Venezuela Doesn't Have Enough Money to Pay for Its Money - Polidicks

[QUOTE=mr kjerr;50216221]not an argument[/QUOTE] So you disagree that Tzarist Russia was lit as fuck?

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50216224]Thanks for taking my bait now I know to ignore you. Obvious troll is stupidly obvious.[/QUOTE] so you're saying the nazis weren't socialists?

[QUOTE=mr kjerr;50216220]you're right! the nazis were socialist too! man isn't it just weird how must socialist/communist countries end up being total evil?[/QUOTE] At this point this is less an argument and more people desperately trying to explain basic history to you.

Bro, ban this kid, he doesn't even know that Czarist Russia was fucking LIT.

[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_socialism[/url] I'm just going to leave this here for you people to educate yourselves just a tad. Won't help, but I'm fucking done wasting my time arguing basic, basic fucking shit.

[QUOTE=mr kjerr;50216236]so you're saying the nazis weren't socialists?[/QUOTE] no they weren't even remotely socialists

[QUOTE=Kyle902;50216237]At this point this is less an argument and more people desperately trying to explain basic history to you.[/QUOTE] "desperately trying to explain basic history" what? if you knew basic history, and cared to be intellectually honest ([I]thats the key part[/I]) you'd see that socialism, marxism, communism, leninism, all that great stuff, has failed. [editline]28th April 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50216244][url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_socialism[/url] I'm just going to leave this here for you people to educate yourselves just a tad. Won't help, but I'm fucking done wasting my time arguing basic, basic fucking shit.[/QUOTE] did you know hugo chavez was a democratic socialist too? [editline]28th April 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50216247]no they weren't even remotely socialists[/QUOTE] great! so what were they?

[QUOTE=mr kjerr;50216221]not an argument[/QUOTE] Pretty hypocritical of you to call someone out at that when all of your posts thus far have been less an argument and more a display of clear ignorance of the subject matter.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50216244][url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_socialism[/url] I'm just going to leave this here for you people to educate yourselves just a tad. Won't help, but I'm fucking done wasting my time arguing basic, basic fucking shit.[/QUOTE] I feel sorry for whoever his history teacher was.

[QUOTE=mr kjerr;50216248]"desperately trying to explain basic history" what? if you knew basic history, and cared to be intellectually honest ([I]thats the key part[/I]) you'd see that socialism, marxism, communism, leninism, all that great stuff, has failed.[/QUOTE] no please just stop you're not funny clever smart or interesting, you're not bringing anything new to the table you are literally uneducated about this issue as even the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, is a socialist democracy

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50216256]no please just stop you're not funny clever smart or interesting, you're not bringing anything new to the table you are literally uneducated about this issue as even the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, is a socialist democracy[/QUOTE] you're absolutely right! and we've been on an economic downturn ever since adopting socialist policies. interesting huh?

[QUOTE=mr kjerr;50216248]"desperately trying to explain basic history" what? if you knew basic history, and cared to be intellectually honest ([I]thats the key part[/I]) you'd see that socialism, marxism, communism, leninism, all that great stuff, has failed. [editline]28th April 2016[/editline] did you know hugo chavez was a democratic socialist too? [editline]28th April 2016[/editline] great! so what were they?[/QUOTE] Did you know Reagan was a democratic socialist? The nazis were fascist dictators led by one guy. Why the fuck am I still replying to you trying to teach you basic history

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50216244][url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_socialism[/url] I'm just going to leave this here for you people to educate yourselves just a tad. Won't help, but I'm fucking done wasting my time arguing basic, basic fucking shit.[/QUOTE] Who is this directed at? Why does this matter? There's never been a society which has been democratic socialist anyways. Unless you're confusing it with social democracy (easy mistake), something which is actually used all throughout Europe.

[QUOTE=mr kjerr;50216149]awesome. show me a capitalist country that was run into the ground exclusively by the free market and without government intervention[/quote] Quite easy, as America in the 1920s is a great example of this. The stock market crash is widely attributed to shit like Margin buying and other schemes that could only happen with an unrestricted market place. Luckily we had FDR swoop in with some socialist policies to rebuild America. [quote]welfare states after a long period of open and free markets you mean[/QUOTE] Which is what socialism is nowadays. Watch the god damn video.

[QUOTE=mr kjerr;50216257]you're absolutely right! and we've been on an economic downturn ever since adopting socialist policies. interesting huh?[/QUOTE] What you mean you've been on an economic downturn since July 4th 1776?

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50216258]Did you know Reagan was a democratic socialist? The nazis were fascist dictators led by one guy. Why the fuck am I still replying to you trying to teach you basic history[/QUOTE] fascism is just authoritarian socialism dude, hate to break it to you.

"guys stop proving me wrong about my distorted deception about history!!!!" just report for trolling and move on, arguing is pointless

[QUOTE=mr kjerr;50216236]so you're saying the nazis weren't socialists?[/QUOTE] I have a question Kjerr, if someone says that they're a certain thing, is that always true?

[IMG]https://facepunch.com/image.php?u=513665&dateline=1432152766[/IMG] MFW I realized Czarist Russia was lit as fuck until the proletariat scum-fucks kicked out my boi Nicholas II. #NeverForget #PrayForNicholas #LitAsFuck

[QUOTE=sb27;50216261]Who is this directed at? Why does this matter? There's never been a society which has been democratic socialist anyways. Unless you're confusing it with social democracy (easy mistake), something which is actually used all throughout Europe.[/QUOTE] Oh okay then I guess you're the person we should listen to and not you know, wikipedia which says you're wrong but then again, the great sb27 of facepunch is here to set the record straight for the whole rest of the world.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50216265]What you mean you've been on an economic downturn since July 4th 1776?[/QUOTE] you're serious? the united states was clearly founded with minarchist thought in mind. [editline]28th April 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Reshy;50216269]I have a question Kjerr, if someone says that they're a certain thing, is that always true?[/QUOTE] no, but you can look at nazi policies and see that they were very clearly socialists.

[QUOTE=mr kjerr;50216248]"desperately trying to explain basic history" what? if you knew basic history, and cared to be intellectually honest ([I]thats the key part[/I]) you'd see that socialism, marxism, communism, leninism, all that great stuff, has failed [/QUOTE] I dont deny that quite a few countries following that business model have failed. But your statement that the sole reason that countries such as the USSR were shit was because of their economic model shows that you lack a basic understanding of very basic history.

[QUOTE=sb27;50216261]Who is this directed at? Why does this matter? There's never been a society which has been democratic socialist anyways. Unless you're confusing it with social democracy (easy mistake), something which is actually used all throughout Europe.[/QUOTE] Damn dude you're right! [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_democratic_socialist_parties_which_have_governed"]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_democratic_socialist_parties_which_have_governed[/URL]

[QUOTE=Kyle902;50216286]I dont deny that quite a few countries following that business model have failed. But your statement that the sole reason that countries such as the USSR were shit was because of their economic model shows that you lack a basic understanding of very basic history.[/QUOTE] im not saying thats the sole reason, but its a huge contributing factor that wouldnt be there otherwise.

[QUOTE=mr kjerr;50216257]you're absolutely right! and we've been on an economic downturn ever since adopting socialist policies. interesting huh?[/QUOTE] you know the 1950s was the most prosperous time in US history, it was also the time when our social safety nets were their strongest. it was the time when tens of thousands of engineers were churned out thanks to free college on the GI bill, millions of men graduated college marched into the workplace, meanwhile the new social security kept the elderly who had lost 20 years of income to the depression and ww2, from living in poverty. health programs kept children fed in school, schools were fully funded

[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;50216287]Damn dude you're right! [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_democratic_socialist_parties_which_have_governed"]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_democratic_socialist_parties_which_have_governed[/URL][/QUOTE] interesting that you should send that list. if you go down and do some research, you'll find that a majority of those states fell in to disarray after that party came into power.

[QUOTE=mr kjerr;50216281]you're serious? the united states was clearly founded with minarchist thought in mind. no, but you can look at nazi policies and see that they were very clearly socialists.[/QUOTE] Every dictatorship calls themselves something "people friendly." Like the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;50216287]Damn dude you're right! [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_democratic_socialist_parties_which_have_governed"]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_democratic_socialist_parties_which_have_governed[/URL][/QUOTE] Wow look at these backwards third world shitholes... "Britain" "Australia" "NORWAY" OMG AND "GERMANY"! I THOUGHT THEY WERE THE ECONOMIC POWERHOUSE OF EUROPE RIGHT NOW!!!! WHAT HAPPENED??!?!?!?!!!!

[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;50216287]Damn dude you're right! [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_democratic_socialist_parties_which_have_governed"]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_democratic_socialist_parties_which_have_governed[/URL][/QUOTE] The Communist Party of China governs China. Doesn't mean that China's communist. Just because a party identifies as something doesn't mean that it is that thing. The Australian Labor Party identifies as democratic socialist, but it is at the most a social democracy party.

[QUOTE=mr kjerr;50216291]interesting that you should send that list. if you go down and do some research, you'll find that a majority of those states fell in to disarray after that party came into power.[/QUOTE] Yeah, Australia collapsed after Labor came into power and prevented our economy from failing when the recession happened in 2008.