Bachmann: ‘Absurd’ to waterboard me to prove it’s not torture - Polidicks

[QUOTE=valkery;33338559]There is a reason that Sarah Palin is no longer mentioned in Republican circles and only in Democratic circles when they are making a joke. Let us hope that Bachman soon joins hands with Palin, Pelosi and Mrs. Clinton in the annals of failed, idiotic women politicians.[/QUOTE] Except that Clinton is actually fairly competent as the Secretary of State. The first two though...

[QUOTE=kaven;33340446]Did...did she just say that Hitler was communist...[/QUOTE] Blame it on Glenn Beck. He did at least one episode on how Hitler and Stalin, apart from hating each other, were EXACTLY ALIKE. If you think your brain can handle it, here is the first segment. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKGPL6ygJP0[/media]

I've read books where the Protagonist gets waterborded That was enough to scare the SHIT out of me

Can this woman honestly get any more STUPID? I mean like fuck, she comes up with a new idiotic thing like every week.

Waterboard her anyway.

[QUOTE=Florence;33343011]Waterboard her anyway.[/QUOTE] Can we stretch the definition of "terrorist" enough so that she fits? I believe we can

God damn it, America. We should have an IQ test for everybody, and if someone fails, we trebuchet them into the ocean :v:

[QUOTE=cqbcat;33340195]Why so much controversy about torture? If we capture a terrorist who has information about nukes in American cities, are we gonna break his face or are we gonna hand him Koran and respect his human rights? Me thinks we'll resort to the former. That being said, maybe we wouldn't need to use torture if we didn't have this American exceptionalism foreign policy that supports oppressive dictators and military bases on foreign soil. Maybe if we handed out more bread and Mickey Mouse cartoons instead of cruise missiles, Muhammad the goat herder would feel less compelled to walk into embassies with explosives strapped to his chest.[/QUOTE] Because torture doesn't work. The interrogators have gone on record saying that they had a lot more luck getting information without torture, and that the prisoner closes up once the torture starts. Furthermore, they'll say anything under torture just to get the person torturing to stop. If you can find any credible information revealed under torture, do post it. It's like in the days where the Spanish Inquisition tortured people suspected of going against the church. It doesn't matter if the person was innocent, they were going to torture them until they confessed or died, and when they broke and confessed regardless of their guilt, they were killed.

[QUOTE=Omali;33344546]Because torture doesn't work. The interrogators have gone on record saying that they had a lot more luck getting information without torture, and that the prisoner closes up once the torture starts. Furthermore, they'll say anything under torture just to get the person torturing to stop. If you can find any credible information revealed under torture, do post it. It's like in the days where the Spanish Inquisition tortured people suspected of going against the church. It doesn't matter if the person was innocent, they were going to torture them until they confessed or died, and when they broke and confessed regardless of their guilt, they were killed.[/QUOTE] You can catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

I actually heard a story about an Army cook in Iraq. They put him to work cooking for Iraqi POWs. He didn't trust them, and they didn't trust him at first, but they got to know each other and softened up. The cook came to know them as people, and the Iraqis came to enjoy his cooking (I'm told he had a good recipe for Chili-Mac). Over time, the POWs started volunteering information on weapon caches, safehouses, stuff like that. I'd say that's a good argument against the use of torture.

[QUOTE=kenji;33342179][video=youtube;4LPubUCJv58]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LPubUCJv58[/video] Nope. not cruel in any way, nu-uh[/QUOTE] how is this not drowning? this is literally the act of pouring water into someone

[QUOTE=Psychokitten;33344870]I actually heard a story about an Army cook in Iraq. They put him to work cooking for Iraqi POWs. He didn't trust them, and they didn't trust him at first, but they got to know each other and softened up. The cook came to know them as people, and the Iraqis came to enjoy his cooking (I'm told he had a good recipe for Chili-Mac). Over time, the POWs started volunteering information on weapon caches, safehouses, stuff like that. I'd say that's a good argument against the use of torture.[/QUOTE] The US brought a very successful German integrator back to America after WW2. They were surprised to find out he got information for being nice to the prisoners, not by causing them pain.

How does this kind of people get soo far in life?!

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;33339858]I don't think I could think of a worse comparison if I tried. I mean those two things have ZERO relation.[/QUOTE] its like saying eating a potato is the same as crashing a car

Let us not become like Japan, which has a 99% prosecution rate because police torture suspects until they create a false testament to stop the pain.

[QUOTE=thispieiscold;33345268]how is this not drowning? this is literally the act of pouring water into someone[/QUOTE] It's controlled drowning, all it is. You are tying someone down, putting a towel over their face, and slowly drowning them. It's physical and mental torture.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;33347527]It's controlled drowning, all it is. You are tying someone down, putting a towel over their face, and slowly drowning them. It's physical and mental torture.[/QUOTE] ok, thanks