• Police Brutality: Deaf Woodcarver Murdered By Cop In 5 seconds
    296 replies, posted
[QUOTE=aydin690;26916649]Nobody put a gun to their heads and forced them to become cops. If they can't shoot somebody in the leg in CC from behind then they should probably go find another job. Also, i would love to hear your explanation on why he shot him FIVE times instead of just shooting him once.[/QUOTE] Maybe you should be a cop so you can politely ask armed gunmen to stand still and out of the way of any bystanders you can shoot them in the leg.
[QUOTE=aydin690;26916649]Why he shot him FIVE times instead of just shooting him once.[/QUOTE] I would like to hear your explanation on why it matters? The guy was more than likely mortally wounded after the first shot.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;26916723]I would like to hear your explanation on why it matters? The guy was more than likely mortally wounded after the first shot.[/QUOTE] It matters because he probably would have lived. [editline]23rd December 2010[/editline] Five shots in rapid succession is different from *one shot* *pause* Is he immobilized/neutralized? yes=> approach him, take away the knife, CPR No=> maybe one more shot [editline]23rd December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Mingebox;26916713]Maybe you should be a cop so you can politely ask armed gunmen to stand still and out of the way of any bystanders you can shoot them in the leg.[/QUOTE] He had a fuckin carving knife not a fuckin machine gun.
[QUOTE=aydin690;26916902]It matters because he probably would have lived.[/QUOTE] [img]http://www.thrombosisadviser.co.uk/html/images/library/haemostasis/thrombus-pulmonary-embolism-PU.jpg[/img] Try not to hit the red while you're shooting, and take down the suspect while not killing him at the same time.
[QUOTE=TH89;26915807]It's not dumb as fuck. Cops aren't Navy SEALs. Lethal weapons shouldn't be used on someone you don't intend to kill.[/QUOTE] And why did he have to kill him? Just because he had a knife and he was walking away in a non-threatening manner? [editline]23rd December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=CabooseRvB;26916975][img_thumb]http://www.thrombosisadviser.co.uk/html/images/library/haemostasis/thrombus-pulmonary-embolism-PU.jpg[/img_thumb] Try not to hit the red while you're shooting, and take down the suspect while not killing him at the same time.[/QUOTE] I don't know if you listened to your stats prof but firing 5 shots instead of just 1 increases the chances of you hitting the red. :downs:
What the fuck? What if the guy wasn't deaf but couldn't speak english, he'd shoot him too?
[QUOTE=aydin690;26916992] I don't know if you listened to your stats prof but firing 5 shots instead of just 1 increases the chances of you hitting the red. :downs:[/QUOTE] Shooting a person anywhere is just as lethal at shooting someone in the center of mass.
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;26917056]What the fuck? What if the guy wasn't deaf but couldn't speak english, he'd shoot him too?[/QUOTE] Yes, of course. Welcome to the united states of america where guns and trigger happy morons trump everything. [editline]23rd December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=CabooseRvB;26917102]Shooting a person anywhere is just as lethal at shooting someone in the center of mass.[/QUOTE] Not true.
What a fucking dick, I mean I would just take him to the ground or taser if we looked like that much of a threat, police are always such dicks, I mean really sure they go through training but that dosen't make them greater than the average man, they think they can commit murder whenever they want, take their money, and plain out abuse their "powers" which is pretty much their gun and shiny badge. Fucked up world we live in today.
[QUOTE=aydin690;26917120] Not true.[/QUOTE] So tasers, mace, batons and tear gas would be deemed redundant in taking down suspects and criminals?
[QUOTE=aydin690;26916708]That's just dumb. Instead of shooting him 5 times in the torso he could have aimed at his legs and at least one of those 5 shots would have hit him in the leg (unless he sucks giant balls at aiming).[/QUOTE] Guns are for killing. Tasers are for stopping. How thick headed are you? You can die from being shot in the leg [img]http://chestofbooks.com/health/anatomy/Human-Body-Construction/images/Fig-535-Collateral-circulation-after-ligation-of-femoral.jpg[/img] See that big red line? That bursts, you're dead.
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;26917199]So tasers, mace, batons and tear gas would be deemed redundant in taking down suspects and criminals?[/QUOTE] What? What are you even trying to say? He had no reason to shoot him in the first place, let alone shooting him 5 times in the torso. [editline]23rd December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Dr. Freeman;26917247]Guns are for killing. Tasers are for stopping. How thick headed are you? You can die from being shot in the leg [img_thumb]http://chestofbooks.com/health/anatomy/Human-Body-Construction/images/Fig-535-Collateral-circulation-after-ligation-of-femoral.jpg[/img_thumb] See that big red line? That bursts, you're dead.[/QUOTE] You still have a higher chance of surviving a leg wound than a shot in the torso because you have more vital organs in your torso. :downs:
[QUOTE=aydin690;26917250]What? What are you even trying to say? He had no reason to shoot him in the first place, let alone shoot him 5 times in the torso. [editline]23rd December 2010[/editline] You still have a higher chance of surviving a leg wound than a shot in the torso because you have more vital organs in your torso. :downs:[/QUOTE] We're not advocating the shooting, we're calling you retarded for thinking he should have shot his leg. What he should have done in reality is tased him.
[QUOTE=aydin690;26917250]What? What are you even trying to say? He had no reason to shoot him in the first place, let alone shooting him 5 times in the torso. [editline]23rd December 2010[/editline] You still have a higher chance of surviving a leg wound than a shot in the torso because you have more vital organs in your torso. :downs:[/QUOTE] Yes, that IS true, but it's still too risky. Why can't you just maze, use the night stick or taze him? Why use a gun?
[QUOTE=aydin690;26916992]And why did he have to kill him? Just because he had a knife and he was walking away in a non-threatening manner?[/QUOTE] I didn't say he "had to kill him," he made an incredibly bad decision and is paying for it. But your idea that cops should somehow be super ninja Matrix agents who can take people down by shooting them in various body parts from long range is really really dumb. That only happens in videogames. The gun is made to kill people.
[QUOTE=aydin690;26916902]It matters because he probably would have lived. Five shots in rapid succession is different from *one shot* *pause* Is he immobilized/neutralized? yes=> approach him, take away the knife, CPR No=> maybe one more shot [/QUOTE] CPR for exsanguination? You should be an EMS, too. [QUOTE=aydin690;26916902] He had a fuckin carving knife not a fuckin machine gun.[/QUOTE] If you were paying attention, you'd realize we were talking about the general policy and not this specific situation.
[QUOTE=TH89;26917331]I didn't say he "had to kill him," he made an incredibly bad decision and is paying for it. But your idea that cops should somehow be super ninja Matrix agents who can take people down by shooting them in various body parts from long range is really really dumb. That only happens in videogames. The gun is made to kill people.[/QUOTE] While I think TH89 is a bit of a douche sometimes (I can DEFINITELY be too) , he is a very sharp blade. He has a sharp point in this as well. In that sense, I can respect him.
[QUOTE=TH89;26917331]I didn't say he "had to kill him," he made an incredibly bad decision and is paying for it. But your idea that cops should somehow be super ninja Matrix agents who can take people down by shooting them in various body parts from long range is really really dumb. That only happens in videogames. The gun is made to kill people.[/QUOTE] Judging by how fast he was walking and how fast the cop got behind him there should have been 5 meters max in between them. I don't know about you but most people can make the shot from that distance.
[QUOTE=TH89;26917331]I didn't say he "had to kill him," he made an incredibly bad decision and is paying for it. But your idea that cops should somehow be super ninja Matrix agents who can take people down by shooting them in various body parts from long range is really really dumb. That only happens in videogames. The gun is made to kill people.[/QUOTE] I think his basic point is that the cop was expressly trying to kill him, not that police should all aim for the legs of perps.
[QUOTE=aydin690;26917411]Judging by how fast he was walking and how fast the cop got behind him there should have been 5 meters max in between them. I don't know about you but most people can make the shot from that distance.[/QUOTE] most people don't have to shoot people
[QUOTE=aydin690;26917411]Judging by how fast he was walking and how fast the cop got behind him there should have been 5 meters max in between them. I don't know about you but most people can make the shot from that distance.[/QUOTE] Doesn't fucking matter. You don't shoot someone with a FIREARM to not kill them. That's why cops carry like 15 thousand non lethal weapons.
[QUOTE=aydin690;26917411]Judging by how fast he was walking and how fast the cop got behind him there should have been 5 meters max in between them. I don't know about you but most people can make the shot from that distance.[/QUOTE] Actually, most people have no idea how to shoot a gun. Again, it sounds like you are getting your ideas about guns from video games and movies. They are fictional, and do not reflect real life.
[QUOTE=TH89;26917451]Actually, most people have no idea how to shoot a gun. Again, it sounds like you are getting your ideas about guns from video games and movies. They are fictional, and do not reflect real life.[/QUOTE] Dude, i live in CANADA and i know how to use a gun. That's like the most peaceful place in the world.
[QUOTE=aydin690;26917487]Dude, i live in CANADA and i know how to use a gun. That's like the most peaceful place in the world.[/QUOTE] How many knife-wielding people have you disarmed by shooting them in the leg?
[QUOTE=aydin690;26917487]Dude, i live in CANADA and i know how to use a gun. That's like the most peaceful place in the world.[/QUOTE] And then the arguments are ignored.
[QUOTE=TH89;26917503]How many knife-wielding people have you disarmed by shooting them in the leg?[/QUOTE] Zero but at least i know i can make the shot from 5m away.
No point in arguing with aydin690. He is a expert pistoleer and shoots bad guys in the legs for a living. Yes you can make a shot at a NON-MOVING target from 5m away.
Okay look, let me try to explain this from another angle. Let's say you're a cop. There's a guy getting away who you want to stop, but you don't have any reason to kill him. You pull out your gun and try to shoot him in the leg. Oops! You missed and shot him in the head by mistake. Now he's dead. Do you think people are going to say "oh well that's a shame, but the officer wasn't shooting to kill, so that's alright." Or are they going to say "this is the last straw, these power tripping cops can get away with murder!" Considering how outraged people get over the occasional death from the "non-lethal" taser, I'd guess it'd be something like the latter.
aydin please just admit that you are wrong so we can stop making you look stupid
[QUOTE=RichyZ;26917612]Hes probably using experiences from True Crime: NYC or MW2 (the part where you shoot the guy in the leg to capture him) as his basis for thinking a shot in the leg is acceptable.[/QUOTE] shooting people in that game is such a non issue, they just get back up generally, it's ridiculous, in real life people would probably die from some of the shots people in that game take on a minutely basis.
Sorry, you need to Log In to post a reply to this thread.