New Report Urges Extreme Caution Against Infection When Landing on Alien Worlds - Will cancel missio
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[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;35656295]Because, like it says on any cleaning product, it may only kill "99%" of bacteria.
That 1% could be just enough to hurt the ecology of alien worlds.
Is 1% worth the risk?[/QUOTE]
Nuke it with gamma rays afterward, should take care of it.
[QUOTE=Within;35658946]Nuke it with gamma rays afterward, should take care of it.[/QUOTE]
Thing is, some of that stuff will be people, and space suits.
Also yet again there's bacteria that can survive that.
[QUOTE=Glitch360;35657051]Reminds me of this:
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Just to illustrate how ridiculously hardy archaea bacteria are, there's is bacteria that can eat through solid rock, there is bacteria that can comfortably survive all methods of sterilisation in hospitals including acid baths and autoclaving.
There's also archaea bacteria that live in this lake [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitch_Lake[/url] like it was nothing.
You cannot, and never will succeed, in killing 100% of bacteria.
Ever.
[QUOTE=Glitch360;35657051]Reminds me of this:
Couldn't find the original comic[/QUOTE]Somwhere here:
[url]http://pbfcomics.com[/url]
This is retarded
your going to an alien planet that could or could not have any life with so freakin many things you won't even be able to comprehend till a 100 or so years......and just because you "think" it might be dangerous you don't wanna go?
Its an alien planet nobody's been on! of course its gonna be dangerous!
[QUOTE=Frostypunch;35659586]This is retarded
your going to an alien planet that could or could not have any life with so freakin many things you won't even be able to comprehend till a 100 or so years......and just because you "think" it might be dangerous you don't wanna go?
Its an alien planet nobody's been on! of course its gonna be dangerous![/QUOTE]
Do you not understand the sheer magnitude of bad shit that can happen if we go to a planet with microbial life and accidentally bring some back? Plus that's not what this is about, it's about us going to a planet and accidentally introducing microbes, archaea and bacteria from earth which could essentially wipe out local microbial life, or just life in general if it exists.
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;35659621]Do you not understand the sheer magnitude of bad shit that can happen if we go to a planet with microbial life and accidentally bring some back? Plus that's not what this is about, it's about us going to a planet and accidentally introducing microbes, archaea and bacteria from earth which could essentially wipe out local microbial life, or just life in general if it exists.[/QUOTE]
Crap
Didn't think of that
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;35658971]Just to illustrate how ridiculously hardy archaea bacteria are, there's is bacteria that can eat through solid rock, there is bacteria that can comfortably survive all methods of sterilisation in hospitals including acid baths and autoclaving.
There's also archaea bacteria that live in this lake [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitch_Lake[/URL] like it was nothing.
You cannot, and never will succeed, in killing 100% of bacteria.
Ever.[/QUOTE]
Put on the heater
[IMG]http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/images/xraysun.gif[/IMG]
Just pour some oxiclean in the atmosphere
Gets the tough shit out
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;35656295]Because, like it says on any cleaning product, it may only kill "99%" of bacteria.
That 1% could be just enough to hurt the ecology of alien worlds.
Is 1% worth the risk?[/QUOTE]
Bleach bath.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;35656295]Because, like it says on any cleaning product, it may only kill "99%" of bacteria.
That 1% could be just enough to hurt the ecology of alien worlds.
Is 1% worth the risk?[/QUOTE]
I can't see a space agency using a consumer anti-bacterial for something this serious...
"Who Speaks for Earth" -Carl Sagan
We do speak for Earth as well as the rest of the solar system as of now, some say leave Mars to the Martians but the reality is one day we would wish to colonize these worlds. And in the end, these microbes or simple life that live on those worlds will either be assimilated or die off.
But for now we should do our best to study the life without harming them, but the day will come when it must be tested.
We are worried about their world?
What if they zap OUR world!?
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;35656295]Because, like it says on any cleaning product, it may only kill "99%" of bacteria.
That 1% could be just enough to hurt the ecology of alien worlds.
Is 1% worth the risk?[/QUOTE]Goddamn 1% screwing over humanity once again!
But is the bacteria on for example Europa important to us? Probably, but I fail to see how.
[QUOTE=Gears of duty;35664986]But is the bacteria on for example Europa important to us? Probably, but I fail to see how.[/QUOTE]
It would show how life could have spread around our solar system through transpermia if it is similar, or it would show how different life would be. It is extremely important either way.
I thought some viral infection on an alien world mutating the spacemen into monsters as the A.I. on the Shuttle cuts off all contact with Earth as the survivors have to fight to the inevitable end.
its funny how evil aliens in all the movies build massive weapons to destroy earth when all they had to do was sneeze on us
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;35656295]That 1% could be just enough to hurt the ecology of alien worlds.[/QUOTE]
Alter, not hurt. The only way we can damage a planets environment is to make it uninhabitable to humans to live on, and these other planets don't exactly have that trait. It could be valuable to get a pure planet to do experiments on, but we are going to want to terraform this shit eventually anyway so letting random bacteria make a home and seeing what affects it has on a planet would also be a great experiment.
[QUOTE=Mattk50;35666087]Alter, not hurt. The only way we can damage a planets environment is to make it uninhabitable to humans to live on, and these other planets don't exactly have that trait. It could be valuable to get a pure planet to do experiments on, but we are going to want to terraform this shit eventually anyway so letting random bacteria make a home and seeing what affects it has on a planet would also be a great experiment.[/QUOTE]
Can I just point out it took around a billion years before bacteria managed to substantially terraform Earth to the point where it had a lot of oxygen in it's atmosphere.
I'll put the kettle on while we wait.
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