72 charged in online global child porn ring (over 123 tb of the stuff)

[Impulse 101]

This is just terrible.

[CoolKingKaso]

[QUOTE=NorthernFall;31528036]He's talking about this website, [url]http://evil-unveiled.com/Visions_of_Alice[/url]. Read some of the quotes, if It didn't send a shiver down your spine then you ought to get your head looked at.[/QUOTE]

It's...odd in my opinion, but it didn't do harm to kids at all compared to the website listed in the OP. I'm fine with it.

[Sharo]

[QUOTE=Stren;31527979]Did you even read that, he's saying it'd be better if pedos didn't molest children.[/QUOTE]

Well no shit... But thanks.
These particular pedo's from Dreamboard are a special kind, I don't understand them, and I also find them kind of intriguing. How did they get to this? If you watch the video in the link in the OP, you can see some screencaps from their, I assume, FAQ and rules... You can almost see how offensive they are just from what they write. Like they are angry constantly or something.

I assume it saddens all of us that this have happened, but there's something extra on top that anger me. Which is why I went banana sandwich and started talking about VoA.
Pedophiles are already hated enough as it is, and along prances these guys [I](accompanied by catholic priests)[/I], and helps strenghten the idea that all pedophiles are bad people [I](and not just bad, but this level of bad...)[/I].

It angers me because I am indeed one [I](braces mainsails and secures doohikeys)[/I]. But unlike the ones in the OP, I actually have some respect for children, doing something like what those people did is grotesque...

Right now, in "The News Room" subsection of VoA, the members are raging about this as well.
Please don't kill me, I'm not a bad person ;_;

[editline]4th August 2011[/editline]

[QUOTE=NorthernFall;31528036]He's talking about this website, [url]http://evil-unveiled.com/Visions_of_Alice[/url]. Read some of the quotes, if It didn't send a shiver down your spine then you ought to get your head looked at.[/QUOTE]

Evil-unveiled is very very biased. And from what I've seen, the info about VoA they have is grossly outdated. Now, I haven't read any of the quotes in the link yet, but you have to realize the situation.

You got a small group of people who feel opressed and have nowhere to vent their fantasies and frustrations. Here they have an oppertunity to band together with people who have the same fantasies and frustrations. This, coupled with the fact that they know that all the "anti"s aren't there, they feel that they can suddenly go all out and write their fantasies in full detail.
That's why I said it would creep you out if you went there, because these people are venting their sexual feelings for children by telling said fantasies to each other. Like I said, they're not bad people, they're just venting, and I believe that not a single one of us would ever do something like the Dreamboarders.

[QUOTE]where pedophiles gather from around the world to discuss different ways to groom little girls, how to avoid getting caught by police and parents,[/QUOTE]
That is a down right lie. Biased, as I said.

And yup, those quotes are... Awkward. Again, they're talking about fantasies, and they're not expecting outsiders to read it, that's why they're so blatant.
And just because I feel kinda disturbed by that kind of talk as well, I want to point out that I normally only partake in the more serious discussions on there, not the topics like "Lingerie" and "Belly buttons" :|

[$$JOSE$$]

[QUOTE=Sherow_Xx;31528178]
It angers me because I am indeed one [/QUOTE]

Dude what

Well if that board you were talking about doesn't do no harm I guess it's not bad but that surely does not make it right.

[BadderSanta]

[QUOTE=$$JOSE$$;31528313]Dude what

Well if that board you were talking about doesn't do no harm I guess it's not bad but that surely does not make it right.[/QUOTE]

[Megafan]

[QUOTE=$$JOSE$$;31528313]Dude what

Well if that board you were talking about doesn't do no harm I guess it's not bad but that surely does not make it right.[/QUOTE]

They do exist and they aren't necessarily violent or predators.

[NorthernFall]

[QUOTE=Sherow_Xx;31528178] words [/QUOTE]

I hate everything you stand for. The idea of a non-violent/ predetory peadophile is laughable, how you could even try and 'seduce' a fucking child with consent is beyond me. And you sick fucks sitting around together sweating over 7 year old swimsuit model pictures is only going to tease you about what you cant and shouldn't have untill one day you can't contain it and go out and ruin a child's life untill the day they die.

[ThisGuy0]

[QUOTE=NorthernFall;31528793]I hate everything you stand for. The idea of a non-violent/ predetory peadophile is laughable, how you could even try and 'seduce' a fucking child with consent is beyond me.[/QUOTE]

I think you're misunderstanding the term 'non-predatory.' Non-predatory meaning a pedophile who doesn't want to actually do anything to a kid because they understand how damaging it is.

[Megafan]

[QUOTE=NorthernFall;31528793]I hate everything you stand for. The idea of a non-violent/ predetory peadophile is laughable, how you could even try and 'seduce' a fucking child with consent is beyond me. And you sick fucks sitting around together sweating over 7 year old swimsuit model pictures is only going to tease you about what you cant and shouldn't have untill one day you can't contain it and go out and ruin a child's life untill the day they die.[/QUOTE]

Calm yourself. I understand the common perception of these types of people is a bad one, but they can't help it.

[NorthernFall]

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;31528880]Calm yourself. [B]I understand the common perception of these types of people is a bad one[/B], but they can't help it.[/QUOTE]

Oh I just fucking give in now.

[Sharo]

[QUOTE=NorthernFall;31528793]I hate everything you stand for.[/QUOTE]
I don't like the fact that you hate me, but I can't stop you so okay.

[QUOTE]The idea of a non-violent/ predetory peadophile is laughable, how you could even try and 'seduce' a fucking child with consent is beyond me.[/QUOTE]

What? Are you implying that we're attempting to seduce children? People on VoA are merely discussing topics related to pedophilia, and many also discuss various fantasy scenarios. Nobody is actually talking about trying to seduce children.

[QUOTE]And you sick fucks sitting around together sweating over 7 year old swimsuit model pictures is only going to tease you about what you cant and shouldn't have untill one day you can't contain it and go out and ruin a child's life untill the day they die.[/QUOTE]

The rules about pictures are strict as fuck, so there's no pictures, only text. (Except avatars and signatures, which I'll give you, some members are probably fapping away to that)
The idea that it will drive us to become one of them is one theory, but I don't think it works that way.

[Van-man]

[QUOTE=NorthernFall;31528036]He's talking about this website, [url]http://evil-unveiled.com/Visions_of_Alice[/url]. Read some of the quotes, if It didn't send a shiver down your spine then you ought to get your head looked at.[/QUOTE]

I ain't clicking that link :colbert:

[Stren]

[QUOTE=Van-man;31528962]I ain't clicking that link :colbert:[/QUOTE]It doesn't link to the site, it links to a overzealous wiki about protecting children.

[Megafan]

[QUOTE=NorthernFall;31528919]Oh I just fucking give in now.[/QUOTE]

It's the same sort of irrational argument people sometimes make about homosexuals, about how they're prone to rape. No matter what it is you're sexually attracted to, it doesn't make you any more likely to assault it.

[ThisGuy0]

[QUOTE=Van-man;31528962]I ain't clicking that link :colbert:[/QUOTE]

It's not the actual site, it's a different page about it.

[Clementine]

People that hate pedophiles are blinded by intense hate, yes, all sexual predators, and indeed, any adult who has sex with a child is a bad person, but just because they are attracted to children doesn't make them bad people, it isn't their fault. No I'm not a pedophile, but I know that hating people for something they can't help is just stupid, it's like hating homosexuals just for being homosexuals. Hate them all you like if they rape children, but not if they just simply...are.

[editline]4th August 2011[/editline]

Now, I wish they didn't exist, I wish no child had to go through the pain these sick fucks in the OP's article had inflicted on them, but they exist, and not all of them are the same.

[Sharo]

Holy fuck. I was expecting a pure shitstorm.
I'm pleasantly surprised... Thanks a lot :0

[Stren]

[QUOTE=Sherow_Xx;31529469]Holy fuck. I was expecting a pure shitstorm.
I'm pleasantly surprised... Thanks a lot :0[/QUOTE]You can't pick your sexuality, otherwise I think everyone would go for whatever makes it easiest to get laid with someone :v:

[NOD Engineer]

Mother of God.

[twatbagg]

I'm sorry but if anyone's the least bit sexually attracted to a child that person should seriously review their mental stability. Actually, better to be safe than sorry; have someone else do it.

[Sharo]

[QUOTE=Stren;31529504]You can't pick your sexuality, otherwise I think everyone would go for whatever makes it easiest to get laid with someone :v:[/QUOTE]

Indeed, and some sexualities are indeed more problematic than others.
But many people will see pedophilia, whether acted upon or not, as a henious crime. And I honestly thought facepunch was judgemental enough to throw a shitfit about it. But you didn't.
I'm sorry facepunch :3

[Megafan]

[QUOTE=Sherow_Xx;31530219]Indeed, and some sexualities are indeed more problematic than others.
But many people will see pedophilia, whether acted upon or not, as a henious crime. And I honestly thought facepunch was judgemental enough to throw a shitfit about it. But you didn't.
I'm sorry facepunch :3[/QUOTE]

Pedophilia itself is not a crime by any means, but child abuse/rape is indeed quite heinous.

[Sharo]

[QUOTE=twatbagg;31530218]I'm sorry but if anyone's the least bit sexually attracted to a child that person should seriously review their mental stability. Actually, better to be safe than sorry; have someone else do it.[/QUOTE]

Been there done that. None of the 7 professionals I've talked to think that my pedophilia has anything to do with my mental stability.
But don't you worry, I'm reviewing my sanity constantly.

[editline]4th August 2011[/editline]

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;31530293]Pedophilia itself is not a crime by any means, but child abuse/rape is indeed quite heinous.[/QUOTE]

Yes. A lot of people don't realize this, which is why I was expecting a shitstorm.
But I agree thoroughly!

[Megafan]

[QUOTE=Sherow_Xx;31530354]Been there done that. None of the 7 professionals I've talked to think that my pedophilia has anything to do with my mental stability.
But don't you worry, I'm reviewing my sanity constantly.

[editline]4th August 2011[/editline]

Yes. A lot of people don't realize this, which is why I was expecting a shitstorm.
But I agree thoroughly![/QUOTE]

You seem like a smart fellow, and I must applaud you for your resolve.

[Sharo]

Well thank you!
And I think most people on VoA feel similarly about it.

Dreamboarders should have come to VoA instead, before they fucked up everything and everyone.
Seriously, think about how much this must have fucked up. At least 72 lives (self inflicted, so, good riddance), and assuming that all of them molested at least 1 child each; at least 72 extra lives (not self inflicted), and everyone who knew the child/pedo will also be going through tons of bullshit because of this. Not to mention that it affects everyone who hears about it.

Shit. All that for sexual satisfaction.

[spyk]

I can't even imagine how people are able to do stuff like this.

[Mort and Charon]

This is just beyond evil. They should get what they deserve in prison.

As for the whole "not all pedophilia is bad" thing, I just think its just inherently [i]wrong[/i] to be sexually attracted to kids under 12.

[HatredViral]

In all honesty, I can say I've had [i]those[/i] thoughts. You know the ones, especially when your girlfriends cousins walk past in their bikinis and that little bell in your brain is ringing "Stay the fuck away from them".

[Teh Kitteh]

[QUOTE=Mort and Charon;31535636]
As for the whole "not all pedophilia is bad" thing, I just think its just inherently [i]wrong[/i] to be sexually attracted to kids under 12.[/QUOTE]

I agree with this, but you just cannot change people. Not to mention it is a totally different story when a 18-20 year old is attracted to a 15-17 year old, I still find that somewhat normal.

As for the "fantasys" as long as you keep is as that I have no problem with it.

[Sharo]

[QUOTE=Teh Kitteh;31537096]Not to mention it is a totally different story when a 18-20 year old is attracted to a 15-17 year old, I still find that somewhat normal.[/QUOTE]

Somehow I think that is [I]completely[/I] normal... Unless of course the 15-17 in question looks younger.