Fatal Car Accident Caused By Deer (happened right in front of me omw to a party)
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[QUOTE=a dumb bear;41154445]Yeah but how would he have moved that car?[/QUOTE]
Again, I don't think anybody was expecting him to commit super-human feats and save his life. What everyone was expecting was for him to simply stop. That's it. No matter how bad the wreck is, I think you should stop when you see a car accident if there isn't EMS on scene. I'm not going to avoid helping someone just because I'm afraid of seeing something I don't want to see.
Oh my god, the girl who was with me just texted me. That was her cousins dad, wow I am speechless.
Guys, I think you might be going a bit hard on OP
He did watch someone die
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;41154475]
Hmmm I dunno maybe because I just watched a fucking horrible accident and driving while using your phone isn't a good idea. Especially while already high, you don't think things though, do you?[/QUOTE]
So you watched a horrible accident, were driving while high, still smoking, had alcohol in the car, then drove off after making your "anonymous" report.
Perhaps it's you who doesn't think things through? You've demonstrated that you couldn't give two hoots about any legal or social obligation you may have. What an upstanding person you are.
Hey, but at least you pulled over before using your phone... probably for the first time ever.
Also about the DWI discussion earlier I thought that studies proved that driving whilst high carried virtually no additional risk of causing an accident.
Are you okay OP?
[QUOTE=LittleDogX;41154533]Again, I don't think anybody was expecting him to commit super-human feats and save his life. What everyone was expecting was for him to simply stop. That's it. No matter how bad the wreck is, I think you should stop when you see a car accident if there isn't EMS on scene. I'm not going to avoid helping someone just because I'm afraid of seeing something I don't want to see.[/QUOTE]
He did stop?
He pulled over, to call?
What else do you want him to do, stand there and stare at the wreck?
DogGunn, FP crash investigations and internet vigilante
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;41154534]Oh my god, the girl who was with me just texted me. That was her cousins dad, wow I am speechless.[/QUOTE]
That's fucking horrible, and I'm sorry to hear that. But at least she didn't get comfort her uncle in his final moments.
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[QUOTE=breakyourfac;41154534]Oh my god, the girl who was with me just texted me. That was her cousins dad, wow I am speechless.[/QUOTE]
Take a break from the Internet and let your head clear before posting again. You don't need stress from FP.
I feel so horrible, I've met that guy before. I better go to her house and make sure she is okay. It's a little different, when you realize you watched somebody you [B]know[/B] die in front of you.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;41154538]So you watched a horrible accident, were driving while high, still smoking, had alcohol in the car, then drove off after making your "anonymous" report.
Perhaps it's you who doesn't think things through? You've demonstrated that you couldn't give two hoots about any legal or social obligation you may have. What an upstanding person you are.
Hey, but at least you pulled over before using your phone... probably for the first time ever.[/QUOTE]
its like you want to be angry
[QUOTE=LittleDogX;41154533]Again, I don't think anybody was expecting him to commit super-human feats and save his life. What everyone was expecting was for him to simply stop. That's it. No matter how bad the wreck is, I think you should stop when you see a car accident if there isn't EMS on scene. I'm not going to avoid helping someone just because I'm afraid of seeing something I don't want to see.[/QUOTE]
except breakyourfac did stop. he stopped, he alerted the police, and then when he saw there was somebody else at the scene he left.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;41154538]So you watched a horrible accident, were driving while high, still smoking, had alcohol in the car, then drove off after making your "anonymous" report.
Perhaps it's you who doesn't think things through? You've demonstrated that you couldn't give two hoots about any legal or social obligation you may have. What an upstanding person you are.
Hey, but at least you pulled over before using your phone... probably for the first time ever.[/QUOTE]
[I]He didn't have any fucking legal obligations aside from calling his fucking phone.
But I guess you wouldn't fucking know, since you live in fucking Oceana.
Stop throwing around ad-hominems, you're only making yourself look like a total cunt.[/I]
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;41154539]Also about the DWI discussion earlier I thought that studies proved that driving whilst high carried virtually no additional risk of causing an accident.[/QUOTE]
All depends on the person to be honest.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;41154563]That's fucking horrible, and I'm sorry to hear that. But at least she didn't get comfort her uncle in his final moments.[/QUOTE]
You have no idea if he was alive or not and looking at the crash there was an infinitely small possibility that he was alive. Stop trying to vilify the OP and his friend you inconsiderate asshole.
[QUOTE=AngryChairR;41154274]You may have been able to comfort him, maybe he was still alive and needed help keeping consciousness. The front looks trashed but it's meant to because it's probably a crumple zone. You could've stopped and helped and potentially saved his life but instead you drove away for selfish reasons and left him to die in a dark lonely field. You'll regret it one day I'm sure, and the least you can do now is apologise to his family.[/QUOTE]
And you too. Both of you have no idea what you're talking about and instead of just stopping and leaving the thread you continue to post these ridiculous assumptions and hurtful statements. You two really need to fuck off.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;41154563]That's fucking horrible, and I'm sorry to hear that. But at least she didn't get comfort her uncle in his final moments.[/QUOTE]
you are a fucking asshole you know that
I'm really sorry breakyourfac, I did not mean to kickoff this bad of an argument. You have my condolences.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;41154538]So you watched a horrible accident, were driving while high, still smoking, had alcohol in the car, then drove off after making your "anonymous" report.
Perhaps it's you who doesn't think things through? You've demonstrated that you couldn't give two hoots about any legal or social obligation you may have. What an upstanding person you are.
Hey, but at least you pulled over before using your phone... probably for the first time ever.[/QUOTE]
Holy crap, you're so mad it's not even funny.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;41154473]Why did you pull over if you weren't going to stop and check on them?
Did you just want to stare at the crash or something?[/QUOTE]
Don't you think that kind of helps when detailing a crash
[QUOTE=joes33431;41154574][I]He didn't have any fucking legal obligations aside from calling his fucking phone.
But I guess you wouldn't fucking know, since you live in fucking Oceana.
Stop throwing around ad-hominems, you're only making yourself look like a total cunt.[/I][/QUOTE]
Hmm, he probably wouldn't have a legal obligation to even report the accident, so good on him for doing so.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;41154563]That's fucking horrible, and I'm sorry to hear that. But at least she didn't get comfort her uncle in his final moments.[/QUOTE]
Jesus Christ, you're treating breakyourfac like some morally reprehensible demon, and then you say off-the-wall horrible shit like this.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;41154599]Hmm, he probably wouldn't have a legal obligation to even report the accident, so good on him for doing so.[/QUOTE]
I am so happy you are banned, please stay out, your bad vibes are not needed in this time. I feel like shit enough, because I feel like somehow it's my fault I let this girl witness the car accident which killed somebody so close to her.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;41154599]Hmm, he probably wouldn't have a legal obligation to even report the accident, so good on him for doing so.[/QUOTE]
Why are you acting like the OP could have done literally anything differently to change the outcome of the night's events?
[QUOTE=DogGunn;41154563]That's fucking horrible, and I'm sorry to hear that. But at least she didn't get comfort her uncle in his final moments.
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I think you're even worse than what you're making the OP out to be right now.
[QUOTE=joes33431;41154602]Jesus Christ, you're treating breakyourfac like some morally reprehensible demon, and then you say off-the-wall horrible shit like this.[/QUOTE]
His arguments are pointless because if he bothered to read the article carefully, he would've realized the guy died at the scene.
[quote=The article]the victim was declared dead at the scene.[/quote]
So even [i]if[/i] he managed to pull a man out from the flipped Fiero, he'd be pulling out the body of his passengers uncle. That would've been even more traumatic in my opinion.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;41154538]So you watched a horrible accident, were driving while high, still smoking, had alcohol in the car, then drove off after making your "anonymous" report.
Perhaps it's you who doesn't think things through? You've demonstrated that you couldn't give two hoots about any legal or social obligation you may have. What an upstanding person you are.
Hey, but at least you pulled over before using your phone... probably for the first time ever.[/QUOTE]
Ok, I normally would've left an internet argument by now but you really need to think about this. Imagine OP waited around like you're so desperately willing he did, and you're at the scene too. EMS shows up and gets the body out, tries CPR, defib, etc but he's not coming back. Do you lambast the docs for taking too long, for not being smart enough, for not trying and not caring about the guy's life, because if only they cared as much as you did, he'd be alive? Or do you pat them on the back, say nice try, and go home and try to live on? What if you were OP and you did everything you like to pretend you would and the guy still dies, how would you feel if you posted it on FP and half of the replies are about how you're a lazy piece of shit for not magically bringing the guy back?
This is like the first rule of healthcare. You do your best and move on, and allow your peers to do the same. You can spend years going over the "could've"s, "should've"s, make each incident into violent arguments, and let it get you down as much as you want, but sooner or later you need to accept that what's done is done. The sooner you can do that, the better, and this is why you've drawn as much flak as you have.
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;41153751]THERE WAS SOMEBODY ELSE ON THE SCENE, YOU ARE NOT LEGALLY OBLIGATED TO HELP AT A FUCKING CRASH.
A fucking school teacher got into a fatal car accident and in the story it said the caller said "Am I obligated to go to the car and try to help him?" the 911 operator said no, and the person just waited at the scene for the police. Does that make that person a horrible monster you people are making me out to be? For fucks sake I watched somebody die last night, as if that wasn't traumatizing enough, you people expect me to have the same instinct/training as an EMS crew and just run right up to a bloody ass scene and be able to save the guy.[/QUOTE]
Your defense is that [I]you're not obligated to help someone[/I]. You clearly don't even realize what that says about you as a person. That kind of mentality is why people burn to death in car wrecks needlessly.
[QUOTE=joes33431;41154549]He did stop?
He pulled over, to call?
What else do you want him to do, stand there and stare at the wreck?[/QUOTE]
[i]Also, from my understanding, the OP didn't stop at the scene (nor does he make any indication of stopping ever, he just simply says he reported it).[/i]
You know what? Let's go full "asshole mode". Yes. He should have stopped and stared at the of a car wreck with a man that lay either dead or dying in it. I feel that's the right thing to do, even if you're going to traumatize yourself in the process. In the end, I believe the guilt of not stopping will almost always out weigh the trauma from seeing someone die. At least if you actually stop, you can go thinking that you did everything that you could have in the situation. All that will happen is you'll live in regret of the situation always thinking, "Maybe I could have done this or that" or "Is it my fault since I didn't stop?" Because of the OP's decisions, he will now always think back on this wondering if he could have done anything if he had stopped. Am I the cause of that thinking since I basically started this whole debate? Maybe, but I will never think I was wrong in pointing it out or bringing it up. I may not have been in the OP's shoes when it all happened, but I know with certainty that I would have stopped, because I would never want someone to just drive past me in the same situation.
[QUOTE=and;41154664]This is like the first rule of healthcare. You do your best and move on, and allow your peers to do the same. You can spend years going over the "could've"s, "should've"s, make each incident into violent arguments, and let it get you down as much as you want, but sooner or later you need to accept that what's done is done. The sooner you can do that, the better, and this is why you've drawn as much flak as you have.[/QUOTE]
Now just think about the "could've" and "should've" that will result from not stopping at all. At least if you stop, you can at least acknowledge that there was nothing you could do, instead of always wondering "If I had stopped, could I have actually done something"? Even if you're told after the incident that there was nothing you could have done, you will still think on wondering if there really wasn't, since you didn't actually stop to check, and you didn't see it with your own eyes. It's much easier to confront things and believe them when you see it yourself.
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doggunn, from all your posts, it sounds that your dream as kid was to become a cynical prosecutor or something like that: i suggest you then to buy ace attorney investigations: miles edgeworth. at least you can torture virtual people with it, nor real ones.
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