• Monthly Heat Records Have Increased Worldwide by a Factor of Five.
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[QUOTE=Azza;39225930]I highly doubt this is human induced climate change. We're thousands of years overdue for an ice-age, and leading up to an ice-age there are moments of climate instability.[/QUOTE] There are trends above the background noise of the data that would be there from natural cycles, and averages in nature. As mentioned in the article: "Today, this increase is already so large that by far most monthly heat records are due to climate change. The science is clear that only a small fraction would have occurred naturally." There would be no statistical significance to background noise of natural cycles if it was purely a natural contribution. This is not the case, there is very strong deviations, and the rate is exponential. Catastrophic global events that could contribute have not been happening exponentially to correlate with these observations. [B]Just come to fucking terms with it.[/B]
[QUOTE=Azza;39225930]I highly doubt this is human induced climate change. We're thousands of years overdue for an ice-age, and leading up to an ice-age there are moments of climate instability.[/QUOTE]Well then you're wrong.
It's been so cold where I live in Northern California that half of the house in my town have no water due to frozen pipes. We have cold winters every year, but never anything this severe. We've been pushing -20* Fahrenheit for over a week now. I would definitely take some of that record breaking heat now.
[QUOTE=Bradyns;39226039]There are trends above the background noise of the data that would be there from natural cycles, and averages in nature. As mentioned in the article: "Today, this increase is already so large that by far most monthly heat records are due to climate change. The science is clear that only a small fraction would have occurred naturally." There would be no statistical significance to background noise of natural cycles if it was purely a natural contribution. This is not the case, there is very strong deviations, and the rate is exponential. Catastrophic global events that could contribute have not been happening exponentially to correlate with these observations. [B]Just come to fucking terms with it.[/B][/QUOTE] tbh very few people dispute the earth is warming, non scientists are just arguing over what causes the warming. the way i see it, if you acknowledge the earth is warming, you have to deny the idea that co2 is a greenhouse gas to make the claim that humans make no meaningful contribution to the warming.
[QUOTE=killerteacup;39224838]By now global warming is pretty much a consensus among scientists in relation to its existence Surely popular culture should follow suit soon please[/QUOTE] It has been the consensus for fucking decades.
[QUOTE=BCell;39225861]I got an idea. What if we pump sea water and flood it into the deserts of Australia, Sahara and the US[/QUOTE] You'll drown all the life in the deserts and make it really salty and hard for life to recover
[QUOTE=Killer900;39224624]Do people still think Global Warming is fake?[/QUOTE] The trend with scientists these days is global warming. The trend with scientists in the 70s and 80s was global cooling. They really don't have any idea what they're talking about because they're going about the whole situation wrong. Most scientists that are on the global warming/cooling bandwagon are looking at climate in terms of human life span, not over the billions of years of the earth's life. The earth has always had cycles of extreme heat and extreme cold, but these cycles lasted for thousands or millions of years. Scientists that support this theory are usually only looking at the past couple hundred years to make their case, which is just flawed. There were actually several points in earth's history where there was no ice on the poles and 1/3 of the United states was several hundred feet underwater. [QUOTE=No_0ne;39224817]I fear the day when summer hits over here in Texas.[/QUOTE] 105-120F 5 months straight with no rain, aww yeah. [QUOTE=BCell;39225861]I got an idea. What if we pump sea water and flood it into the deserts of Australia, Sahara and the US[/QUOTE] Death Valley, CA is eventually going to turn into an inland ocean. Every year the valley sinks lower and more water starts to creep in from the sides of the valley. Eventually there will be more water rushing into the valley than can be evaporated by the extreme heat and it will start to fill up.
It's still solar maximum, so of course things are going to be hotter
[QUOTE=bohb;39226374]The trend with scientists these days is global warming. The trend with scientists in the 70s and 80s was global cooling. They really don't have any idea what they're talking about because they're going about the whole situation wrong. Most scientists that are on the global warming/cooling bandwagon are looking at climate in terms of human life span, not over the billions of years of the earth's life. The earth has always had cycles of extreme heat and extreme cold, but these cycles lasted for thousands or millions of years. Scientists that support this theory are usually only looking at the past couple hundred years to make their case, which is just flawed. There were actually several points in earth's history where there was no ice on the poles and 1/3 of the United states was several hundred feet underwater. 105-120F 5 months straight with no rain, aww yeah. Death Valley, CA is eventually going to turn into an inland ocean. Every year the valley sinks lower and more water starts to creep in from the sides of the valley. Eventually there will be more water rushing into the valley than can be evaporated by the extreme heat and it will start to fill up.[/QUOTE] I think everyone's entitled to their opinion, but you're actually saying that scientists have no idea of what they're doing. Do you really think they haven't taking that into consideration? You believe that you, yourself, just single-handedly found the reason why they're wrong - without any scientist [I]ever[/I] thinking about it? That's incredibly naive. You're only fooling yourself.
[QUOTE=Bradyns;39226039]There are trends above the background noise of the data that would be there from natural cycles, and averages in nature. As mentioned in the article: "Today, this increase is already so large that by far most monthly heat records are due to climate change. The science is clear that only a small fraction would have occurred naturally." There would be no statistical significance to background noise of natural cycles if it was purely a natural contribution. This is not the case, there is very strong deviations, and the rate is exponential. Catastrophic global events that could contribute have not been happening exponentially to correlate with these observations. [B]Just come to fucking terms with it.[/B][/QUOTE] Have Humans just sped up the cycle or do you think its still happening at the pace it normally would, just the temps are fucked because of us?
[QUOTE=bohb;39226374]The trend with scientists these days is global warming. The trend with scientists in the 70s and 80s was global cooling. They really don't have any idea what they're talking about because they're going about the whole situation wrong.[/QUOTE] Nope. The trend has always been anthropogenic climate change, but the concepts of energy in a system increasing is not intuitive to the common dude, hence news media covering it as the cause of whatever people currently perceive as the problem with the weather. If you seriously think scientists have been using the terms "global warming" and "global cooling" in an academic sense then you haven't been paying attention to the academics. What you're saying was actually [URL="http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/2008BAMS2370.1"]debunked[/URL] in a survey of literature published between the 60s and 80s which highlighted that there never was any global cooling "trend" in the scientific community. The prediction rate was like 7 to 40 cooling/warming. I'd blame you for buying into the party line but that's been so pissed over by the media that I really can't. It was hard getting your shit from the source back then. You know better now, though.
Interesting scientific fact: Homan beans have absuolutely no impact on the climate change,it is completely natural.
The heat went up in britain because all the buses spun out on the 1cm of snow and are now burning all over the country
It's fucking freezing as shit where I live in England. -2 degrees outside at mid day (well, 20 to 12 but that's close enough).
[QUOTE=bohb;39226374]The trend with scientists these days is global warming. The trend with scientists in the 70s and 80s was global cooling. They really don't have any idea what they're talking about because they're going about the whole situation wrong. Most scientists that are on the global warming/cooling bandwagon are looking at climate in terms of human life span, not over the billions of years of the earth's life. The earth has always had cycles of extreme heat and extreme cold, but these cycles lasted for thousands or millions of years. Scientists that support this theory are usually only looking at the past couple hundred years to make their case, which is just flawed. There were actually several points in earth's history where there was no ice on the poles and 1/3 of the United states was several hundred feet underwater. 105-120F 5 months straight with no rain, aww yeah. Death Valley, CA is eventually going to turn into an inland ocean. Every year the valley sinks lower and more water starts to creep in from the sides of the valley. Eventually there will be more water rushing into the valley than can be evaporated by the extreme heat and it will start to fill up.[/QUOTE] You're wrong because they are looking at it over those ages. They're looking at long term cycles. And they're seeing this cycle is getting a rather exponential curve towards extreme temperatures. This is a fact. You're more educated than scientists and more informed than researchers, why don't you start writing the articles and studies?
[QUOTE=bohb;39226374]The trend with scientists these days is global warming. The trend with scientists in the 70s and 80s was global cooling. They really don't have any idea what they're talking about because they're going about the whole situation wrong. [/QUOTE] the "trend" with the scientists in the 70s and 80s didn't exist. global cooling had very little support from the scientific community. it was basically a big press fuck-up where some bored reporter tried to interpret weather patterns himself.
[QUOTE=bohb;39226374]The trend with scientists these days is global warming. The trend with scientists in the 70s and 80s was global cooling.[B] They really don't have any idea what they're talking about[/B] because they're going about the whole situation wrong. Most scientists that are on the global warming/cooling bandwagon are looking at climate in terms of human life span, not over the billions of years of the earth's life. The earth has always had cycles of extreme heat and extreme cold, but these cycles lasted for thousands or millions of years. Scientists that support this theory are usually only looking at the past couple hundred years to make their case, which is just flawed. There were actually several points in earth's history where there was no ice on the poles and 1/3 of the United states was several hundred feet underwater. [/QUOTE] No, that would be you. Everything you've said has been debunked countless times already.
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