New Jersey waitress receives ‘LOL’ instead of tip on receipt - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Levelog;48539230]Who the fuck doesn't tip their bartender? Bartenders are probably the service employees I tip the most, because ya know, they give me my alcohol.[/QUOTE] Depends very much on where you live, and what sort of logic you've grown up with. I've never tipped anyone, and I never will :v:

[QUOTE=paul simon;48543053]Depends very much on where you live, and what sort of logic you've grown up with. I've never tipped anyone, and I never will :v:[/QUOTE] Is this a European thing? I've had people from Germany (iirc) tell me that they were surprised at how much tips are a thing in America

[QUOTE=NoobieWafer223;48539203]When will people realize that 95% of the time when your food is late, ITS THE COOK'S FAULT. The other 5% is where we're too busy and must've forgotten. I'd probably leave in a really big huff if that were me. Actually happened to our Bartender on Saturday, he had a $102.82 tab, with him making drinks over and over again for these people. Had I known, I'd have stepped in and served so I could get a tip and share, but.. Nothing. Nada. Not a cent. Literally put 0 on the Tip line. Worst part is? The customer was good friends with our veteran server... So, it didn't make sense and it pissed us both off. Even though I didn't serve them.[/QUOTE] You tip the whole team though. The cooks, the waiters, the barman, the barista. They all take part in forming your experience. And in case of cooks your food too. I say this because tips are split between all these people, it's common knowledge. So by tipping you show your gratification to the whole restaurant, not just the waiter.

[QUOTE=BFG9000;48543246]Is this a European thing? I've had people from Germany (iirc) tell me that they were surprised at how much tips are a thing in America[/QUOTE] It's a thing in countries where workers aren't expected to earn part of their pay through tips.

[QUOTE=agentfazexx;48539275] $2.50 is a normal wage for people who work for tips.[/QUOTE] Maybe 80 years ago. We got tips over here as well, and we make literally triple that hourly wage AT LEAST.

[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;48547882]Maybe 80 years ago. We got tips over here as well, and we make literally triple that hourly wage AT LEAST.[/QUOTE] Higher cost of living. Salaries in the Baltimore/DC area are way higher than the rest of the country for that reason.

[QUOTE=Cronos Dage;48541049]with such a high minimum wage in canada i'm not sure why i even tip[/QUOTE] can't really say high minimum in Canada in general

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[QUOTE=paul simon;48543545]It's a thing in countries where workers aren't expected to earn part of their pay through tips.[/QUOTE] But the thing is, in America, being a waiter is supposed to be a relatively cushy job compared to other jobs of similar paygrade because not only are you getting a wage, but you're also getting tips on top of that which is almost guaranteed as long as you do your job decently.

[QUOTE=Perfumly;48539652]is it weird that your dad does things that a middleschooler would do? Do you try to ignore it?[/QUOTE] If you think that's something a middle-schooler would do, then allow me to bore you with the tale of his burning a gummy bear in Golden Corral, and then having a funeral procession for it in my mom's mashed potatoes. He is a 12 year-old in a 50 year-old's body, the very embodiment of "man-child". [editline]26th August 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=geel9;48542765]Your dad is a fucking asshole.[/QUOTE] That's the tip of the iceberg concerning how much of a dick he can be, sadly. :/

[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;48543292]You tip the whole team though. The cooks, the waiters, the barman, the barista. They all take part in forming your experience. And in case of cooks your food too. I say this because tips are split between all these people, it's common knowledge. So by tipping you show your gratification to the whole restaurant, not just the waiter.[/QUOTE] I tip out when I can afford it. I gave him $15 to make up for that shitty tab. [editline]27th August 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=BFG9000;48548154]But the thing is, in America, being a waiter is supposed to be a relatively cushy job compared to other jobs of similar paygrade because not only are you getting a wage, but you're also getting tips on top of that which is almost guaranteed as long as you do your job decently.[/QUOTE] Yes, constantly walking back and fourth for about 7-9 hours a few days in a row, making sure you're on point and on time with delivering, not to mention balancing, multiple orders at a time and having the customer's experience/happiness/etc depend mostly on your own attitude. You're not allowed to have a bad day. You can't sit down unless you work at a place that gives breaks; I don't get one. 9 times out of 10, I'll hear the complaints before anyone else which mostly reflects on my job which I try my hardest to accomplish with as bad of a back as I have. And not to mention, with the low wage, tipping is just sort of, YES, how we make a living. I bounce between allotted tips through the weekend, back to a paycheck of barely $150 with 40 hours.. BOUNCE. Not balance. And after all that huff, puff, and being driven crazy from customer's all day cause I'M THE ONE THAT HAS TO DEAL WITH THEM MOSTLY; I have to give some of my own hard-earned tip money to other staff. I'm sorry, but dealing with inconsistent customers is a bit harder than frying the same burger, or making the same drink, every night. Yes, so cushy.

[QUOTE=Kylel999;48542875]I used to walk out with $200 in my hand every night for 6 hours of work. The pay isn't bad. It averaged out to over $20/hr most of the time [editline]26th August 2015[/editline] Oh and it's new jersey. $100 most of the time is a nice meal and a few drinks for two at a decent restaurant [editline]26th August 2015[/editline] Did you happen to write "1 hour for food" on the check too lol[/QUOTE] No, I tip based on the service of the server, not the screw ups in the kitchen. If they're attentive and have a pleasant mood, I tip them fairly.

[QUOTE=BFG9000;48548154]But the thing is, in America, being a waiter is supposed to be a relatively cushy job compared to other jobs of similar paygrade because not only are you getting a wage, but you're also getting tips on top of that which is almost guaranteed as long as you do your job decently.[/QUOTE] Anybody who says being a waiter is a (relatively) cushy job has never actually seen the shit we have to deal with.

Waiters and waitresses don't work for me, they work for the restaurant. I shouldn't be the one paying them, the restaurant should. If that means that I have to pay more for my meal then so be it, I don't want to be pressured into tipping or otherwise be labelled an asshole.

[QUOTE=Thlis;48539186] At what point do we start shaming people for giving a low tip? Why not point this righteous furry at the restaurants for not paying the servers enough.[/QUOTE] or the governments that set the dumb standards to begin with?

[QUOTE=Headhumpy;48551197]Waiters and waitresses don't work for me, they work for the restaurant. I shouldn't be the one paying them, the restaurant should.[/quote] yep the restaurants really should be paying em but the multi-million dollar restaurant industry lobbyists are seeing to it that they don't so eat out and tip well, or go to mcdonald's [quote]If that means that I have to pay more for my meal then so be it, I don't want to be pressured into tipping or otherwise be labelled an asshole.[/QUOTE] so you're saying that you're willing to pay the same final price as long as you don't have to give any money to the server?

[QUOTE=NoobieWafer223;48539203]When will people realize that 95% of the time when your food is late, ITS THE COOK'S FAULT. The other 5% is where we're too busy and must've forgotten. I'd probably leave in a really big huff if that were me. Actually happened to our Bartender on Saturday, he had a $102.82 tab, with him making drinks over and over again for these people. Had I known, I'd have stepped in and served so I could get a tip and share, but.. Nothing. Nada. Not a cent. Literally put 0 on the Tip line. Worst part is? The customer was good friends with our veteran server... So, it didn't make sense and it pissed us both off. Even though I didn't serve them.[/QUOTE] The customer has only one way of expressing his opinion on the food and service - the tip.

[QUOTE=Stopper;48551670]The customer has only one way of expressing his opinion on the food and service - the tip.[/QUOTE] i mean that's completely false but w/e

[QUOTE=Stopper;48551670]The customer has only one way of expressing his opinion on the food and service - the tip.[/QUOTE] Maybe if you're a walking wallet, and have no mouth with which to speak.

[QUOTE=Lord of Ears;48551648] so you're saying that you're willing to pay the same final price as long as you don't have to give any money to the server?[/QUOTE] Yes, because it gives him an official way to have a (steady?) income that doesn't rely on the customer's will. I already am, in fact. (Also, this changes between countries, but in some you're allowed to give a tip on top of that. And it can be a single Euro and they'll still be happy about it because their wage doesn't depend on it, so it's an [I]extra [/I]euro.)

[QUOTE=Lord of Ears;48551648]yep the restaurants really should be paying em but the multi-million dollar restaurant industry lobbyists are seeing to it that they don't so eat out and tip well, or go to mcdonald's so you're saying that you're willing to pay the same final price as long as you don't have to give any money to the server?[/QUOTE] I like how you go straight to the corporate bogeyman when really most restaurants are local businesses that lack any kind of industry representation. Also, way to take my point out of context. I'm saying that tipping shouldn't be culturally enforced, because it seems to me that in America, if you eat at a restaurant and don't tip, a lot of people will think that you are an asshole. And again, I'm not the one who should be deciding the waiter's pay, because the waiter is not my employee. He is an employee of the restaurant, and therefore his wage should be set by the restaurant. Coment gets it.

[QUOTE=paul simon;48551774]Maybe if you're a walking wallet, and have no mouth with which to speak.[/QUOTE]What you say means fuck all if you tip anyway.

The following states require restaurant owners to pay waiters at least minimum wage BEFORE tips. [url]http://www.dol.gov/whd/state/tipped.htm[/url] (see the light gray states) Restaurant food is not any more expensive in these states than the other states. I know, because I live in one of them.

[QUOTE=Headhumpy;48551898]I like how you go straight to the corporate bogeyman when really [B]most restaurants are local businesses that lack any kind of industry representation.[/B][/QUOTE] [citation needed] [URL="https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000150"]anyways, the NRA (national restaurant association) regularly contributes upwards of $2m yearly [/URL][URL="http://www.prwatch.org/news/2014/04/12444/nra-political-spending"]towards ensuring that tipped staff minimum wage doesn't increase[/URL] [quote]Also, way to take my point out of context. I'm saying that tipping shouldn't be culturally enforced, because it seems to me that in America, if you eat at a restaurant and don't tip, a lot of people will think that you are an asshole.[/quote] you know what? you're entirely fucking right, the $2.13 tipped staff minimum is fucking awful and needs to go away forever, but thanks to the aforementioned NRA contributions, it's not going anywhere while we still have this broken-ass money-throwing congressional lobby culture so for now, yes, you really are an asshole if you eat at a restaurant in the US and don't tip [quote]And again, I'm not the one who should be deciding the waiter's pay, because the waiter is not my employee. He is an employee of the restaurant, and therefore his wage should be set by the restaurant.[/quote] that's a beautiful little ideology you have there but it's also nonexistent in practice in most states so please, if you ever find yourself in the US, change your viewpoint or don't eat out

Alternatively, if people tipped less (or not at all) it would cause a crisis for the industry. Longer term, tipping is actually on the decline in America: [url]http://articles.latimes.com/2014/mar/10/business/la-fi-mo-americans-bad-tippers-survey-20140310[/url] [QUOTE=Lord of Ears;48555627]so please, if you ever find yourself in the US, change your viewpoint or don't eat out[/QUOTE] Sod that, I'll eat out without paying tips. People don't tip the cooks who prepare the food, it's inconsistent.

Cooks do 'productive' work and are paid at least minimum wage. Waiters are service, so they make less. Its not inconsistent. This is employer logic. [Quote]Sod that, I'll eat out without paying tips.[/quote] Then you're part of the problem and will get the service you deserve.

[QUOTE=Conscript;48555895]Cooks do 'productive' work and are paid at least minimum wage. Waiters are service, so they make less. Its not inconsistent. This is employer logic.[/quote] It's a very strange logic. [Quote]Then you're part of the problem and will get the service you deserve.[/QUOTE] The problem is employers not paying their workers enough. One of the subtle impacts of tipping is that it depresses the wages of black people, who consistently receive less tips than their white counterparts. Not to mention that tips rewarded are often at random, and have little impact on the service. Also not to mention that foreigners and ethnic minorities are discriminated against by service staff because they are viewed as being stingy (which in turn leads to them being less likely to tip an asshole waiter). I'm not part of the problem, tipping culture is.

[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;48543292]You tip the whole team though. The cooks, the waiters, the barman, the barista. They all take part in forming your experience. And in case of cooks your food too. I say this because tips are split between all these people, it's common knowledge. So by tipping you show your gratification to the whole restaurant, not just the waiter.[/QUOTE] not at all. common practice is to give the entire tip to the waiter

[QUOTE=.Lain;48555968]not at all. common practice is to give the entire tip to the waiter[/QUOTE] Cooks are usually paid damn well too.

mandatory tipping is an idiotic and arbitratry practice. the restaraunt should already be making their profit from the menu, not mandatory gratuity i liked tips when i was a waitress. never expected it from customers because i got paid properly. that's how it should always be, a bonus rather than a given