Bernie Sanders Will Face Donald Trump in 2020 Election, Democrats Say - Polidicks

I don't know if it's wise to discount someone because of their age. If Bernie, and his advisers, and his doctors think he's able to do it, then it's not the job of the electorate to second guess that. If and when it becomes a problem then it's a different matter, but one assumes the appropriate mechanisms are in place for that in Congress or what have you.

The problem is that there aren't many "known" Democrats. If the DNC wants to prop up another candidate, they need to start pushing him/her into the spotlight. Obama was a charismatic powerhouse that became a worldwide loved figure from a community organizer that won a crazy Senatorial race. Elizabeth Warren, Cory Booker, Tom Wolf, Jerry Brown, whoever. Also, start funding more Justice Dems like Kaniela Ing. We need Democrat Reconstruction, but if the DNC is just going to sit on their hands, then it's a bit for naught, isn't it? Thankfully, we have some breathing room with some recent wins in 2017. If we can smash the 2018 elections, hopefully we'll be able to pull a big win in 2020.

I'd try and get Joe Kennedy to run.

[QUOTE=Megadave;52923827]I'd try and get Joe Kennedy to run.[/QUOTE] Jesus he looks young. I'd be worried that's a point against him.

I don't understand where it say he "will" run? The article just says a poll of strategists say he has a good chance in 2020, not that he will be there doing it.

After the shambolic display that has been the past year of Trump's reign I think anyone can win against him, even better that it's someone as progressive and seemingly forward-thinking as Bernie.

[QUOTE=Riller;52923786]In 2020, Bernie will be 79-80. That's pretty fuckin' old.[/QUOTE] In today's world with modern medicine as it is, I'm sure he'll be fine.

Just 4 years too late.

[QUOTE=Omilinon;52923823]The problem is that there aren't many "known" Democrats. If the DNC wants to prop up another candidate, they need to start pushing him/her into the spotlight. Obama was a charismatic powerhouse that became a worldwide loved figure from a community organizer that won a crazy Senatorial race. Elizabeth Warren, Cory Booker, Tom Wolf, Jerry Brown, whoever. Also, start funding more Justice Dems like Kaniela Ing. We need Democrat Reconstruction, but if the DNC is just going to sit on their hands, then it's a bit for naught, isn't it? Thankfully, we have some breathing room with some recent wins in 2017. If we can smash the 2018 elections, hopefully we'll be able to pull a big win in 2020.[/QUOTE] This is the most stressful thing about Dem strategy to me. Since I need to relate everything in my life to movies, I'll say Trump is like the GOP's flagship character (behold, the only time a comparison between Trump and Wolverine will ever make sense). A terrible one, not sustainable in the slightest, but still a personality that voters will pay attention to, and sometimes, relate to, on a more personal level. Where's the flagship character for the Dems? Elizabeth Warren, I love her, but where's her pull? She, and everyone else who wants to run in 2020, should be vying for the spotlight right now. We're under a Trump presidency, for crying out loud, there will never be a better time for scoring political points this easily

[QUOTE=Megadave;52923827]I'd try and get Joe Kennedy to run.[/QUOTE] he's a stand up guy but i have my doubts about his commitment to single-payer healthcare. he says he supports it in principle but it seems he's been kind of flighty about actually backing it, and he apparently gets an awful lot of pharma donations. plus being one of the only progressive caucusers who voted against limiting the NSA isn't great

[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;52923728]As much as I like Bernie I do think 79 is too old and there is a danger of him developing serious health issues during the Presidency. I would hope he would instead be training a suitable protegee. And not to be too pessimistic, it's possible he could die before the election itself.[/QUOTE] He should pick an extremely compatible and competent VP, so if that happens we're still in good hands. Someone like Tulsi Gabbard. All in all, I don't think Bernie has the best implementations for his ideas, but I trust he'll bring on competent experts, unlike "the swamp just got ten feet deeper" Trump.

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;52923930]This is the most stressful thing about Dem strategy to me. Since I need to relate everything in my life to movies, I'll say Trump is like the GOP's flagship character (behold, the only time a comparison between Trump and Wolverine will ever make sense). A terrible one, not sustainable in the slightest, but still a personality that voters will pay attention to, and sometimes, relate to, on a more personal level. Where's the flagship character for the Dems? Elizabeth Warren, I love her, but where's her pull? She, and everyone else who wants to run in 2020, should be vying for the spotlight right now. We're under a Trump presidency, for crying out loud, there will never be a better time for scoring political points this easily[/QUOTE] She has been very active in questioning Equifax and been visible a lot recently.

God, I hope he has a good vice president. Maybe Elizabeth Warren, I could see her as a great president.

Please, Bernie. In these remaining years until 2020, find someone worth while, someone who lines up with what you're trying to do, and push, push, [I]push[/I] them into relevancy. I'd love to have your ideals, but I can't help but feel you'll be too old by then.

We definitely need a younger face with bernie's fire and commitment. We need someone who has a clear and concise message and isn't wishy washy on their foundations and principles.

What happens when both parties lose the black vote?

Knowing your luck. He'll end up kicking the bucket during the actual election campaign. I wonder if that's ever happened before. He should really find a successor and just channel his inner Mickey Goldmill to them till the day.

[QUOTE=Omali;52924048]What happens when both parties lose the black vote?[/QUOTE] the republicans never had the black vote the dems would lose

[QUOTE=slayer20;52923778]Bernie is pretty old, but if it makes you feel better Ronald Reagan was the oldest president to serve in office at the age of 77. That's one year older than Bernie! Also Donald Trump is 70 which makes him the oldest person to enter office.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure I remember reading that Reagan was starting to become mentally compromised by the end of his presidency, though. I think we lost our chance for Bernie. I'd still vote for him if he had a really good VP, but I don't know how an 80 year old man could survive the stresses of one presidency, let alone two. Not unless they were in literally perfect shape.

So long as he's mentally fit his age has pretty much zero relevance. Bernie could be 90 and I'd still vote for him.

[QUOTE=Jim Morrison;52924100]So long as he's mentally fit his age has pretty much zero relevance. Bernie could be 90 and I'd still vote for him.[/QUOTE] well, duh. age is relevant precisely because of fitness concerns, of course his age is irrelevant if you remove the one reason why it would be [editline]26th November 2017[/editline] it will never stop being a concern. how can you really gauge his mental fitness, and how constantly?

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;52924111]well, duh. age is relevant precisely because of fitness concerns, of course his age is irrelevant if you remove the one reason why it would be [editline]26th November 2017[/editline] it will never stop being a concern. how can you really gauge his mental fitness, and how constantly?[/QUOTE] Evaluations of mental fitness haven't been a thing yet, and we've had younger presidents who are/were clearly off-kilter. Should the president develop a significant illness we should expect him or her to resign. Although, I sincerely doubt that Sanders would ever degenerate to the point of making unhinged comments à la Trump

id be happy if biden won, too.

[QUOTE=J!NX;52923760]I almost feel like Hilary is going to just somehow screw him over yet again it just feels like that leather-couch of a person is going to get off her heat rock and somehow actually manage to screw over Bernie and yet again lose to Trump a 2nd time[/QUOTE] I doubt she'll come back. After losing elections to both Obama and Trump of all people I think she's lost a lot of good reasons to come back. She's severely out of touch with new voters, the email scandal is still up in the air I think, and I don't have a doubt in my mind they will ever let her forget what happened at Benghazi. We underestimate on how much the US loves our troops, and something like that just can't slide. VP[I] maybe[/I], but there's no way she'd come back to try to get elected.

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;52924111]well, duh. age is relevant precisely because of fitness concerns, of course his age is irrelevant if you remove the one reason why it would be [editline]26th November 2017[/editline] it will never stop being a concern. how can you really gauge his mental fitness, and how constantly?[/QUOTE] I brought this up last time this was mentioned in a thread: Joe Biden is very likely to run in 2020 as well and he's only a year younger than Bernie. You think people are going to be scrutinizing him as much about his age? I know you personally can have a legitimate concern about his fitness for office and that's completely fine, but in mainstream circles it's only going to be brought up by his political opponents to discredit him as a candidate. I would turn the same question back on you: how can you gauge his mental [I]un[/I]fitness? How can you gauge Trump's, or Biden's, or any other candidate's mental fitness? If you have a serious concern, then it just means you have to value his VP pick more. So far, he's shown nothing [i]but[/i] good fitness considering he's the most popular politician that's actually representing what most people want. If he declines in health to the point where he can't perform his duties, that's what a VP is for.

[QUOTE=Jim Morrison;52924204]I brought this up last time this was mentioned in a thread: Joe Biden is very likely to run in 2020 as well and he's only a year younger than Bernie. You think people are going to be scrutinizing him as much about his age? I know you personally can have a legitimate concern about his fitness for office and that's completely fine, but in mainstream circles it's only going to be brought up by his political opponents to discredit him as a candidate. I would turn the same question back on you: how can you gauge his mental [I]un[/I]fitness? How can you gauge Trump's, or Biden's, or any other candidate's mental fitness? If you have a serious concern, then it just means you have to value his VP pick more. So far, he's shown nothing [i]but[/i] good fitness considering he's the most popular politician that's actually representing what most people want. If he declines in health to the point where he can't perform his duties, that's what a VP is for.[/QUOTE] That's a really good point. I think the whole pack is too old, tbh, but it's only the first thing on my mind when I look at Bernie. I don't know how many people will admit this, but the reason is obvious: everyone else has a full head of hair, while Bernie looks like you gave a kid a piece of paper and told them "draw an old man". I can try to be conscious of that bias now that I had it pointed out, but it's a hard thing to get through to everyone

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;52923665]he should have had the Democratic ticket in 2016, tbh[/QUOTE] He did until it was bought and paid for by Hillary.

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;52923665]he should have had the Democratic ticket in 2016, tbh[/QUOTE] he lost the southern primaries though, not that that matters much in the general.

He is absolutely the candidate the party deserves. I only hope he himself recognises this before 2020 comes.

We need to Bern the filth from this Nation, this once great Nation, and I can say wholeheartdly I support Bernie.