"Radiation levels in Fukushima Daiichi plant central control unit is 1,000 times normal"
Seen that on Reuters...
Chernobyl all over again. Anyone?
It started the same way. Overheating.
I hope for everyones sake that they maintained their nuclear reactor well, aswell as keeping the security measures strict.
[QUOTE=Nerts;28548671]Except they can't, some of the plant isn't recieving power. (:irony:)[/QUOTE]
Shouldn't the rods automatically lower as soon as there's a power loss since they are being held up by power? At least that's what the nuclear energy PR guy said when we visited a power plant once (it was aaaawesome by the way).
wait
Goddammit I deserve all the boxes in the world but Kanto is a real place? I just thought it was some silly named pokemon town.
Hopefully if a meltdown starts they will contain it inside the plant. The reactor probably doesn't meet the requirements of blowing a good chunk of their roof off if a pressure buildup happens.
[QUOTE=croguy;28550045]Hopefully if a meltdown starts they will [B]contaminate[/B] it inside the plant. They probably don't meet the requirements of blowing a good chunk of their roof off if a pressure buildup happens.[/QUOTE]
Er... You mean [B]contain[/B] it inside the plant.
Right?
Holy fuck, this has been a really wild day.
[QUOTE=blazingfly;28550015]Seriously, how is this happening? I thought most, if not all modern reactors were fitted with security devices upon safety devices upon more security devices that ensure should the temperature go too high, the reactor auto-shutdowns, and completely quenches the core?[/QUOTE]
They're damaged.
[QUOTE=Scar;28548502]Well, a meltdown would suck for millions, but would also be a good laugh for this sadistic fuck right here
[/QUOTE]
oh hey look i don't care about people dying i'm so cool because i don't care
[QUOTE=archangel125;28550063]Er... You mean [B]contain[/B] it inside the plant.
Right?[/QUOTE]
Oh derp yea, contain. It's so late and I'm so tired I type everything worng.
[QUOTE=blazingfly;28550015]Seriously, how is this happening? I thought most, if not all modern reactors were fitted with security devices upon safety devices upon more security devices that ensure should the temperature go too high, the reactor auto-shutdowns, and completely quenches the core?[/QUOTE]
I rate you "bad reading".
The reactors have [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scram]SCRAM[/url]ed, however they can't quench the cores because the pumps have failed to start on emerency power or they can't get them up to speed so the line between the generators and the pumps has likely been damaged.
[QUOTE=Deiru;28550017]"Radiation levels in Fukushima Daiichi plant central control unit is 1,000 times normal"
Seen that on Reuters...[/QUOTE]
Confirmed, also on Japanese news; current evac range is 10km, and reason for radiation leak is caused by not reacting to the situation quickly enough
[QUOTE=Robber;28550022]Shouldn't the rods automatically lower as soon as there's a power loss since they are being held up by power? At least that's what the nuclear energy PR guy said when we visited a power plant once (it was aaaawesome by the way).[/QUOTE]
This is what i'm thinking... Why do they not just shut down the reactor entirely? Should power fail to the reactor, the electromagnets holding up the control rods should shut off and the rods would drop, which should kill the nuclear reaction 'within five seconds'.
It's the same process that happens during a SCRAM. They say the coolant system is damaged, so they can't get rid of the excess heat building up.
What I think happened is that the control rods did lower, and the reactor is off, but the radioactive material is still decaying, and producing decay heat that the reactor cannot deal with.
From wikipedia:
[quote]The removal of the decay heat is a significant reactor safety concern, especially shortly after normal shutdown or following a loss of coolant accident. Failure to remove decay heat may cause the reactor core temperature to rise to dangerous levels and has caused nuclear accidents, including the nuclear accident at Three Mile Island. The heat removal is usually achieved through several redundant and diverse systems, and the heat is often dissipated to an 'ultimate heat sink' which has a large capacity and requires no active power, though this method is typically used after decay heat has reduced to a very small value.[/quote]
I just read on twitter that Radiation is 1,000 times higher than normal at the moment.
[url]http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/03/76948.html[/url]
Source doesn't seem to load though
damn ninjas :saddowns:
[QUOTE=Marlamin;28550188]I just read on twitter that Radiation is 1,000 times higher than normal at the moment.
[url]http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/03/76948.html[/url]
Source doesn't seem to load though
damn ninjas :saddowns:[/QUOTE]
Seen similar news, but that only applies to the control room of the plant, from what i have seen.
Reuters reports the same, only the control room you say? Imagine that level with the level at the actual fuel rods, that could be over 5,000 times the normal dosis.
Why don't they use all that water they have. :downs:
[QUOTE=gamefreek76;28550229]Why don't they use all that water they have. :downs:[/QUOTE]
Steam explosion. :downs:
Citizens of the area are currently being evac'd by bus
[QUOTE=blazingfly;28550251]Steam explosion. :downs:[/QUOTE]
And because at the level of heat the reactors are likely producing at this time, water will evaporate before it even touches the damn thing. Which builds pressure, in turn generating even MORE heat.
Gotten from RTE news
[quote] AFP is reporting that radiation levels are now 1,000 times above normal at the Fukushima nuclear plant.
Meanwhile, the US military now says it did not provide any coolant for the reactor, as had previously been reported.
One US official told AFP a short time ago that Japan had asked the US for the coolant but ultimately decided to handle the matter on its own.[/quote]
[QUOTE=crazysack;28550271]Gotten from RTE news[/QUOTE]
Because asking for help is for pussies. :colbert:
[QUOTE=crazysack;28550271]Gotten from RTE news[/QUOTE]
Apparently it was Hilary Clinton who said that thing about the coolant.
...the coolant for this power plant is water. :downs:
[QUOTE=Turnips5;28550303]Apparently it was Hilary Clinton who said that thing about the coolant.
...the coolant for this power plant is water. :downs:[/QUOTE]
Water is a terrible coolant?
[QUOTE=blazingfly;28550283]Because asking for help is for pussies. :colbert:[/QUOTE]
There could be many reasons for them turning it down. They didn't expect it to get this bad. It's the fact it's happening faster than they can react is the problem.
Apparentlt it's at a critical level and they can't get the back up generators on. This is not good
This all has to happen at once doesn't it?
Can't happen over a period of a few years, has to happen in a few moments...
:ohdear:
[QUOTE=blazingfly;28550315]Water is a terrible coolant?[/QUOTE]
No, I'm just saying that H.Clinton doesn't know what the fuck she's talking about. They didn't fly any coolant in, because the coolant is simply water, and Japan doesn't need water flown in from the USA.
[QUOTE=Paravin;28548444]This must not happen. I won't allow Japan to ruin my Stalker universe.[/QUOTE]
Paravin, imagine your fucked up stories taking place in Japan! IT WOULD BE NORMAL!
And instead of Russians, you'd see a bunch of fucking cosplayers running around getting shot at.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;28550349]Apparentlt it's at a critical level and they can't get the back up generators on. This is not good[/QUOTE]
Even if it does go, we're looking at a Three Mile Island type failure, which released less radiation into the atmosphere than eating a banana would give you.
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