[/quote]

[QUOTE=cqbcat;33340195]Why so much controversy about torture? If we capture a terrorist who has information about nukes in American cities, are we gonna break his face or are we gonna hand him Koran and respect his human rights? Me thinks we'll resort to the former. That being said, maybe we wouldn't need to use torture if we didn't have this American exceptionalism foreign policy that supports oppressive dictators and military bases on foreign soil. Maybe if we handed out more bread and Mickey Mouse cartoons instead of cruise missiles, Muhammad the goat herder would feel less compelled to walk into embassies with explosives strapped to his chest.[/QUOTE] Yes of course. Because everyone who is captured is of course a terrorist that has information about nukes in American cities. And human rights don't have an asterisk of who they apply to, they're universal. Look at the terrorist attack in Norway (though that was domestic terrorism, but still). Disregarding the fact that Norway didn't change any policies because of it and still remains the beacon of democracy, how is the terrorist who personally murdered dozens of young people in cold blood being treated? He's protected from the public and other inmates because the government believes if he was to be unsupervised he'd get severely beaten up or killed. And earlier today (or was it yesterday) we got the first bits of information from his trial. In a court. No waterboarding for information about others who think like him, no locking him up for life away from public eye. Good job Norway. You're the proof that international agreements and human rights can count for something. Second part of your post though, I agree. Except that part where you said "Muhammad the goat herder" because that makes you sound like a complete idiot. And it's sort of funny since the WTC attacks were carried out by people with university education, not to mention at least basic flight school.

[video=youtube;4LPubUCJv58]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LPubUCJv58[/video] Nope. not cruel in any way, nu-uh

Bachman is that one choice in a poll that people only vote for because they enjoy the "Da fuq?" reaction from their peers.

[QUOTE=valkery;33338559]There is a reason that Sarah Palin is no longer mentioned in Republican circles and only in Democratic circles when they are making a joke. Let us hope that Bachman soon joins hands with Palin, Pelosi and Mrs. Clinton in the annals of failed, idiotic women politicians.[/QUOTE] I like Hillary Clinton :(

[QUOTE=Clementine;33342468]I like Hillary Clinton :([/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH8owcMHc34&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fresults%3Fsearch_query%3DPREEMPTIVE%2BUSE%2BOF%2BCLINTON%26oq%3DPREEMPTIVE%2BUSE%2BOF%2BCLINTON%26aq%3Df%26aqi%3D%26aql%3D%26gs_sm%3De%26gs_upl%3D486l5979l0l6171l31l28l0l19l2l0l272l1472l1.7.1l9l0[/media]

[QUOTE=kenji;33342179][video=youtube;4LPubUCJv58]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LPubUCJv58[/video] Nope. not cruel in any way, nu-uh[/QUOTE] And keep in mind that they laid out very cleanly that it was a demonstration, he was surrounded by people he knew were professionals, and they gave him a code word. Imagine what it would be like in a more realistic scenario. Waterboarding is absolutely torture and anyone who disagrees is fucking retarded.