• Drake Bell Tweets That He'll Still Call Caitlyn Jenner 'Bruce' As Controversy Around Transitioning F
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[QUOTE=Ragekipz;47861459]The difference is that flaming me is against the forum rules, but calling me something else, like Joe, is not.[/QUOTE] okay then we'll call you rachel
[QUOTE=Starlight 456;47862051]Wow stop attacking him for his beliefs!! You're the real bigot here!!![/QUOTE] I'm a bigot against bigots I'm the true bigot here
[QUOTE=Fort83;47861271]I read that formerly Bruce Jenner doesn't mind people using "he" to refer to him/her. I don't understand why this whole thing is "breaking" the internet.[/QUOTE] Off topic but I wish we could stop using the phrase "breaking the internet". Ever since that unbearable Paper Magazine printed that stupid Kim Kardashian cover, every time people start freaking out over a celeb on social media people start saying it's "breaking the internet" and it drives me crazy.
[QUOTE=J!NX;47862061]I'm a bigot against bigots I'm the true bigot here[/QUOTE] I remember there was a thread where someone actually said that you could be bigoted againt bigots lemme dig it up
Megan probably hacked his account.
[QUOTE=J!NX;47862039]you mean like when a bigot says something like [url]http://www.bustle.com/articles/71258-appalling-bill-to-legalize-killing-gay-people-in-california-submitted-by-local-lawyer-matthew-gregory-mclaughlin[/url] I don't think the extremist bigots can handle normal society. Normal bigots just want to push X group of people out of society, rather than a single person[/QUOTE] As long as he's a law abiding citizen and pay his taxes. It's important to notice that he can change what being law abiding is.
[QUOTE=srobins;47862067]Off topic but I wish we could stop using the phrase "breaking the internet". Ever since that unbearable Paper Magazine printed that stupid Kim Kardashian cover, every time people start freaking out over a celeb on social media people start saying it's "breaking the internet" and it drives me crazy.[/QUOTE] [t]http://computerandonlinesecurity.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/internet_explorer_broken.png[/t] too late, internet broken [QUOTE=Ragekipz;47862113]As long as he's a law abiding citizen and pay his taxes. It's important to notice that he can change what being law abiding is.[/QUOTE] Do you agree that a gay genocide bill is reasonable if passed?
[QUOTE=Ragekipz;47862113]As long as he's a law abiding citizen and pay his taxes. It's important to notice that he can change what being law abiding is.[/QUOTE] So if Brazil passed a bill that made it legal to hit you in the face, would you consider that a valid change to the law? Under your rules here, it's valid
[QUOTE=Ragekipz;47862113]As long as he's a law abiding citizen and pay his taxes. [B]It's important to notice that he can change what being law abiding is.[/B][/QUOTE] Are you actually defending a law that would make murdering gay people legal?
I always found it funny how bigots have the fucking gall to compare any criticism of their hate speech to actual oppression. Like holy shit you guys are bigots spouting vile filth. It's not the SJW tumblr illuminati telling you to fuck off; it's decent, not awful people. Free Speech may mean you get to be as ignorant and hateful as you want, but it doesn't mean people can't call you out on your shit.
[QUOTE=Ragekipz;47862113]As long as he's a law abiding citizen and pay his taxes. It's important to notice that he can change what being law abiding is.[/QUOTE] you start legalizing this sort of shit you start to create precedences, and then other governments will try the same thing if bigots get elected. Can't you see that the guy was trying to legalize the genocide of gay people? Not only are you continuing to repeat yourself, you keep trying to get in the last word as though your 'opinion' is even remotely acceptable, much less defendable. So I tell you, again, quit before you bite off any more cake when you're still choking on the portion you already bit off.
I keep wanting to like drake bell but every time i see his name in the news he makes it very hard to
[QUOTE=J!NX;47862119]Do you agree that a gay genocide bill is reasonable if passed?[/QUOTE] I don't. [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;47862125]So if Brazil passed a bill that made it legal to hit you in the face, would you consider that a valid change to the law? Under your rules here, it's valid[/QUOTE] That's why is so important to beware people who can change what is law abiding.
[QUOTE=Fouytan222;47862146]I always found it funny how bigots have the fucking gall to compare any criticism of their hate speech to actual oppression. Like holy shit you guys are bigots spouting vile filth. It's not the SJW tumblr illuminati telling you to fuck off; it's decent, not awful people. Free Speech may mean you get to be as ignorant and hateful as you want, but it doesn't mean people can't call you out on your shit.[/QUOTE] Yeah it's always so funny when people cry free speech over public backlash against some bigotry or other stupid comments, or even better yet when they say it's a violation of free speech for a private company or service to censor or curate their content, i.e. Facebook removing some hatespeech posts. The first amendment protects you from being persecuted by the government, not by your favorite website or shopping outlet.
[QUOTE=Ragekipz;47862177]I don't. That's why is so important to beware people who can change what is law abiding.[/QUOTE] So now you're making less sense than ever because it seems like you're agreeing the social ostracization of bigots is a valid method of dealing with them?
[QUOTE=Ragekipz;47862177]I don't. That's why is so important to beware people who can change what is law abiding.[/QUOTE] You said "as long as he's a law abiding citizen", that he can change what law abiding is, and he wants to make it legal to murder gay people. Can you say backpedaling?
[QUOTE=Punchy;47862171]I keep wanting to like drake bell but every time i see his name in the news he makes it very hard to[/QUOTE] Why would you want to like him? He's an otherwise unremarkable grown-up child actor that hasn't done anything notable since his show ended.
I'm not particularly for the idea of being transgender, but, everyone knows that mutual respect goes a long way when it comes to being a decent human being. Everyone can at least give the damn girl the respect that she deserves especially if this is the way she's felt about it for a long time. not liking something doesn't mean you can choose to totally ignore it and depreciate other human life for it
[QUOTE=Ragekipz;47862177]I don't.[/QUOTE] BUT [QUOTE=Ragekipz;47862113]As long as he's a law abiding citizen and pay his taxes. It's important to notice that he can change what being law abiding is.[/QUOTE]
Ragekipz, I think this thread has demonstrated both your lack of reading comprehension, and your lack of understanding about basic social etiquette. First, you've either ignored, or twisted in childish ways, the words of everyone who dares disagree with you. You've repeatedly twisted starlights words into meaning something significantly worse than what she meant at any point. You've ignored some well written posts that break down your posts and arguments because, I suspect, you know at some level you're wrong. Secondly, your posts about making conduct illegal, law abiding and what that means, and changing the laws on top of your ever present bigotry against trans and gay people. You've done your best to try and justify why they can be treated like shit by people like yourself, while you've tried to argue there's no way to call you out for your behaviour about this, but when presented with scenarios as to how to deal with it, you present nothing but contradictions to your very own methodology. Ragekipz, I don't think you really understand what you're saying very well at all here.
Ragekipz has never been very good at the whole "making good points" thing.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;47862251]First, you've either ignored, or twisted in childish ways, the words of everyone who dares disagree with you. You've repeatedly twisted starlights words into meaning something significantly worse than what she meant at any point. You've ignored some well written posts that break down your posts and arguments because, I suspect, you know at some level you're wrong. [/QUOTE] Very well, explain to me then. She said "we should push these people out by shaming them". Explain to me what that means, I trully wish to understand.
[QUOTE=Fort83;47861271]I read that formerly Bruce Jenner doesn't mind people using "he" to refer to him/her. I don't understand why this whole thing is "breaking" the internet.[/QUOTE] Because he's mainly an older generations icon and this makes their heads explode. Seriously my parents don't understand it [editline]2nd June 2015[/editline] Also id hardly call drake bell a musician anymore, he hasn't done anything since Nickelodeon
[QUOTE=Ragekipz;47862379]Very well, explain to me then. She said "we should push these people out by shaming them". Explain to me what that means, I trully wish to understand.[/QUOTE] It looks something like this: [IMG]http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/abyssal8908/Untitled_zps0sdzqd2p.png[/IMG] But in reality, the process is pretty simple. You ignore or shun the people who say these things. You say horrible things about trans people regularly, and you try to justify them every time. So people inevitably end up; 1) not liking you 2) not liking your attitude towards people 3) thinking you're a bigot and finally 4) just simply ignoring you. Hence the image. I'm not ignoring you, you're not on my ignore list but that's the point of what people do towards people like yourself especially when you don't really care about why you're wrong. Eventually, you're just ignored. [editline]2nd June 2015[/editline] Just ask yourself, Ragekipz, how would you push a person who wanted to legalize hitting you specifically in the face? How would you deal with that? Through legal manners or through social ostracization?
I don't even know this celebrity, so: what came first, Caitlyn or Bruce?
[QUOTE=Ragekipz;47862379]Very well, explain to me then. She said "we should push these people out by shaming them". Explain to me what that means, I trully wish to understand.[/QUOTE] Let's argue for a moment that there are a bunch of generally acceptable ideals and opinions to work towards. There are also a number of other less savory ideals that directly or indirectly affect society in general, such as racism, casteism, genocide, and the like, which nobody except for the misguided, bigoted, or the depraved will put forward. Ideally, those with extremist and/or otherwise unacceptable ideals such as the above should be marginalized by any sensible person who comes to hear of such things. The problem is, who decides what gets to be acceptable and what isn't? this is also a common argument used by the other side when they want to justify their unacceptable actions. Problem is, there's just some shit that doesn't fly no matter your excuse for it, just as there are some situations where there is only one acceptable answer or opinion that applies. There's nothing wrong with free speech; but people should realize it's a street which cuts both ways - everybody's free to say what they like, everybody else free to tell you that you're wrong. Bigots have no place in a healthy society period. Either you accept people for who they happen to be, or you keep your mouth shut and your views to yourself. That's just it in a nutshell.
Holy fuck this thread. Bruce or Caitlin what ever just refer to it as "Jenner"
[QUOTE=counterpo0;47862618]Holy fuck this thread. Bruce or Caitlin what ever just refer to it as "Jenner"[/QUOTE] "it". Really.
funny enough though, old english used he interchangably for both sexes in correct grammar especially if the sex of the subject was unknown, it wasn't till like the 1800ish era that they started changing that
Do unto others as you'd have others do unto you.
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