[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;46804909]Tor is also used by hospitals for data.[/QUOTE]
Can you elaborate? Why can't hospitals of all places use normal internet for data?
[QUOTE=itisjuly;46805232]Can you elaborate? Why can't hospitals of all places use normal internet for data?[/QUOTE]
Medical Data is largely confidential information.
Huh, they couldn't hold it for much longer.
Well that's sad.
[QUOTE=ZombieWaffle;46805262]Medical Data is largely confidential information.[/QUOTE]
And what do hospitals use this illegally acquired data for? Surely they can wait till ddos stops without anyone dying.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;46805315]And what do hospitals use this illegally acquired data for? Surely they can wait till ddos stops without anyone dying.[/QUOTE]
Where did he say that it is illegally acquired? It can be used by doctors from different clinics if they have the same patient, but for some reason they can't meet in person.
[QUOTE=Kefirman;46805537]Where did he say that it is illegally acquired? It can be used by doctors from different clinics if they have the same patient, but for some reason they can't meet in person.[/QUOTE]Because if they need to use TOR to transfer records it must be illegal or at least gray. Otherwise why can't they use normal internet?
[QUOTE=itisjuly;46805647]Because if they need to use TOR to transfer records it must be illegal or at least gray. Otherwise why can't they use normal internet?[/QUOTE]
I would assume its because medical data is considered very sensitive, so naturally they would want to use the most secure thing possible.
[QUOTE=BusterBluth;46805723]I would assume its because medical data is considered very sensitive, so naturally they would want to use the most secure thing possible.[/QUOTE]
Makes no sense. There is a lot of information much more sensitive than medical records and normal internet is used to transfer it.
Honestly idiots like Kim Dotcom just give into the number one reason skiddies order botnet access and DDoS servers: publicity. If idiots stopped reporting on Lizard Squad, and if idiots stopped mentioning LS, they would get bored and stop using their mommies credit cards for DDoS access in an hour.
This shouldn't have happened for the same reason you don't negotiate with terrorists.
You provide incentive to commit these acts.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;46805757]Makes no sense. There is a lot of information much more sensitive than medical records and normal internet is used to transfer it.[/QUOTE]
The fact that some people are idiots when it comes to security doesn't mean that everyone is.
[QUOTE=Ricool06;46805845]This shouldn't have happened for the same reason you don't negotiate with terrorists.
You provide incentive to commit these acts.[/QUOTE]
That kinda makes sense I guess. Probably the best answer I'll get.
[QUOTE=Ricool06;46805845]This shouldn't have happened for the same reason you don't negotiate with terrorists.
You provide incentive to commit these acts.[/QUOTE]
Except we do negotiate with terrorists, a lot.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;46805647]Because if they need to use TOR to transfer records it must be illegal or at least gray. Otherwise why can't they use normal internet?[/QUOTE]
you're aware that using tor isn't illegal in the first world, right?
[QUOTE=lavacano;46806050]you're aware that using tor isn't illegal in the first world, right?[/QUOTE]
Yes I am, but if you're not doing anything shady, normal internet does everything you need and still works even if TOR goes down. The fact that doctors use TOR to share confidential medical info means it's entirely possible they're sharing that with more than just doctors. We can't know for sure because that's the point of TOR.
In the end my point is that if TOR goes down for a while, nothing horrible should happen during that time.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;46805647]Because if they need to use TOR to transfer records it must be illegal or at least gray. Otherwise why can't they use normal internet?[/QUOTE]
The internet is insecure as all hell, there is a reason why anything involving the internet and medical records takes forever to implement and has to follow insane numbers of regulations.
[QUOTE=Jsm;46806088]The internet is insecure as all hell, there is a reason why anything involving the internet and medical records takes forever to implement and has to follow insane numbers of regulations.[/QUOTE]Is transferring medical records through TOR actually a thing? I can't find any sources on google besides underground trades of said medical records through TOR.
So they just started hitting PSN again
so much for that
Nevermind was just looking at the wrong twitter
[QUOTE=itisjuly;46806120]Is transferring medical records through TOR actually a thing? I can't find any sources on google besides underground trades of said medical records through TOR.[/QUOTE]
Just drop this. Whether doctors may or may not use TOR for their medical records is completely unrelated to the thread.
Even the FBI acknowledged TOR has it's legitimate uses.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;46806120]Is transferring medical records through TOR actually a thing? I can't find any sources on google besides underground trades of said medical records through TOR.[/QUOTE]
People actually believing Hospitals/Clinics would use TOR to store medical records is probably one of the dumbest things I've heard all week.
[QUOTE=BusterBluth;46805723]I would assume its because medical data is considered very sensitive, so naturally they would want to use the most secure thing possible.[/QUOTE]
tor is pretty insecure now, and has been for a while
[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;46807190]People actually believing Hospitals/Clinics would use TOR to store medical records is probably one of the dumbest things I've heard all week.[/QUOTE]
Yet, I got a bunch of old workstation PCs from a hospital since they were replacing hardware, I turned a couple of them on, and they had nothing but .onion links on the desktops, and a HTML file having WHERE ARE MY FILES and how they moved to Tor.
Kinda bad they didn't wipe those tho. I wiped them all and installed 7 on them (they all had Vista Business)
Maybe it was only that place. But still, they used Tor for whatever reason.
[QUOTE=Smt;46808058]tor is pretty insecure now, and has been for a while[/QUOTE]
Can you tell me more? I honestly don't know much about TOR and would like to learn how and why it became more insecure.
If you merely don't want anyone to read confidential data you encrypt it and can send it over the normal internet. TOR is an anonymity service which is supposed to hide your IP. I honestly cannot think of a remotely logical reason why a hospital would want to mask its IP within their own network.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;46808933]Can you tell me more? I honestly don't know much about TOR and would like to learn how and why it became more insecure.[/QUOTE]
TOR is simply said a big network of Proxies. When you establish a TOR connection you send your packets through three TOR-Nodes before it reaches its destination. Each node only knows its neighbour, so the exit node doesn't know the senders IP adress, but it can send the responsepackets back on the same route and still reach the sender.
However, everyone can setup TOR-Nodes. If a big secret sniffing agency happens to catch a connection, in which all three TOR-Nodes are theirs, your connection is busted and they instantly can confirm the source of the connection.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;46799707]Well maybe if Kim Dotcom hadn't dipped half of his company in shady if not outright illegal schemes the authorities wouldn't have been able to wreck his shit past the fifth dimension[/QUOTE]
i mean kim dotcom is still rich as fuck and doing his thing? so i wouldn't really call it "wrecking his shit past the fifth dimension"
[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;46807190]People actually believing Hospitals/Clinics would use TOR to store medical records is probably one of the dumbest things I've heard all week.[/QUOTE]
They wouldn't store the records there, that'd just be silly. Tor or not, cloud storage for confidential stuff is a bad idea.
But the idea would be that your PCP practices in one city, and you get your dumb ass hurt while on vacation and have to be admitted to a hospital in another city, perhaps even out of state. They flip on Tor, use some sort of encryption protocol, turn on a few more precautions that your tinfoil hat wearing cousin can't even dream up, and maybe they'd just barely meet the standard to send your medical history over.
If he isn't going to hand their information over to the authorities, then this was just stupid and encourages criminal activity.
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