Bernie Sanders Will Face Donald Trump in 2020 Election, Democrats Say - Polidicks

Remember it's just as important to elect Democrats, the more Social Democratic the better. Bernie (or whoever takes his place) can't do it alone.

[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;52924550]What does that mean?[/QUOTE] Apparently candidates should be decided on nebulous terms like who "deserves" it rather than who wins the most votes.

[QUOTE=Streecer;52924555]Apparently candidates should be decided on nebulous terms like who "deserves" it rather than who wins the most votes.[/QUOTE] Sad thing is, it worked in the primaries for Hillary and "it's her turn"... well, that, and Hillary basically buying the nomination before the race even started.

Who was that democrat veteran former-DNC young woman again? Cause tbh I feel like she would be perfect. [QUOTE=glitchvid;52923952]He should pick an extremely compatible and competent VP, so if that happens we're still in good hands. Someone like Tulsi Gabbard. All in all, I don't think Bernie has the best implementations for his ideas, but I trust he'll bring on competent experts, unlike "the swamp just got ten feet deeper" Trump.[/QUOTE] Tulsi Gabbard. Make it happen. She's perfect.

I'd definitely vote for him, I think he's a great candidate. I just hope he won't be too old by that point

Could someone refresh me as to why He dropped out in the first place, and why he decided to hitch his wagon to Hillary's campaign for the election?

[QUOTE=Callinstead;52924802]Could someone refresh me as to why He dropped out in the first place, and why he decided to hitch his wagon to Hillary's campaign for the election?[/QUOTE] well he didn't drop out, he just lost the Democrat nomination to Hillary. And he had to throw in with Hillary afterwards since they didn't want to split the Dem vote and give Trump an easy path to victory (even tho he won anyways lol)

[QUOTE=Callinstead;52924802]Could someone refresh me as to why He dropped out in the first place, and why he decided to hitch his wagon to Hillary's campaign for the election?[/QUOTE] He lost the DNC nomination, and everybody knows independents don't have a chance at the presidency. He chose what he thought was his best option for avoiding a trump presidency at that point.

[QUOTE=usaokay;52923701]Bernie Sanders will be 80 in 2020. If he wins, he's gonna age 40 years throughout his presidency. At the end, he'll look like an Egyptian mummy.[/QUOTE] He'll be pretty sprightly for a man of 120. [QUOTE=postal;52924806]well he didn't drop out, he just lost the Democrat nomination to Hillary. And he had to throw in with Hillary afterwards since they didn't want to split the Dem vote and give Trump an easy path to victory (even tho he won anyways lol)[/QUOTE] Kinda hard to win an election when your opponent is colluding with one of your nation's biggest enemies and you refuse to listen to the advice of people close to you and subsequently completely neglect certain demographics because you just assume you'll get their vote despite doing nothing at all to convince them to give it to you.

[QUOTE=EcksDee;52924696]Who was that democrat veteran former-DNC young woman again? Cause tbh I feel like she would be perfect. Tulsi Gabbard. Make it happen. She's perfect.[/QUOTE] In true DNC fashion, they want to remove Tulsi from office despite being one of the best Dems.

[QUOTE=Callinstead;52924802]Could someone refresh me as to why He dropped out in the first place, and why he decided to hitch his wagon to Hillary's campaign for the election?[/QUOTE] He lost, even though he did have some shiver of hope before California sealed his defeat, and then pretty much surrendered fully to Clinton during the DNC, apparently in an attempt to get his own voters, who had donated a shitton of money out of their own thin pockets, behind Clinton after those lengthy primaries. But naturally, considering that some of those voters had absolutely given their all during the primaries by phonebanking for days and took out more loans to fund Sanders while already being tight on their money, they were less than pleased seeing Sanders capitulate to everything he stood against in the primaries, while giving up all the money they raised during it to the candidate who was already funded by billions of dollars in special interests. I do believe a portion of those Sanders voters felt absolutely betrayed over that, believing that Sanders did the equivalent of selling his soul to the Devil, which seemed bigger to the one-issue voters who were hoping to see things like job opportunities to return or for the forgotten voter to be heard again than the ideological voters. Which had the result that Clinton, even with the entire DNC backing her and Sanders campaigning for her, didn't get anywhere near all Sanders voters they probably accounted for in their predictions for the General Presidential Elections. Considering Clinton managed to lose the entire Rust Belt to Trump and even managed to almost job Minnesota if McMullin didn't drain enough votes there (If not for McMullin, Trump would have been the first Republican to nab Minnesota since Nixon), one has to ponder if Sanders should have just withdrawn from the election altogether after his primaries defeat instead of hurting his own reputation to prop up Clinton. Honestly, if there is one main aspect in which I mainly see Sanders never becoming President, is that he lacks that certain sort of leadership presence I do see Trump having. As a President, you can see in his meetings with foreign politicians, Trump makes good use of America's reputation and power to put himself at an advantage in those meetings. Sanders' main problem is, he's not someone who would take initiative like that. You could see that during that rally where he got bullied off the stage by two BLM protesters, you could see it during the debates where he failed to press Clinton, he lacks that bit of confidence to prop himself up in situations like that. As a result, if Trump keeps up the economy in the next four years, and if he does keep a very strong foreign presence towards Asia, I simply don't see Sanders becoming President even if he were to win the primaries and had to square off against Trump in that situation. You just know that Trump will take massive advantage of Sanders' biggest flaw like that. One of the points I could see Trump making then, is pointing out that a lack of confident self-presence would also see Sanders getting walked all over them by the likes of China. [QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;52924882]In true DNC fashion, they want to remove Tulsi from office despite being one of the best Dems.[/QUOTE] That is over Gabbard pushing for absolute non-intervention into Syria, isn't it? To not interfere further into Syria, seemed to be the best call anyone could make, instead of escalating it even further. I don't know why the DNC and some of the Republicans were pushing so hard to escalate the Syrian War while the conflict is finally getting close to fizzling out, with ISIS getting routed from both Syria and Iraq. Perhaps that having stopped funding and arming groups of so-called ''moderate rebels'', or rather terrorists, has helped a lot with that too, even how fond some prominent American politicians were to keep supporting those groups where anyone had zero control over.

[QUOTE=Jordax;52924899]they were less than pleased seeing Sanders capitulate to everything he stood against in the primaries[/quote] What, exactly, did Bernie capitulate on after the primary? Be specific. Those who don’t understand why Sanders endorsed Clinton never truly supported him in the first place; they were just angry and wanted to vent their anger on the system without taking any real responsibility.

[QUOTE=Dave_Parker;52924631]I'm all for Bernie running against Trump. Either America finally joins the first world and gets the socialist policies it deserves, or I get to watch another hilarious roflstomp by Trump.[/QUOTE] I, too, take great glee watching a nation crash and burn and millions of people suffer under the dictation of a literally insane manchild. [editline]26th November 2017[/editline] I am also fourteen years old and have just discovered Nine Inch Nails, too, friend! Can we best misanthrope buddies?

[QUOTE=Dave_Parker;52924631]I'm all for Bernie running against Trump. Either America finally joins the first world and gets the socialist policies it deserves, or I get to watch another hilarious roflstomp by Trump.[/QUOTE] Bernie becoming president will not make America socialist in a long shot. He still has to contend with a House of Reps that is usually dominated by Republicans and a Senate that normally has centrist Democrats.

I hope he doesn't die first

[QUOTE=Chris Morris;52924962]I, too, take great glee watching a nation crash and burn and millions of people suffer under the dictation of a literally insane manchild. [editline]26th November 2017[/editline] I am also fourteen years old and have just discovered Nine Inch Nails, too, friend! Can we best misanthrope buddies?[/QUOTE] hey man Nine Inch Nails is looking kinda [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Zero_(game)"]prescient[/URL] right about now

Tulsi has skeletons in her closet. Jeff Merkley I've considered a decent replacement, although not the youngest at 61. He was like the only Senator to endorse Bernie.

Too old. Democrats are just trying to fuck up at this point. People will say he's another "old white man" in power and that could end badly. Dems need someone younger with same levels of charisma and energy he had

[QUOTE=Jordax;52924899] Honestly, if there is one main aspect in which I mainly see Sanders never becoming President, is that he lacks that certain sort of leadership presence I do see Trump having. [/QUOTE] My sides shook so much they rocketed off my body at supersonic speeds and burst through the walls, maiming a small child.

[QUOTE=shadow_oap;52925346]Tulsi has skeletons in her closet. Jeff Merkley I've considered a decent replacement, although not the youngest at 61. He was like the only Senator to endorse Bernie.[/QUOTE] 61 is a solid age for a president. I would consider anything between 45 and 70 to be a decent age, even though the minimum is 35.

[QUOTE=shadow_oap;52925346]Tulsi has skeletons in her closet. Jeff Merkley I've considered a decent replacement, although not the youngest at 61. He was like the only Senator to endorse Bernie.[/QUOTE] What skeletons does Tulsi have?

[QUOTE=Judas;52925450]What skeletons does Tulsi have?[/QUOTE] the one inside her skin

[QUOTE=TraderRager;52925481]the one inside her skin[/QUOTE] but he said it's in her closet? is her skin a closet? is tulsi gabbard's dark secret the fact that she is a living breathing closet?

[QUOTE=TraderRager;52925481]the one inside her skin[/QUOTE] An odd place given that all the people I know keep theirs under their skin, not in it

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;52925523]An odd place given that all the people I know keep theirs under their skin, not in it[/QUOTE] It's absolutely despicable that people are making fun of her for it. Osteodermitis is a serious and debilitating medical condition, and I think it's very brave of her to involve herself in politics in spite of it.

[QUOTE=Zero-Point;52923683]Tea-Party republicans don't like him because of his "social" programs. Moderate to just-right-of-center republicans like him just fine.[/QUOTE] I know a lot of conservatives who (obviously) disagree with many of Bernie's points but have openly stated they'd rather have him in than Trump because [B]he cares about America[/B] when none of the other candidates in that race did - and I agree - a genuine love for your country should be the first thing voters look at. Self-serving slimeballs should never be on the ticket regardless of whether or not you agree with their stated mission.

[QUOTE=Jordax;52924899] Honestly, if there is one main aspect in which I mainly see Sanders never becoming President, is that he lacks that certain sort of leadership presence I do see Trump having. [/QUOTE] ...We ARE talking about the same Trump, right? The one with the "leadership presence" of an exceptionally bossy toddler?

[QUOTE=Mingebox;52925362]My sides shook so much they rocketed off my body at supersonic speeds and burst through the walls, maiming a small child.[/QUOTE] Sanders just doesn't have the ability to say whatever dumb crap comes to his mind, regardless of the consequences.

[QUOTE=Zero-Point;52923683]Tea-Party republicans don't like him because of his "social" programs. Moderate to just-right-of-center republicans like him just fine.[/QUOTE] That really depends on what you define as "Tea Party". Obama-era Tea Party Republicans don't seem to give a damn about him beyond the fact that he's a Democrat. Neo-Nazis and hard anti-SJWs were as neutral as one could expect them to be very early in his 2016 campaign, but wrote him off as a lying spineless coward once the incident with the BLM protesters happened.

[QUOTE=Zero-Point;52923683]Tea-Party republicans don't like him because of his "social" programs. Moderate to just-right-of-center republicans like him just fine.[/QUOTE] The only counter point I've ever heard was that supporters have no knowledge of economics. As if he's a pure socialist and the US would become socialist. Not to mention the irony factor of trickle down supporters calling small scale socialism supporters unknowledgeable in economics