• "Well it can't be worse righ-Fuck this." ‘Prometheus 2′ Gets New Writer; Will Reportedly Open March
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Prometheus was great. The script just sucked with certain scenes. It really wasn't Ridley Scotts fault.
[QUOTE=AK'z;44348377]prometheus is superb. People moan about plot holes, but I watched Training Day last night and that film is just a plot hole bonanza. Here, it's the most minor details that have nothing to do with the overall plot that bothers people. It's nowhere near Ridley's Alien. But better than a lot of modern sci fi (e.g. Star Trek).[/QUOTE] My problems with the movie have less to do with plot holes, and more to do with shitty science and fridge logic. "hey lets take this severed alien head, that has been dead for a long fucking time, and "trick" it into being alive with electricity" Suck my taint whoever wrote that shit.
Everyone that complains about Prometheus seems to complain about the writing, and not the direction. I think Ridley did an excellent job directing. Regardless of whether Michael Green somehow manages to be worse than Damon Lindelof, I think he'll do an excellent job with the material once again. [editline]25th March 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Moustacheman;44351992]Prometheus fucks up the Aliens timeline though because how could they have [sp] created the Xenomorphs if the Yautja have been hunting them for thousands, if not millions of years?[/sp][/QUOTE] Ridley Scott has never seen AvP, and I really don't blame him. Alien/Prometheus, Predator and AvP are treated as separate universes.
The directing is mostly fine, the movie is god damn gorgeous to look at. But that script is just so bad. I feel like we are supposed to relate and feel sympathy for girl with the dragon tattoo, but she is so dumb I wanted her to die the whole time.
i feel kinda sad thinking back on how dumb the characters were cos Michael Fassbender really deserved a better movie
[QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;44352053]My problems with the movie have less to do with plot holes, and more to do with shitty science and fridge logic. "hey lets take this severed alien head, that has been dead for a long fucking time, and "trick" it into being alive with electricity" [/QUOTE] yeah this is the kind of thing that didn't bother me. I also thought the effects there were done well enough for the desired effect. The writing was an issue, but the concept was more important.
[QUOTE=Moustacheman;44351992]Prometheus fucks up the Aliens timeline though because how could they have [sp] created the Xenomorphs if the Yautja have been hunting them for thousands, if not millions of years?[/sp][/QUOTE] Seriously? Predators aren't in the same universe, none of that is canon.
I just hate the fact that Prometheus made it canon that [sp]humans and xenomorphs are essentially the same shit.[/sp]
i'm confused, are we talking about this? [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/6AGHBQC.jpg[/IMG]
don't forget that the entire reason for them to be there is almost as nonsensical as the character's actions, who would put that much blind faith and belief in really really old writi- oooh I get it
Nobody is worse then Damon Lindelof, that dude fucks up everything. I just checked and Google agrees with me. [img]http://puu.sh/7JmC8.png[/img]
[QUOTE=Moustacheman;44351992]Prometheus fucks up the Aliens timeline though because how could they have [sp] created the Xenomorphs if the Yautja have been hunting them for thousands, if not millions of years?[/sp][/QUOTE] i'm pretty sure alien vs predator is not canon to aliens, certainly not in ridley scotts head. why the fuck would ridley scott give a fuck about avp. actually why would anyone? [editline]25th March 2014[/editline] l8 but whatever
[QUOTE=Sir Drone;44348867]It didn't help this film should of just not taken place in the same universe as Alien, did we really need to see xenomorph Jesus on the alien mural or [sp]Pope Abortion?[/so][/QUOTE] I think they should've stuck with the plot with the swarm of proto-facehuggers and xenomorphs vs marines or whatever. It sounds stupid as shit when I put it so simply but in the making-of documentary it sounded amazing. It's on twitch in HD.
If you research the history of the "Alien" film franchise, you can see it's constantly 20th Century Fox that's fucking things up. - They interfered and rewrote Alien 3 to the point that its director left the project post-production. - They shelved Scott's original Alien prequel in favour of doing AvP movies. - They hired Lindelof for the purpose of making Prometheus less of a direct Alien prequel. - They initially told Scott that Prometheus will be kept PG-13. In short, someone else needs to buy the franchise.
I thought Prometheus [I][B]looked[/B][/I] good. The special effects made me cringe when she was stuck in the medical pod with that thing.
I enjoyed Prometheus for the most part. If you can get over it being occasionally cringeworthy, the production design and Michael Bass Fender and the Dris Elba made up for it enough to make it alright.
[QUOTE=IceyMalone;44351812]While Prometheus was pretty "meh" to me, it really seems like people hate it just because it wasn't about Alien It's just a story set in the same universe with a reference to Alien, whether it was hyped as a prequel is irrelevant.[/QUOTE] The plot was awful and the idiocy of the characters made it way worse. It didn't help that people expected an Alien sequel and instead got an awful story, but the movie as its own thing was still horrible.
[QUOTE=AK'z;44349800]If you really don't have a clue what it's about, try the director's commentary.. it's good.[/QUOTE] Oh I got it. And the problem with this movie is that the more you got it the less sense it makes. In fact when watching this movie it's best if you forget that movies are supposed to have a plot.
everything about Prometheus was top notch except for the writing which was absolute shit it should be a good movie but can't quite get there because the script is total garbage
Prometheus was a very pretty movie that was the cinematic equivalent of [I]LOST[/I].
I really liked how the movie looked like. The sets, the costumes, even the CGI it all looked like some heart was put in them. But the way all those right and shiny parts were assembled just killed it. It really feels like someone has wrote the script in one go and didn't read back even a couple of pages to see if it makes sense.
[QUOTE=Azarath;44347374]Prometheus was pretty awesome so I trust ridley to pull it off.[/QUOTE] Prometheus fucking [b]sucked[/b]. There were so many blatant goofs and bad writing decisions in the film that it's baffling. It was an ok popcorn flick, but I expected better from Ridley fucking Scott.
[QUOTE=uzikus;44348011]What was so bad about Prometheus? I've seen it and it was great.[/QUOTE] Everyone in the movie had some massive fucking brain damage because jesus christ were they retarded. "Hey look at this alien lifeform, LET ME FUCKING GET NEAR IT" "Oh shit this giant circle is coming at me, let me run straight away from it instead of to the side where I can avoid it." Many other decisions that were stupid but those 2 I remember vividly.
something I noticed as well that I didn't like was the fact that it takes place before Alien but the ship is so much more up to date and hi tech. I think it would have worked better if all the technology was like a callback to that 80s-90s grimey aesthetic. Green text on black backgrounds and shit
[QUOTE=gbtygfvyg;44363963]Everyone in the movie had some massive fucking brain damage because jesus christ were they retarded. "Hey look at this alien lifeform, LET ME FUCKING GET NEAR IT" "Oh shit this giant circle is coming at me, let me run straight away from it instead of to the side where I can avoid it." Many other decisions that were stupid but those 2 I remember vividly.[/QUOTE] "i have enough faith in seven ancient carvings to send out a $3 trillion expedition with a massive ship to uncharted space 34 lightyears away, so, let's say, 12 crew members should probably do it" "i spent the first ten minutes of the film demonstrating my superhuman intellect and advanced learning capabilities as an android, now let's get in those unexplored alien caves and touch everything i can" "this is a great specimen, potentially the only one we'll find, let's do some good, careful science now, and inject it with chemicals and conduct high voltages through it to try to reanimate it!!" "black goo sealed away in containment? better spike the head of the expedition's drink with it, just to see what happens, #yolo" "we have pinpointed your location in the ruins from the ship, better pay attention to the highly detailed map and keep you safe overnight from the life form we picked up earlier--okay vickers let's go have sex in the other room" "a hissing alien snake-vagina just emerged from the slime on the ground, we're stuck here overnight without contact with the ship, as the only trained biologist, i should probably get closer and try to touch it, nothing could go wrong here" i really liked the world they built and the atmosphere and everything, but i think so much got left on the cutting room floor to keep the film under 3 hours, that the decisions made by the characters are unsupported by their backgrounds and personalities, and that really breaks the story
[QUOTE=DChapsfield;44364452]"i have enough faith in seven ancient carvings to send out a $3 trillion expedition with a massive ship to uncharted space 34 lightyears away, so, let's say, 12 crew members should probably do it" "i spent the first ten minutes of the film demonstrating my superhuman intellect and advanced learning capabilities as an android, now let's get in those unexplored alien caves and touch everything i can" "this is a great specimen, potentially the only one we'll find, let's do some good, careful science now, and inject it with chemicals and conduct high voltages through it to try to reanimate it!!" "black goo sealed away in containment? better spike the head of the expedition's drink with it, just to see what happens, #yolo" "we have pinpointed your location in the ruins from the ship, better pay attention to the highly detailed map and keep you safe overnight from the life form we picked up earlier--okay vickers let's go have sex in the other room" "a hissing alien snake-vagina just emerged from the slime on the ground, we're stuck here overnight without contact with the ship, as the only trained biologist, i should probably get closer and try to touch it, nothing could go wrong here" i really liked the world they built and the atmosphere and everything, but i think so much got left on the cutting room floor to keep the film under 3 hours, that the decisions made by the characters are unsupported by their backgrounds and personalities, and that really breaks the story[/QUOTE] You forgot the most important one. "I'm going to make $3 trillion expedition to uncharted space because we might have found some super advanced aliens and maybe I'll be able to convince them to prolong my life, and on this expedition I'm going to take the least responsible and the least professional people possible, also I'm going to make them believe that I'm dead and that the expedition is about finding where do we come from and all that jazz". Seriously, why not let them know that he's alive and that he wants to meet his makers before he dies? What was the point? It really feels like someone has wrote the outline for the script (like, they've found clues about aliens and they go there here's how, and there's a twist at the end, he's alive) and then wrote the details for those points they've made in the outline without thinking if it makes any sense from the perspective of the characters and the movie.
The thing with Prometheus is it was one of those movie where you walk out of the theater and you're like [I]"Yeah that was okay". [/I] And then you're lying in bed staring at the ceiling and it just hits you: [I]"that movie suuuuuuucked"[/I]
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