• Police Brutality: Deaf Woodcarver Murdered By Cop In 5 seconds
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[QUOTE=mobrockers;26906945]I read about this shit on the internet all day, your statement is false.[/QUOTE] Really? I find that hard to believe. So, quite frankly, I'll take your statement as a grain of salt. This. "I read about this everday" typically is from biased news sources and lack of understanding of Law Enforcement procedures. Procedure, in this case, was not properly followed. This officer was not properly trained to handle situations. This is not the case everywhere.
[QUOTE=HkSniper;26906900]The point went clear over your head.[/QUOTE] Your points don't apply to this situation so we can dismiss them as we please. [QUOTE=HkSniper;26906900]You do? This is not an everyday occurrence. A tragic one, but not something that you see constantly occurring.[/QUOTE] Uh, there are plenty of cases of people retrieving a wallet or identification from their pockets and being shot on suspicion of a weapon.
[QUOTE=HkSniper;26906971]Really? I find that hard to believe. So, quite frankly, I'll take your statement as a grain of salt.[/QUOTE] Why do you find that hard to believe? The internet is large ya know.
[QUOTE=Billiam;26906980]Your points don't apply to this situation so we can dismiss them as we please. Uh, there are plenty of cases of people retrieving a wallet or identification from their pockets and being shot on suspicion of a weapon.[/QUOTE] My points do apply, because anytime this style of situation occurs people say the same thing. "Why did they not use the taser, why did they not use OC?" People act like those two tools are a surefire method. I just wish you people would bother to read through the rest of my post to see my opinion on the actual scenario that occurred, rather than reading one portion of the post and jumping to conclusions. While I agree there have been situations in which that has occurred, they do not happen frequently. So, your dream world of police brutality and every cop being trigger happy is false.
[QUOTE=HkSniper;26907027]My points do apply, because anytime this style of situation occurs people say the same thing. "Why did they not use the taser, why did they not use OC?" People act like those two tools are a surefire method. I just wish you people would bother to read through the rest of my post to see my opinion on the actual scenario that occurred, rather than reading one portion of the post and jumping to conclusions. While I agree there have been situations in which that has occurred, they do not happen frequently. So, your dream world of police brutality and every cop being trigger happy is false.[/QUOTE] Except that it is not, there are more and more reports of trigger happy cops.
[QUOTE=mobrockers;26907066]Except that it is not, there are more and more reports of trigger happy cops.[/QUOTE] Proof? There is a saying in news. "Bad news is good news." You will only see the bad. Rarely the good. This is especially true in law enforcement.
old ass dude, possibly crazy out of his mind is walking down the street with an open knife which is against the law. The cop, completely unaware of the man's intentions yells at him to drop the weapon, and he didn't. The cop has no prior knowledge of this man's hearing condition and has to take the initiative. I'm not saying he should have shot him five times, that was a bit unnecessary, tasing would have been the more effective option. Just saying the cop did his job poorly, but he still did his job.
[QUOTE=HkSniper;26907027]My points do apply, because anytime this style of situation occurs people say the same thing. "Why did they not use the taser, why did they not use OC?" [/QUOTE] You said if this was a true self defense situation. But that isn't the situation you described in your post, the officer clearly misdiagnosed the situation and killed an innocent man because of this. [QUOTE=HkSniper;26907027]While I agree there have been situations in which that has occurred, they do not happen frequently. So, your dream world of police brutality and every cop being trigger happy is false.[/QUOTE] Thanks for twisting my words around, I clearly stated that all police officers were awful people, yep that's exactly what I said. No, I said there were plenty of cases of police brutality or recklessness and that's unarguable, and when they do occur someone should be punished.
[QUOTE=HkSniper;26907027]My points do apply, because anytime this style of situation occurs people say the same thing. "Why did they not use the taser, why did they not use OC?" People act like those two tools are a surefire method. I just wish you people would bother to read through the rest of my post to see my opinion on the actual scenario that occurred, rather than reading one portion of the post and jumping to conclusions. While I agree there have been situations in which that has occurred, they do not happen frequently. So, your dream world of police brutality and every cop being trigger happy is false.[/QUOTE] Tazers aren't effective in a situation where the attacker is really intent on fucking you up, in most of these situations, that isn't the case and the person usually appears calm and normal.
[quote=thechantzguy;26907126]old ass dude, possibly crazy out of his mind is walking down the street with an open knife which is against the law. The cop, completely unaware of the man's intentions yells at him to drop the weapon, and he didn't. The cop has no prior knowledge of this man's hearing condition and has to take the initiative. I'm not saying he should have shot him five times, that was a bit unnecessary, tasing would have been the more effective option. Just saying the cop did his job poorly, but he still did his job.[/quote] HEY YOU DROP THE FUCKING KnIVE BOOMBOOMBOOMBOOMBOOM
[QUOTE=TheChantzGuy;26907126]old ass dude, possibly crazy out of his mind is walking down the street with an open knife which is against the law. The cop, completely unaware of the man's intentions yells at him to drop the weapon, and he didn't. The cop has no prior knowledge of this man's hearing condition and has to take the initiative. I'm not saying he should have shot him five times, that was a bit unnecessary, tasing would have been the more effective option. Just saying the cop did his job poorly, but he still did his job.[/QUOTE] I do not see him doing his job. He ended a life that he should not have. By not following procedure - he did NOT do his job. Like I said before... This subject, if he had truly been concerned, should have been observed for a short time or the officer should have requested backup units and waited for their arrival prior to approaching.
[QUOTE=HkSniper;26907081]Proof? There is a saying in news. "Bad news is good news." You will only see the bad. Rarely the good. This is especially true in law enforcement.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry they don't report on every police officer who stops a crime or catches a baddy, it's their job. They aren't supposed to go straight for the gun every chance they get, so when this happens, hell yes it gets publicised, because it's wrong.
[QUOTE=HkSniper;26906971]Really? I find that hard to believe. So, quite frankly, I'll take your statement as a grain of salt.[/QUOTE] oh shit people this is a man who knows his euphemisms you don't want to mess with his shit or else he'll throw babies in bathwater at your glass house
[QUOTE=TheChantzGuy;26907126]old ass dude, possibly crazy out of his mind is walking down the street with an open knife which is against the law. The cop, completely unaware of the man's intentions yells at him to drop the weapon, and he didn't. The cop has no prior knowledge of this man's hearing condition and has to take the initiative. I'm not saying he should have shot him five times, that was a bit unnecessary, tasing would have been the more effective option. Just saying the cop did his job poorly, but he still did his job.[/QUOTE] You're taking into account the possibility that he was crazy and not the possibility that he was deaf which is probably equally as likely?
[QUOTE=HkSniper;26907081]Proof? There is a saying in news. "Bad news is good news." You will only see the bad. Rarely the good. This is especially true in law enforcement.[/QUOTE] Aren't you thinking of, "No news is good news?"
[QUOTE=Mingebox;26907282]Aren't you thinking of, "No news is good news?"[/QUOTE] like i said this motherfucker knows his sayings he knows them like a bird in the hand knows that you shouldn't put all your stones in one bush
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;26907309]like i said this motherfucker knows his sayings he knows them like a bird in the hand knows that you shouldn't put all your stones in one bush[/QUOTE] Well I know people in glass houses shouldn't call the kettle black, but sometimes you got to break a few eggs before they hatch.
[QUOTE=TheChantzGuy;26907126]old ass dude, possibly crazy out of his mind is walking down the street with an open knife which is against the law. The cop, completely unaware of the man's intentions yells at him to drop the weapon, and he didn't. The cop has no prior knowledge of this man's hearing condition and has to take the initiative. I'm not saying he should have shot him five times, that was a bit unnecessary, tasing would have been the more effective option. Just saying the cop did his job poorly, but he still did his job.[/QUOTE] An old guy crossing the street with a small knife and a piece of wood is obviously a serial killer with mad knife-throwing skills, right ? the cop was the really crazy one here.
"Ma'am he had a knife and he wouldn't drop it" SO I SHOT HIM 5 TIMES
[QUOTE=HkSniper;26906814]Did you not read the rest of my post? Of course not. I mention other scenarios, not this one in particular. People are such nit-pickers on someone's post that it's funny. Learn to read the rest of people's posts before spouting out bullshit. :) In some locations, however. Yes. Carrying a pocket knife is illegal. I do not agree with it, as I carry one with me all the time. But in some locations, he may have been breaking the law. If we want to get technical about this.[/QUOTE] [quote] [B]Pocket Knife Laws in Washington[/B] [LIST=1][B]Law of Length[/B] [*] The allowable length of a knife's blade varies by local ordinances, from 3 to 4 inches. This includes regular pocket knives carried concealed or openly. Any knife over 3 inches in blade length carried concealed or openly in public could result in an arrest. [/LIST] [LIST=1][B]Law of Use[/B] [*] Washington's code goes further in describing unlawful knife behavior. Even a regular pocketknife under three inches, or any "cutting or stabbing instrument...capable of producing bodily harm" can be considered a weapon when it is used in an act of intimidation or danger to some other person.[/quote] [/LIST] let's not jump to conclusions, kay? [editline]23rd December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=TheChantzGuy;26907126]old ass dude, possibly crazy out of his mind is walking down the street with an open knife which is against the law. The cop, completely unaware of the man's intentions yells at him to drop the weapon, and he didn't. The cop has no prior knowledge of this man's hearing condition and has to take the initiative. I'm not saying he should have shot him five times, that was a bit unnecessary, tasing would have been the more effective option. Just saying the cop did his job poorly, but he still did his job.[/QUOTE] btw the knife was found closed at the crime scene
i hope that cop is okay, i mean, a knife and a piece of wood? can you say overkill? Fucking piece of shit, I hope he get's ass-raped to death.
[QUOTE=TheChantzGuy;26907126]old ass dude, possibly crazy out of his mind is walking down the street with an open knife which is against the law. The cop, completely unaware of the man's intentions yells at him to drop the weapon, and he didn't. The cop has no prior knowledge of this man's hearing condition and has to take the initiative. I'm not saying he should have shot him five times, that was a bit unnecessary, tasing would have been the more effective option. Just saying the cop did his job poorly, but he still did his job.[/QUOTE] The knife wasn't open, and if someone doesn't hear you, you open fire on them or taze them? Oh, and tazing could kill an older man like that. :downs:
I want to be a cop when I'm done serving in the military, and it's people like this that make me worry about becoming a cop.
[QUOTE=lilcheeseladv2;26907644]The knife wasn't open, and if someone doesn't hear you, you open fire on them or taze them? Oh, and tazing could kill an older man like that. :downs:[/QUOTE] the man died anyways, might as well die getting cooked
I don't care what anyone says about laws regarding knives, or whether or not the guy had it out in the open. The guy with the knife clearly was not running after anyone with it, and was not posing a threat in the slightest. There's that, plus the fact that he told the guy to drop the knife twice and shot him five seconds later. Even if he could hear with both ears, there's a possibility he wouldn't have even known the cop was talking to him, and even if he DID hear him, it still seems like he would have been shot before he had a proper chance to react.
[QUOTE=Snapzies;26907714]I want to be a cop when I'm done serving in the military, and it's people like this that make me worry about becoming a cop.[/QUOTE] becoming a bounty hunter or a Blackwater member, you'd probably end up having a better public image.
wait, so did the cop NOT see the wood?
[QUOTE=eatdembeanz;26898832]If someone is walking around with a knife and not responding to anything, and you have a deadly weapon, if you're like this cop, you're going to take initiative. Sometimes, people just make spur of the moment decisions and unload a round into a person, then, out of panic/adrenaline, unload four more.[/QUOTE] Yes but he's a fucking police officer, he should be trained not to do this bullshit. Remember, this isn't just some average joe driving around who figures he's a threat, it's a cop. He knew better and was trained better.
[quote]Birk, 27, was ordered to surrender his gun and badge.[/quote] Good, fucking idiot doesn't deserve to be a cop. What a trigger happy cunt.
[QUOTE=Micr0;26907869]Good, fucking idiot doesn't deserve to be a cop. What a trigger happy cunt.[/QUOTE] kill a man: get put in prison immediately, lose the rest of your life kill a man as a cop: get fired wonderful system we have here
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