Fox News abruptly cuts away from Giffords vigil the instant speaker mentions Palin - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Regulas021;27325301]His favorite books include Plato's "The Republic" and "The Communist manifesto". "Caiti Parker, who claimed she knew the suspect in high school four years earlier, described him as a politically radical loner who was left-wing or liberal at the time she knew him." yeah, he was clearly related to the Tea Party. What the [i]fuck[/i], facepunch, there's not a single thing tying him to Palin or the Tea Party. How is the OP any better than Fox News? He's a left wing radical who thought the government was mind controlling citizens. There is literally no connection to be made.[/QUOTE] The alleged shooter has a HUGE amount of online activity in which he preached and advocated traditional conservative ideals - the gold standard, an anti-abortion stance, xenophobia, etc. Then there is, of course, Sarah Palin's infamous Take Back the 20 ordeal, which introduced violent and dangerous rhetoric into the political discussion. It's hard to dodge the fact that Palin's messages could have had something to do with the targeting of Giffords.

[QUOTE=Prismatex;27330947]Sure, Keith Olbermann and company may be crazy, but at least they don't threaten violence.[/QUOTE] He has before but he has apologized and ask that people repudiate anyone who does threatened violence. He doesn't want anyone to approve by not saying anything.

[QUOTE=MFnRhino;27331950]The alleged shooter has a HUGE amount of online activity in which he preached and advocated traditional conservative ideals - the gold standard, an anti-abortion stance, xenophobia, etc.[/QUOTE] I've poured over his Youtube and Myspace and Facebook and haven't seen anything regarding those last two---everyone keeps saying it so I'm missing something---could someone show me where you got those last two from? Cause all I saw him preaching about was the gold standard.

[QUOTE=Pockets;27332087]I've poured over his Youtube and Myspace and Facebook and haven't seen anything regarding those last two---everyone keeps saying it so I'm missing something---could someone show me where you got those last two from? Cause all I saw him preaching about was the gold standard.[/QUOTE]He's a member of a white supremacist organisation, so that would account for the xenophobia, but i've heard nothing about the anti-abortion stance.

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[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;27332181]He's a member of a white supremacist organisation, so that would account for the xenophobia, but i've heard nothing about the anti-abortion stance.[/QUOTE] the only thing linking him to American Renaissance so far is a DHS memo [url=http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47308.html]according to this article.[/url]

[QUOTE=Pockets;27332087]I've poured over his Youtube and Myspace and Facebook and haven't seen anything regarding those last two---everyone keeps saying it so I'm missing something---could someone show me where you got those last two from? Cause all I saw him preaching about was the gold standard.[/QUOTE] [quote=ABC]"One day [Loughner] started making comments about terrorism and laughing about killing the baby," classmate Don Coorough told ABC News, referring to a discussion about abortions. "The rest of us were looking at him in shock ... I thought this young man was troubled." [/quote] [url]http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/jared-lee-loughner-suspected-gabrielle-giffords-shooter-school/story?id=12575278&page=2[/url]

[QUOTE=LarparNar;27329034][img_thumb]http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100902165412/starcraft/images/0/01/ShadowWar_SC2-WoL_Story1.jpg[/img_thumb] ?[/QUOTE] UNN is a parody of FOX i'm pretty sure.

[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;27322467]Is there any proof the shooter was politically motivated and that this map had anything to do with it? I haven't heard anything like that yet.[/QUOTE] Well, attempting to assassinate a political leader makes it pretty obvious that his shooting was indeed politically motivated. As for the map, it's just stupid partisan finger-pointing. Granted, Palin shouldn't be using cross-hairs and gun analogies to invigorate her audiences, but it's not as if she actually asked for anyone to be killed. Essentially, don't blame her--she's stupid and didn't think ahead.

I think it is just as biased as MSNBC is. Keith Olberman is just as biased as anyone on fox.

[QUOTE='[sluggo];27339643']I think it is just as biased as MSNBC is. Keith Olberman is just as biased as anyone on fox.[/QUOTE] Wrong. MSNBC doesn't let their anchors make shit up to support their insane viewpoints. They actually have to use facts.

[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;27340493]Wrong. MSNBC doesn't let their anchors make shit up to support their insane viewpoints. They actually have to use facts.[/QUOTE] Bias =/= Integrity of argument. They are nearly as biased as fox are. Some of the shows on MSNBC are just as bad as their counterparts on fox, like Matthews and that ED guy.

[QUOTE=that1dude24;27340629]Bias =/= Integrity of argument. They are nearly as biased as fox are.[/QUOTE] y'all are welcome to make threads bashing msnbc i'll stay over here with my npr and laugh at all of you

Canada :smug: But really, I honestly think that while not directly at fault here,Palin is still at fault at the root of the problem. To make an analogy, it's like telling a religious extremist to kill out of gods will. Sure, you didn't kill anyone yourself, but you egged someone on to do so. Even if you didn't mean it, you should still have foresight into things like this when you're as big a political figure as Sarah Palin

I hate Fox News as much as the rest of you but I don't think this was intentional. I think News is broadcasted with a slight delay, and if this was the real reason for the cut then they would have cut out the part where they even mention Sarah Palin. [editline]10th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE='[sluggo];27339643']I think it is just as biased as MSNBC is. Keith Olberman is just as biased as anyone on fox.[/QUOTE] The thing is, that's one talk show host versus all on Fox. Also, MSNBC doesn't advertise Olberman as news, where Fox does with Beck, O'Reilly, and Hannity.

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[QUOTE=Nyaos;27341194]I hate Fox News as much as the rest of you but I don't think this was intentional. I think News is broadcasted with a slight delay, and if this was the real reason for the cut then they would have cut out the part where they even mention Sarah Palin. [editline]10th January 2011[/editline] The thing is, that's one talk show host versus all on Fox. Also, MSNBC doesn't advertise Olberman as news, where Fox does with Beck, O'Reilly, and Hannity.[/QUOTE] Well those all those shows as well as Keith Olberman are news analysis, not news itself. I also think there is no problem with o'reily. [editline]10th January 2011[/editline] Keith Olberman said this once: "Lawrence O’Donnell joins me next on the future of health care reform, but first we stay in Massachusetts for the first of tonight’s "Quick Comments." I wanted to apologize for calling Senator-elect Scott Brown an "irresponsible, homophobic, racist, reactionary, ex-nude model, tea bagging, supporter of violence against women and against politicians with whom he disagrees." I’m sorry, I left out the word "sexist."

teabagger propaganda, thats what Fox is all about...

[QUOTE=OrionChronicles;27341695]teabagger propaganda, thats what Fox is all about...[/QUOTE] So what did they do for the 12 years before the Tea Party came to be?

[QUOTE=Prismatex;27330947]Except Obama and the Democrats haven't been insinuating violence as a way to deal with the opposition. A lot of the more radical right-wing talking heads make jokes about shooting Democrats and such. Sure, Keith Olbermann and company may be crazy, but at least they don't threaten violence.[/QUOTE] Actually they have [img]http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/TVNews/MSNBC%20TV/LastWord/Blog/2004_map_rev.jpg[/img] The difference is that for some reason when the right commits violence, if it's not obviously a Neo-Nazi group, it gets blamed on the Republicans, meanwhile on the left, when they resort to violence, they are usually are simply called "anarchist", "black/chicano nationalist", or the sorts, rarely you see the democrats blamed for what the people that listen to them do Also I hate being a centralist half the time, I get assaulted on Facepunch for being too right, and i get assaulted else where for being too left

[QUOTE=Ridge;27342757]So what did they do for the 12 years before the Tea Party came to be?[/QUOTE] Republican propaganda.

[QUOTE=Broseph_;27342773]Actually they have [img_thumb]http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/TVNews/MSNBC%20TV/LastWord/Blog/2004_map_rev.jpg[/img_thumb] The difference is that for some reason when the right commits violence, if it's not obviously a Neo-Nazi group, it gets blamed on the Republicans, meanwhile on the left, when they resort to violence, they are usually are simply called "anarchist", "black/chicano nationalist", or the sorts, rarely you see the democrats blamed for what the people that listen to them do Also I hate being a centralist half the time, I get assaulted on Facepunch for being too right, and i get assaulted else where for being too left[/QUOTE] That map has bullseyes on states that Bush won by a tight margin. In the Palin map, we see crosshairs, which carry the implication of rifle sights, representing individual candidates that Palin doesn't like. There's a big difference between bullseyes on states and putting individual candidates in the crosshairs.

[quote]"I hope that's not where we're going, but you know if this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying my goodness what can we do to turn this country around? I'll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out." ~ Sharron Angle[/quote] :commissar:?

[QUOTE=Broseph_;27342773]The difference is that for some reason when the right commits violence, if it's not obviously a Neo-Nazi group, it gets blamed on the Republicans, meanwhile on the left, when they resort to violence, they are usually are simply called "anarchist", "black/chicano nationalist", or the sorts, rarely you see the democrats blamed for what the people that listen to them do [/QUOTE] violence and anti-government rhetoric isn't part of mainstream democratic discourse

[QUOTE=Broseph_;27342773]Actually they have [img_thumb]http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/TVNews/MSNBC%20TV/LastWord/Blog/2004_map_rev.jpg[/img_thumb] The difference is that for some reason when the right commits violence, if it's not obviously a Neo-Nazi group, it gets blamed on the Republicans, meanwhile on the left, when they resort to violence, they are usually are simply called "anarchist", "black/chicano nationalist", or the sorts, rarely you see the democrats blamed for what the people that listen to them do Also I hate being a centralist half the time, I get assaulted on Facepunch for being too right, and i get assaulted else where for being too left[/QUOTE]American centrist = rightist. Everything in your country's politics is shifted a fair bit to the right in comparison to other democracies.

[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;27345557]American centrist = rightist. Everything in your country's politics is shifted a fair bit to the right in comparison to other democracies.[/QUOTE] No, compared to North and Western Europe. Eastern Mediterranean and Eastern Europe are farther right than the US in a lot of cases.

[QUOTE=Regulas021;27345695]No, compared to North and Western Europe. Eastern Mediterranean and Eastern Europe are farther right than the US in a lot of cases.[/QUOTE] maybe socially but not economically

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[QUOTE=Prismatex;27345707]maybe socially but not economically[/QUOTE] Yeah, economically they're left