• Marijuana Actually Does Harm Your Brain - Study
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What in saying is a it alters te shape of your brain, but so does everything else. Why does te article say it damages the brain? All the study says it alters te form of certain emotional complexes. Couldn't this also be caused by the viewpoint of a person's view on marijuana changing after trying it?
Just saw this pop up on my FB news feed. The comments are as bad as expected. [img]http://i.imgur.com/MjpQyJv.png[/img]
of course it does you would have to be an idiot to possibly maintain that drugs don't have some harmful side-effects. but I'm still incredibly pro-drug, but its important to be well informed in what you're actually risking doing to yourself before you do it.
I have a friend who genuinely believes that Marijuana is good for his asthma. :suicide:
[QUOTE=Apache249;44557254]I have a friend who genuinely believes that Marijuana is good for his asthma. :suicide:[/QUOTE] The calming would steady breathing meaning less wheezing etc because soft breaths
[QUOTE=A_Pigeon;44557279]The calming would steady breathing meaning less wheezing etc because soft breaths[/QUOTE] The smoke can't be good for it in the long run, though.
I'd still rather smoke a joint than get drunk.
[QUOTE=Apache249;44557287]The smoke can't be good for it in the long run, though.[/QUOTE] vaping or edibles would take care of that
[QUOTE=Apache249;44557287]The smoke can't be good for it in the long run, though.[/QUOTE] Of course not, but it's short term relief both mentally and physically for him. That's what really matters
[QUOTE=Naught;44557117]it CAN be a gateway drug if you have shitty friends/shitty dealers...but not as often as people portray it as[/QUOTE] Which is in itself a reasonable argument for legalization, among others like the cost of incarceration and a waste of police. If people could cultivate it on their own then you wouldn't have to deal with shady and shitty dealers.
Didn't need the study. This is one of those "well NO SHIT" things if you know enough, and research what you're inhaling. [editline]15th April 2014[/editline] Weed can cause all sorts of shit like alzheimer's. The reason behind that isn't direct, it's how much less activity is in certain parts of your brain when you're high off the good ol ganj.
Why in studies like this are "joints" used a unit of measurement? Like, that's the broadest possible thing to use. Joints can range in size and weight from tiny to massive, and besides that, the majority of people I know who smoke don't usually smoke joints unless they're out and about since they're easy to roll and take with. The measurement should be done with the weight and potency of marijuana used, not just a blanket "number of joints". I'm sorry, it kinda makes the study bullshit.
Gateway drug is a stupid argument through and through. If I know a guy, and know for a fact that he's a mobster, does it make me more tempted to spot money off him? [editline]15th April 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Aetna;44557544]Why in studies like this are "joints" used a unit of measurement? Like, that's the broadest possible thing to use. Joints can range in size and weight from tiny to massive, and besides that, the majority of people I know who smoke don't usually smoke joints unless they're out and about since they're easy to roll and take with. The measurement should be done with the weight and potency of marijuana used, not just a blanket "number of joints". I'm sorry, it kinda makes the study bullshit.[/QUOTE] Also the rolling papes tamper with results. Though it pertains mostly to cancer studies.
[QUOTE=KD007;44557545]Gateway drug is a stupid argument through and through. If I know a guy, and know for a fact that he's a mobster, does it make me more tempted to spot money off him? [editline]15th April 2014[/editline] Also the rolling papes tamper with results. Though it pertains mostly to cancer studies.[/QUOTE] Agreed! The brand and types of papes use effect the study as well.
After one sip the marijuanas had caused mass hallucination
I always get a chuckle when someone believes it [I]cures [/I]cancer.
if a person can go from being a strong user in their teenage years to president of the united states later in life, i'm convinced the effects cannot be that dangerous/drastic
[QUOTE=frozensoda]What about edibles, this is just for smoking. For all we know the joint papers themselves are causing this.[/QUOTE] Seeing as THC is both fat soluble and able to move through the blood-brain barrier I would hedge my bets that it wasn't the papers. And I could have sworn we've known for a while that the brain will grow excess white matter to inhibit/buffer sudden changes in the blood's cannabinoid concentration. And for the life of me I can't remember where I learned that.
[QUOTE=OrkO;44557675]if a person can go from being a strong user in their teenage years to president of the united states later in life, i'm convinced the effects cannot be that dangerous/drastic[/QUOTE] I know people making 6 figures who smoked when they were young, stopped for a bit, then continued once they settled down later in life. Admittedly, I have yet to meet anyone who smoked consistently for 20+ years and became extremely successful in society's eyes, but then again, those kinds of people probably keep these things private, and for good reason. ...although, using the president of the united states is a terrible example. Like, really, look back on our previous recent presidents and tell me being pres. is something to be proud of?
The individuals who performed this study are really lucky they didn't get REEFER MADNESS
Pot makes me incredibly unmotivated so I can see some merit to this study.
[QUOTE=Cakebatyr;44557677]Seeing as THC is both fat soluble and able to move through the blood-brain barrier I would hedge my bets that it wasn't the papers. And I could have sworn we've known for a while that the brain will grow excess white matter to inhibit/buffer sudden changes in the blood's cannabinoid concentration. And for the life of me I can't remember where I learned that.[/QUOTE] Well yeah, I don't think it's the papers either, I just mean that they only tested one method of ingestion that's actually falling out of favor, at least for everyone I know who partakes. It was just meant to be a silly example as to why this study may not be accurate. To me, this study only proves that [I]something[/I] the pot smokers were doing had this effect, not necessarily marijuana, and even if it is it may only be due to the method chosen to use it. For example, you could do a study that shows heroin use is linked to infected wounds on the arms of the users, but people who snort it instead would defy that study.
The only way we can solve the paper debate is by performing our own study with a couple of hip Mary Janes if you get my street lingo
I find this to be normal if the weed was high thc low cbd
Marijuana, cigarettes, alcohol who gives a fuck. They are drugs and all drugs have effects on our brains. Shit everything has affects on our brain. [quote]They assert that the more joints a person smokes, the more those two neural hubs get “damaged.” “Anytime you find there’s a relationship to the amount of marijuana consumed, and you see differences of core brain regions involved in processing of rewards, the making of decisions, the ability to assess emotions, that is a serious issue,” said Dr. Hans Breiter, professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine and a study co-author.[/quote] Sure, but playing video games for 5 years also causes differences in reward processing and decision making. So does alcohol. [url]http://alcalc.oxfordjournals.org/content/44/2/136.long[/url] [url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-douglas-fields/alcohol-brain-damage_b_3857430.html[/url] [url]http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/you-illuminated/201006/your-brain-alcohol[/url]
Mordern marijuana is the most psychotic shit ever, the rising percentage of thc over the years and the lowering cbd makes it normal for the bad sides of weed to show, you can't alter something that was 50/50 and make it 99/1 and hope that nothing bad happens. Luckily CBD is getting loads of research at this time and in the next 5 years it will get more recognition.
[QUOTE=Géza!;44555430]Clearly scientists are only to be trusted when they are saying good things about marijuana.[/QUOTE] After reading the past two pages, this is incredibly applicable.
[QUOTE=wanksta11;44558135]Mordern marijuana is the most psychotic shit ever, the rising percentage of thc over the years and the lowering cbd makes it normal for the bad sides of weed to show, you can't alter something that was 50/50 and make it 99/1 and hope that nothing bad happens. Luckily CBD is getting loads of research at this time and in the next 5 years it will get more recognition.[/QUOTE] I think you are overestimating the effects and or damages of THC vs CBD as well as overestimating the actual increase in THC amounts. At first potency was tested on stems and whatnot and not just the bud which distorted the data to show much lower THC percentages in the past. Ratios have widely varied for years and US data shows no clear trends. There have always been high THC or high CBD strains. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misconceptions_about_drugs#Marijuana_today_is_10.E2.80.9320_times_more_potent_than_in_the_past[/url]
I like how potheads go so out of their way to encourage smoking pot but when one guy says it's not good they freak out.
[QUOTE=YourStalker;44558211]I like how potheads go so out of their way to encourage smoking pot but when one guy says it's not good they freak out.[/QUOTE] There's way more people coming in here just to say this without reading or answering the legitimate concerns. If anything it's you guys who are the ones who are "going out of their way" to be ridiculous. No one is encouraging you to smoke pot, and everyone in here who seems like they smoke weed are taking an impartial stance rather than "freaking out" This study only involved 40 people, and I can't even find the actual paper just this article, and you guys are claiming "That's it marijuana does indeed cause brain damage." edit: [QUOTE=Canuhearme?;44558159][quote]Clearly scientists are only to be trusted when they are saying good things about marijuana.[/quote]After reading the past two pages, this is incredibly applicable.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=S3rpant67;44556916]Laughing my ass off at people that never listened to the anti-marijuana adds and my favorite "BUT IT'S A PLANT! PLANTS DON'T DO ANYTHING!"[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Géza!;44555430]Clearly scientists are only to be trusted when they are saying good things about marijuana.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=G-Strogg;44555440]Soon DD dumbrates the entire thread.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=LoLWaT?;44555493]Shit even if blatant proof was found and it was shoved right in their faces, a third of them would still probably smoke (rough guesstimation there). Just leave people be. If it doesn't directly affect other people that want no part in it, and no in this case it really doesn't, what's the big deal? The best course of action on this stuff is always just proper education. If some drug is an actual threat you can let the individuals decide for themselves whether they want to fuck their own lives up. You can argue that some people are simply too stupid for their own good but that leads back into the question that I asked above.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Duck M.;44555616]Try telling that to most Marijuana users. Many are adamant that marijuana has absolutely zero negative effects. This study, however, has too small of a sample size and the results are less than conclusive, at least for me to draw an explicit decision on whether or not they're safe to consume.[/QUOTE] it's almost like you guys are using what other like-minded people think about the "pot-heads" as your basis for what a weed smoker is. Circular reference, I think.
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