Clinton campaign email: Comey letters threw the election to Trump
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[QUOTE=Dr.Cola;51356096]ah okay I must have misread sorry[/QUOTE]
yeah you did
[QUOTE=Dr.Cola;51356096]ah okay I must have misread sorry[/QUOTE]
Nah, in retrospect it is a little vague
while arguments about her campaigns integrity are important, in the national election she was only 1-3% away from winning, now we dont know if that was strictly because of the fbi but certainly wasting everybodys time for a week right before the election had to have some effect which is against the law
[QUOTE=Sableye;51356366]while arguments about her campaigns integrity are important, in the national election she was only 1-3% away from winning, now we dont know if that was strictly because of the fbi but certainly wasting everybodys time for a week right before the election had to have some effect which is against the law[/QUOTE]
While the FBI investigation didn't help, the vast majority of the fault lies with complacency and outright [I]arrogance[/I] of the Clinton campaign, because they barely even bothered with one, again, more time was dedicated to celebrity endorsements and events for the elite than was actually dedicated to winning over prospective voters. More time was dedicated to pushing the angle of "Yeah, woman president, take that, men!" then was dedicated to actually building up her merits as a candidate beyond "Well she's not Trump!"
More time was spent circlejerking around the latest poll and assuming that the whole election was already in the bag than was spent actually going out and being at least enough of a worthwhile enough candidate to get out and vote for
But instead they left prospective voters out in the cold, assumed the status quo vagina having not Trump candidate was enough and continued to alienate their voter base and the end result is an almost historically low democratic voter turnout
The fact that the race was so close and that she only [I]barely[/I] won the popular vote should be the biggest red flag that she was a poor choice with a poorly managed campaign and the fact that they're [I]still[/I] insistent that there's just too much misogyny for poor old Hillary to win is just the icing on the cake of insufferable arrogance
[QUOTE=fulgrim;51356045]I'm not from America but I just think Sanders just has that quality that Clinton so obviously lacked.
He's genuine, he's passionate about his cause, and that cause promises not just change, but positive change.
When I hear him talk about the issues people are facing and about forming progressive solutions to them, I genuinely get the feeling that this is a guy people could rally behind: "Yeah, this is the guy I'm supporting".
Throughout the past election I *never* felt that about Clinton, the closest I felt was "[i] fucking hell, definitely not this guy[/i]" towards Trump.
In hindsight, it's not actually surprising that Trump won considering he had plenty of genuine supporters voting for [i]him[/i]; whereas everyone ive spoken to about Clinton (both in my own country, and in America) only ever saw her as the lesser of two evils.[/QUOTE]
[quote=Bernie Sanders]Donald Trump tapped into the anger of a declining middle class that is sick and tired of establishment economics, establishment politics and the establishment media. People are tired of working longer hours for lower wages, of seeing decent paying jobs go to China and other low-wage countries, of billionaires not paying any federal income taxes and of not being able to afford a college education for their kids - all while the very rich become much richer.
To the degree that Mr. Trump is serious about pursuing policies that improve the lives of working families in this country, I and other progressives are prepared to work with him. To the degree that he pursues racist, sexist, xenophobic and anti-environment policies, we will vigorously oppose him.[/quote]
[quote=Bernie Sanders]We cannot be a party which on one hand says we're in favor of working people, we're in favor of the needs of young people but we don't quite have the courage to take on Wall Street and the billionaire class. People do not believe that. The Democratic Party has got to decide which side it's on.[/quote]
Bernie is a fucking class act, I really wish more politicians were like him.
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