New Jersey waitress receives ‘LOL’ instead of tip on receipt - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Mr_Razzums;48539376]Tipping should be outlawed[/QUOTE] You know what? Fuck you. It's one thing to argue that a waiter shouldn't have to rely on tips to survive. That's reasonable, and I support that. But a good service person should be given a reward for good service. That means not slacking, being nice (at least as long as the customer is), basic shit like that. Most waiters, in my experience anyway, actually manage to exceed those expectations regularly. Why the fuck should it be illegal for me to throw some extra cash at them for doing a good job? Also, do you realize how much easier it is to keep track of your finances when you can use tips to round everything up to nice numbers? [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Flaming" - Big Dumb American))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=NoobieWafer223;48539221]And how many places do you know that actually reinforce that? None. Mine don't. If I walk out with $10 in tips and get a $50 paycheck... I just have to have $60 last me the week.[/QUOTE] so let me get this right... your employer is breaking the law and you expect the customer to shell out indiscriminately so you're not affected by it?

[QUOTE=Flash_Fire;48539236]living wage[/QUOTE] God that term annoys me so much

[QUOTE=Archonos 2;48540127]A lot of places won't do this but will instead simply assume you don't know this information.[/QUOTE] This right here.

since most restaurants take a huge chunk of the waiters tips, of course I wouldn't tip if I had to wait 1 hour for my food.

I never realised how easy restaurant owners have it. Wages as low as $2.50/h per employee and they take a percentage of customer tips? Maybe I should change my career

[QUOTE=Map in a box;48540378]since most restaurants take a huge chunk of the waiters tips, of course I wouldn't tip if I had to wait 1 hour for my food.[/QUOTE] For that large of an order, they should have at least left some tip; it's not her fault the kitchen took so long to make the food. Also, writing "LOL" instead of no tip doesn't help the situation and is just rude.

The size of the order does not reflect how much I'd tip. I tip based on service performance. If they are exemplary, I tip a lot. If they're garbage and you have to wait an hour to get your food, then nothing. The waiter rarely gets a good amount from the tip so why would you give extra money to a restaurant that simply proved they're awful?

Man all this talk about tipping makes me confused. It's exactly why I eat at MacD's abroad. I don't know how and how much to tip, so I end up avoiding proper restaurants. I just want to know much I have to pay by reading the menu, we don't do tips commonly around here so if it says 12,50 on the menu, then 12,50 is how much one has to pay.

I mean, I think it was pretty dickish to deny gratuity that way, but then I don't exactly agree with gratuity/tipping very much anymore either. It should be the employers duty to ensure the workers at any eatery make a decent living wage, because as insensitive as it sounds, I don't feel it's my obligation to have to pay the significant chunk of their earnings. If it's a huge issue, workers should do their best to push for some significant changes with how much waitresses and waiters get paid across the country so the whole "customary" tipping thing for restaurants can go away.

[QUOTE=Notanything;48540586]I mean, I think it was pretty dickish to deny gratuity that way, but then I don't exactly agree with gratuity/tipping very much anymore either. It should be the employers duty to ensure the workers at any eatery make a decent living wage, because as insensitive as it sounds, I don't feel it's my obligation to have to pay the significant chunk of their earnings. If it's a huge issue, workers should do their best to push for some significant changes with how much waitresses and waiters get paid across the country so the whole "customary" tipping thing for restaurants can go away.[/QUOTE] You're going to be paying for it either way. Whether it's tipping or higher food prices for the increased wage.

[QUOTE=BFG9000;48540333]God that term annoys me so much[/QUOTE] Ughh I know right? How dare people want to be paid enough to actually afford housing, bills and necessities. They should just quit their jobs, pull themselves up by their bootstraps and run lemonade stands if they don't like their pay! Fucking parasites!

[QUOTE=Mr_Razzums;48539376]Tipping should be outlawed[/QUOTE] No. I literally wouldn't make enough money to live then.

[QUOTE=Flash_Fire;48539236]tips are stupid, outdated idea that needs to die how about pay your employees and living wage instead[/QUOTE] They are only a thing in America to be honest Me and my friends were in some restaurant and the meal costed 1000 HUF. We paid with a 2000 note and told the guy to give back from only 1500, so he'd get 500 extra as a tip and he got confused.

[QUOTE=Notanything;48540586]I mean, I think it was pretty dickish to deny gratuity that way, but then I don't exactly agree with gratuity/tipping very much anymore either. It should be the employers duty to ensure the workers at any eatery make a decent living wage, because as insensitive as it sounds, I don't feel it's my obligation to have to pay the significant chunk of their earnings. If it's a huge issue, workers should do their best to push for some significant changes with how much waitresses and waiters get paid across the country so the whole "customary" tipping thing for restaurants can go away.[/QUOTE] Yeah, you realize that its literally impossible for a group like table staff to unionize right? They're disposable, so we treat them like that. Unions just make them unappealing. Wait staff and table staff are treated like garbage depending on the establishment. Nice and fancy restaurants higher handsome and beautiful staff only, so you're boned if you're not attractive enough to get a high end wait job. [editline]25th August 2015[/editline] I'm just glad I'm in Canada, where I make a decent minimum, but in a crazy expensive city its pretty balanced out and still hard to make ends meet.

with such a high minimum wage in canada i'm not sure why i even tip

Reading through the thread and wondering, why tips are a big deal? I visited some restaurants and there weren't any tip jars or any mention of tips, you can leave some money for the waiter with your payment, but it's not required - some do it, some don't. I guess things are different deep in Ural?

separate thing from 2yr ago [t]http://i.imgur.com/kQLPS.png[/t] [QUOTE=VintageCat;48541064]Reading through the thread and wondering, why tips are a big deal? I visited sone restaurantS and there weren't any tip jars or any mention of tips, you can leave some money for the waiter with your payment, but it's not required - some do it, some don't. I guess thing are different deep in Ural?[/QUOTE] outside of the US people think that if you don't tip you're gonna have a bad time the next time you come back to the restaurant for some reason others are the same people who buy diamonds for their SO

I really think that giving waiters less because they earn tips is archaic, stupid, and really just a bad idea. One of my old high school friends serves and he throws a fit if he gets a low or no tip because that affects his take-home for the day. Having like 75% of your wage be variable based on ultimately whether or not someone you serve decides to give you money is pretty stupid; more often than not I think reasons for low or no tips are not really valid reasons at all. Granted I know shit about money so this may be a financially invalid justification, but who knows.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;48539682]Can places just pay their workers good wages instead of relying on tips? It seems like an archaic practice leftover from the middle ages when nobles gave their servants scraps for good behavior.[/QUOTE] When I applied for a restaurant I was told no. You make 2.50 an hour because it's 'unproductive' work (lol), and instead you provide a service which should be paid based on quality, at the customer's discretion. This was before the federal labor standards law on tipped employees and the tip credit stuff. The system has potential to make more than minimum wage and they pitched this, but at a 'restaurant' like pizza hut that didn't get much activity or have very expensive orders, you would just make less.

As far as food service/tipping jobs go, several of my friends were pizza delivery guys and it wasn't horrible. They got paid real minimum wage, got paid for mileage, and got some decent tips.

I don't see a problem with this to be completely honest. You tip for good service, a guy didn't receive good service. It was the cook's fault not the waiters. Okay, that's still bad service. Oh it was a 100 dollar bill he rung up the waitress could have made a good tip. Yeah, could have. Oh but she warned the diners the kitchen was running slow. That's the only dickish part of the thing in this and the only real good point made. She's angry because she survives off tips, broken system that still pays her wage difference if she doesn't make enough in tips

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;48540813]No. I literally wouldn't make enough money to live then.[/QUOTE] Ban tipping, implement decent wage. It's pretty standard in most European countries to get paid decent wage in services that usually rely on tipping.

[QUOTE=Reagy;48539326]Swipe and sign is such a outdated and insecure method of payment, I'm still amazed the US still fucking uses it. Its so rare to find a US card with a chip on it even though they are trying to introduce chip and pin. Hell if you come to europe some of the cards we issue don't even have a magnetic strip anymore.[/QUOTE] They're switching over our cards this year. I've already received new chip cards for my credit/debit cards. My new Target debit card doesn't have a magnetic strip.

I wonder if the waitress just gave shitty service. There's been times when I don't tip cause the server sucks.

[QUOTE=Zero-Point;48539639]If my dad ever got shit service, he would put a penny in a glass of water, use the menu to flip the glass without spilling it, and then place it on the table and pull the menu out.[/QUOTE] Your dad is a fucking asshole.

Tipping is so weird.

[QUOTE=Flash_Fire;48539236]tips are stupid, outdated idea that needs to die how about pay your employees and living wage instead[/QUOTE] I used to walk out with $200 in my hand every night for 6 hours of work. The pay isn't bad. It averaged out to over $20/hr most of the time [editline]26th August 2015[/editline] Oh and it's new jersey. $100 most of the time is a nice meal and a few drinks for two at a decent restaurant [editline]26th August 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=cqbcat;48542740]I wonder if the waitress just gave shitty service. There's been times when I don't tip cause the server sucks.[/QUOTE] Did you happen to write "1 hour for food" on the check too lol

[QUOTE=lavacano;48540129]You know what? Fuck you. It's one thing to argue that a waiter shouldn't have to rely on tips to survive. That's reasonable, and I support that. But a good service person should be given a reward for good service. That means not slacking, being nice (at least as long as the customer is), basic shit like that. Most waiters, in my experience anyway, actually manage to exceed those expectations regularly. Why the fuck should it be illegal for me to throw some extra cash at them for doing a good job? Also, do you realize how much easier it is to keep track of your finances when you can use tips to round everything up to nice numbers?[/QUOTE] My god you people get real salty about what amounts to bringing out food and cleaning. [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;48540813]No. I literally wouldn't make enough money to live then.[/QUOTE] Then that's a problem with minimum vs livable wage.

[QUOTE=hexpunK;48540784]Ughh I know right? How dare people want to be paid enough to actually afford housing, bills and necessities. They should just quit their jobs, pull themselves up by their bootstraps and run lemonade stands if they don't like their pay! Fucking parasites![/QUOTE] lol nice, your sarcasm is especially spot on in a society like ours where liberal economic policies don't drive up the cost of living oh wait