[QUOTE=sp00ks;22503652]No one is threatening me with eternal torment, so I'd say I'm not very brainwashed.[/QUOTE]
Perfect argument, if you aren't threatened with eternal torment then you aren't brainwashed. I'll just assume that a promise of eternal pleasure is also brainwashing because just look at those suicidal cults.
[QUOTE=teeheeV2;22505800]Quit while you are ahead[/QUOTE]
Better idea, lets argue. It is always good to have any of your core values questioned.
[QUOTE=Pepin;22510066]Perfect argument, if you aren't threatened with eternal torment then you aren't brainwashed. I'll just assume that a promise of eternal pleasure is also brainwashing because just look at those suicidal cults.
Better idea, lets argue. It is always good to have any of your core values questioned.[/QUOTE]
Just stop Pepin.
Just stop.
[QUOTE=teeheeV2;22505800]Didn't Einstein hold 1/3 of the worlds knowledge in his head or something?[/QUOTE]
This post is so stupid I want to kill myself.
I am a buddhist, what now.
What do you mean?
Well, the science versus religion debate allways seems to focus around the theist religions. What about taoists for example? Could Science be combined with abstract philosophy?
As a buddhist, i have no problem combining science and religion, because the two have no major conflicting issues with eachother.
Do you know that many strains of Buddhism are theist and just as nutty as the desert cults?
Philosophy. Sounds like Sophism. Often is. I really don't like philosphy.
[QUOTE=Theater;22511954]Well, the science versus religion debate allways seems to focus around the theist religions. What about taoists for example? Could Science be combined with abstract philosophy?
As a buddhist, i have no problem combining science and religion, because the two have no major conflicting issues with eachother.[/QUOTE]
Here's my question: Why do you need to be told what to believe?
Why subscribe to some abstract philosophy when you have the capability to think for yourself?
[QUOTE=Theater;22511954]Well, the science versus religion debate allways seems to focus around the theist religions. What about taoists for example? Could Science be combined with abstract philosophy?
As a buddhist, i have no problem combining science and religion, because the two have no major conflicting issues with eachother.[/QUOTE]
Read up about the many worlds hypothesis, M theory and Quantum Mechanics.
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[QUOTE=that1dude24;22512620]Here's my question: Why do you need to be told what to believe?
Why subscribe to some abstract philosophy when you have the capability to think for yourself?[/QUOTE]
Because philosophy is frequently quite good, and if it's been thought about once in time it's been thought about countless times, and some people have even written down their views in it, and sometimes some people agree with those views.
For example:
[img]http://emptinessofexistence.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/epicurus.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=bravehat;22513159]Read up about the many worlds hypothesis, M theory and Quantum Mechanics.
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Because philosophy is frequently quite good, and if it's been thought about once in time it's been thought about countless times, and some people have even written down their views in it, and sometimes some people agree with those views.
For example:
epicurus.jpg[/QUOTE]
[sp]I love that quotation.[/sp]
I never intended to imply that philosophy was a bad thing, it's just that it seems narrow-minded to call yourself something based on which philosophies you subscribe to. Rather than simply learning from those quotations, deciding to put yourself into a group seems silly as its likely that you do not agree with all of the ideas that belong to that group.
[QUOTE=Ishmael12;22470237][release]Celebrated physicist Stephen Hawking knows more about the universe than almost any other person ever to [B]walk[/B] the planet, but some answers still escape even him.
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really? :downsrim:
[QUOTE=mr_big90;22515617]really? :downsrim:[/QUOTE]
He wasn't crippled his whole life, was he now.
I always wondered how he took shits.
*Electronic Voice*
Hellen, change my goddamn diaper, I shit my self again.
What do you mean were out? Go to the goddamn store.
Volume 80% Echo mode on.
I DON'T CARE IF YOU GOT A SPEEDING TICKET GO TO WALMART AND GET SOME GODDAMN HUGGIES.
Goddamn woman.
But yea on topic, I just watched Hawkings Universe.
Amazing movie.
Just to be funny someone should make a religion based off of Steven Hawking.
[QUOTE=zombojoe;22482599]I have hard time believing that part. Anyone who is serious about religion will reject any mention of science, since it essentially disproves their myths and legends which is what their religion is based upon.[/QUOTE]
You're mixing religions and fundamentalism.
It's sad how people think they are the same thing.
Stephen Hawking states the obvious
[QUOTE=Talishmar;22520650]You're mixing religions and fundamentalism.
It's sad how people think they are the same thing.[/QUOTE]
Religious pluralism and literalism(Fundamentalism) are different. Pluralism is wrong(non-fundamental) as far as the religion is concerned. You are supposed to fanatical, fundamental, etc about your religion, that is the point of them. That is why religions are wrong.
And most scientists dont have beliefs in religion, and the ones that do are very philosophical with what they believe generally.
[QUOTE=Talishmar;22520650]You're mixing religions and fundamentalism.
It's sad how people think they are the same thing.[/QUOTE]
Both are equally flawed. Without the hand of knowledge, religion is nothing but superstition and barbarism. Because religion is nothing more than any other dogma, a tool to be used by the powerful to control the small. A feint hope dangled always just out of reach, a carrot on the end of a stick that is used to drive civilization.
It offers no advance. It offers no future. It offers only complacency and contentedness where there should be drive and innovation.
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Philosophy = I should not kill my fellow man if he has not done anything to me because it infringes on his right to live.
Religion = Don't kill people because god said so, except the gays, they are okay to kill.[/QUOTE]
What religion are you talking about? The last time I checked all religions didn't allow killing gays.
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[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22521277]Both are equally flawed. Without the hand of knowledge, religion is nothing but superstition and barbarism. Because religion is nothing more than any other dogma, a tool to be used by the powerful to control the small. A feint hope dangled always just out of reach, a carrot on the end of a stick that is used to drive civilization.
It offers no advance. It offers no future. It offers only complacency and contentedness where there should be drive and innovation.[/QUOTE]
Religion is not only a tool of power. It offers guidance when used right.
There's no need to answer the question "science or religion".
My view on this matter is that there is no contradiction, the subjects are just currently very far from each other.
[QUOTE=Talishmar;22521392]What religion are you talking about? The last time I checked all religions didn't allow killing gays.
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Religion is not only a tool of power. It offers guidance when used right.
There's no need to answer the question "science or religion".
My view on this matter is that there is no contradiction, the subjects are just currently very far from each other.[/QUOTE]
Really? Religion tells you things about the world we can prove to be wrong now. Its moral messages are limited and very much not what we need in this day and age. What are you trying to get at? They contradict each other all the time.
I dont care if someone is religious personally, as long as it doesnt affect anyone else, but I will point out when you are wrong, clearly. And you are clearly wrong here.
The difference between him and the average Facepuncher is that he is not an antitheist. He's not an atheist, either.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;22470419]we should elect him Emperor of Mankind.[/QUOTE]
Fucking this
Dibs on being the right hand of Golden Throne
[QUOTE=Talishmar;22521392]What religion are you talking about? The last time I checked all religions didn't allow killing gays.
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Religion is not only a tool of power. It offers guidance when used right.
There's no need to answer the question "science or religion".
My view on this matter is that there is no contradiction, the subjects are just currently very far from each other.[/QUOTE]
Religions allow whatever people want them to allow.
Guidance to what end? There is no logic in religion, religion being a set of dogmatic rules, so that guidance can easily be twisted and swayed by both people and leaders to fit the occasion. So in essence you're just saying what I said.
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[QUOTE=Roskarnolkov;22521517]The difference between him and the average Facepuncher is that he is not an antitheist. He's not an atheist, either.[/QUOTE]
He's a scientist. He doesn't have time to spend caring about irrelevant questions, especially with his conditions.
He isn't an antitheist because he doesn't find the topic something to spend his efforts on.
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