Apple's new HQ is $2 billion overbudget due to Steve Jobs' incredibly detailed and perfectionist des - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Splarg!;40183848]There's a difference between having a courtyard and making it pointlessly difficult to get to the other side of the building.[/QUOTE] Cut through the courtyard.

[QUOTE=NotoriousSpy;40193137]Cut through the courtyard.[/QUOTE] What if said employee also is a Canadian forester?

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/PeHqoPG.jpg[/IMG]

I'm not the biggest fan of apple, but I never really understood why people go out of their way to hate everything they do.

[QUOTE=Van-man;40185660]Not a very "efficient" shape for buildings. Hexagonal on the other hand would be bitchin' [I]AND[/I] efficient (if plots of land were also sold in that shape. And curved glass is hilariously expensive compared to ordinary flat glass panels, and it's not just for one or two places on the building, but all around it. In short I can't help but feel this building is a prime example of architects being allowed to go buckwild, and then given full authority over a team of building engineers to be their minions and do their exact bidding. Although I do like the idea of a miniature forest surrounded by a group of buildings, and parking lot(s) under the building(s) The forest freshens up the view to outside, and the underground parking lot both means there won't be surface space wasted for that, and the cars are protected from the elements (except temperature changes, installing A/C in a parking lot is madness of the bad kind)[/QUOTE] Temperature changes? You do realize underground stays at a relatively constant temperature. Go to a friends house who has a basement and measure the temperature in the middle of a hot summer and in the middle of a freezing winter and you will notice there isn't much of a difference.

iOS has the best accessibility options of any phone, especially for people with very poor eyesight, such as my father.

[QUOTE=MelonGuy;40194633]iOS has the best accessibility options of any phone, especially for people with very poor eyesight, such as my father.[/QUOTE] [t]http://www.imgur.com/F4MGiN1.png[/t]

"gaps between surfaces should be no more than 1/32 of an inch, far tighter than the typical 1/8 inch" Dear god.... that instantly made the job take three times as long. I don't want to be the contractor on this thing, nothing but a highly funded nightmare.

Which surfaces are these gaps between exactly?

[QUOTE=Phaselancer;40195662]"gaps between surfaces should be no more than 1/32 of an inch, far tighter than the typical 1/8 inch" Dear god.... that instantly made the job take three times as long. I don't want to be the contractor on this thing, nothing but a highly funded nightmare.[/QUOTE] That is setting the building up for failure. Well, no, sorry I don't know that. I am not an engineer.

Looks like the GCHQ donut on steroids.

[QUOTE=Rika-chan;40194935][t]http://www.imgur.com/F4MGiN1.png[/t][/QUOTE] I don't think Android's accessibility is as good, it's not as well considered or as well implemented. This is coming from a number of people I know who've used both Android and iOS who have incredibly poor eyesight. It's really the little things you don't realise unless you have to live with something like that.

[QUOTE=MIPS;40188818]There's so much perfectionism and OCD in that building that I'm pretty sure that if you nick a surface it will start bleeding out and you'll need a hazmat team to clean it up.[/QUOTE] how is that not in some way cool, excepting of course that it's an apple building?

[QUOTE=Antdawg;40192099] They have no obligation to. But hell one could even argue that as they outsource most (if not all) of their production to China that they are already helping improve the living standards over there, so they are already doing a kind of "charity" work.[/QUOTE] Helped improved living standards by out-sourcing to a factory notorious for worker suicides and to a country notorious for fuck-all environmental protection laws, and is rapidly stepping up industry to boot. Yeah, okay. [QUOTE=Squad;40194565]Temperature changes? You do realize underground stays at a relatively constant temperature. Go to a friends house who has a basement and measure the temperature in the middle of a hot summer and in the middle of a freezing winter and you will notice there isn't much of a difference.[/QUOTE] This is true. Around here the wild tarantula species live in burrows under-ground and seal their entrances during the winter because the temperature 3-4 feet down is always 60-65F. Also why geo-thermal refrigerated systems work so well.

it looks like the bad guy base in the incredibles

[QUOTE=cathal6606;40184980]I found this part hilarious [QUOTE]- Polished concrete ceilings are to be cast in molds and then raised into position to ensure uniformity, rather than being cast in place. The requirement "left one person involved in the project speechless."[/QUOTE][/QUOTE] Geezus, that's on par with bridge engineering. You'd need ridiculously accurate calculations to make it all fit.

[QUOTE=ScottyWired;40203410]Geezus, that's on par with bridge engineering. You'd need ridiculously accurate calculations to make it all fit.[/QUOTE] A bridge you say? [T]http://www.halodiehards.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/full.jpg[/T][T]http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/4822/massrelay2.jpg[/T] The pieces are starting to come together.

[QUOTE=Squad;40195904]That is setting the building up for failure. Well, no, sorry I don't know that. I am not an engineer.[/QUOTE] Oh no it can be done you just need a shitton of laser levels, to give you an idea of how crazy that is. Most construction uses decimal inch so 1/8 is .125 inches. A tolerance on .125 means it can be over by 1/8 of either side. So a margin of error by a quarter of an inch which isn't too bad. However, the way they phrase it, this entire building will have a tolerance of 1/64 on every single gap. So you can be .016 off on either side. It will be overbudget and take about three times as long, but it can be done with a ton of checking everytime something it built.

To me it seems like this was designed to see if it was plausible to make a building to such strict standards, rather than a new office. It kind of fits the Steve Jobs idea of making everything the future.

Wow guys hating apple is SO last year

[IMG]http://s22.postimg.org/vqvw5wgkh/tbapple.jpg[/IMG] "iBirds are Go!"

These pictures literally looks like a screenshot from Anno 2070 The buildings look just fucking like that thing

[quote]As with Apple’s products, Jobs wanted no seam, gap or paintbrush stroke showing; every wall, floor and even ceiling is to be polished to a supernatural smoothness. All of the interior wood was to be harvested from a specific species of maple, and only the finer-quality “heartwood” at the center of the trees would be used, says one person briefed on the plan last year.[/quote] Am I the only one who noticed this paragraph essentially negated every single other statement about how environmentally conscious and efficient the building is? They're going to obliterate a specific species of maple tree to use 10% of the material and throw away the rest because Steve Jobs was a perfectionist asshole. Real environmentally friendly, guys. Apple's environmentalism is 100% for show, in reality they just exported all their polluting factories and slave labor to the other side of the world where their gullible American customers wouldn't see it.

[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;40291653]Am I the only one who noticed this paragraph essentially negated every single other statement about how environmentally conscious and efficient the building is? They're going to obliterate a specific species of maple tree to use 10% of the material and throw away the rest because Steve Jobs was a perfectionist asshole. Real environmentally friendly, guys. Apple's environmentalism is 100% for show, in reality they just exported all their polluting factories and slave labor to the other side of the world where their gullible American customers wouldn't see it.[/QUOTE] Couldn't they be planning to sell the rest of the wood for others to use? It would make no sense to just burn the shit when they could sell them for $

[QUOTE=Phaselancer;40288915]Oh no it can be done you just need a shitton of laser levels, to give you an idea of how crazy that is. Most construction uses decimal inch so 1/8 is .125 inches. A tolerance on .125 means it can be over by 1/8 of either side. So a margin of error by a quarter of an inch which isn't too bad. However, the way they phrase it, this entire building will have a tolerance of 1/64 on every single gap. So you can be .016 off on either side. It will be overbudget and take about three times as long, but it can be done with a ton of checking everytime something it built.[/QUOTE] I never said it couldn't be done... I have worked as a contractor and I am saying it isn't a good idea.

[QUOTE=Zero-Point;40191598]God forbid they do something worth-while like, I dunno, donate it to cancer/AIDS research.[/QUOTE] This may not be a donation to a charity or something along those lines, but by no means is this detrimental. Do you realize how many jobs will be created by building this insane project? This will put thousands to work for many years to get this thing built. Not to mention all the maintenance that will be required after everything is said and done.

I highly doubt apple would give [I]any[/I] fucks about 2 billion dollars.