Egypt protests: America's secret backing for rebel leaders behind uprising
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Just when i thought i posted something stupid in the other thread...
I'm so happy to hear them helping out!
The US aids Egypt with around 2.3 billion USD per year, train the Egyptian military and arms it with advanced military equipment. I don't know what to say about this report.
[QUOTE=ohadje;27719390]The US aids Egypt with around 2.3 billion USD per year, train the Egyptian military and arms it with advanced military equipment. I don't know what to say about this report.[/QUOTE]
Maybe they want to see how well the army they've trained does :v:
American backing of the rebels? Really? Egypt as it is (Or was, rather) is our Ally... This 'report' is bullshit
yeah i'm pretty sure this is bullshit. why the hell would america support groups that most likely wouldn't support their interests in the east? and if they did certainly not to the extent that mubarak does.
You realize that this is a bad thing. The US wants to keep instability in the region.
[QUOTE=ohadje;27719390]The US aids Egypt with around 2.3 billion USD per year, train the Egyptian military and arms it with advanced military equipment. I don't know what to say about this report.[/QUOTE]
It's like when big corporations give money to both candidates for political office- you want to be able to claim to be friends with whoever wins.
Whoever this dissident is, if his group winds up in power the US government will tell him "we were always on your side remember?"...hoping he and the rest of the Egyptian people will forget about the previous 30 years we poured in billions to support Mubarak.
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;27720345]It's like when big corporations give money to both candidates for political office- you want to be able to claim to be friends with whoever wins.
Whoever this dissident is, if his group winds up in power the US government will tell him "we were always on your side remember?"...hoping he and the rest of the Egyptian people will forget about the previous 30 years we poured in billions to support Mubarak.[/QUOTE]
The only problem is that the leading forces behind the riots are the Muslim Brotherhood and other anti-American groups. That just doesn't sound right...
Did everyone miss the bit the Nobel prize winning Pro-Reform leader?
[QUOTE=yawmwen;27717539]I thought Egypt was US backed.[/QUOTE]
We just want whoever ends up in power there to like us. Obviously we'd prefer that it be a democratic government rather than a borderline dictator
After that sort of rebellion, I'm kind of thinking that US interference would be good, as long as they did it for good reasons.
If people are super stirred up like that, there's a chance they could install someone who's still a shit leader. They'd need some large force that's thinking more clearly to help them with it.
[QUOTE=Rubs10;27721810]After that sort of rebellion, I'm kind of thinking that US interference would be good, as long as they did it for good reasons.
If people are super stirred up like that, there's a chance they could install someone who's still a shit leader. They'd need some large force that's thinking more clearly to help them with it.[/QUOTE]
That just gets the US more pissy people angry at it. No intervention is best intervention.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;27721967]That just gets the US more pissy people angry at it. No intervention is best intervention.[/QUOTE]
Uh, I think most people would prefer a good leader/government that was put in with intervention, over a shitty leader/government who respects their rights up until everything smooths over.
Not only that, but America was pushing for the revolution, which has been a good move so far, but we only wait to see if they push for someone of their choosing to be put in.
except the US wouldn't care who gets put into power as long as they get what they want, mostly being oil
[QUOTE=JerryK;27722286]except the US wouldn't care who gets put into power as long as they get what they want, mostly being oil[/QUOTE]
Oil in Egypt?
Suez Canal
my statement was also more general
I'm 99% sure that this is bullshit.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;27725071]I'm 99% sure that this is bullshit.[/QUOTE]
America does something bad, clearly true.
America does something good, oh god it can't be real.
and the rabbit hole just keeps gettin' deeper.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;27725111]America does something bad, clearly true.
America does something good, oh god it can't be real.[/QUOTE]
I'm not just saying this out of the blue, without any base to it. Do you not know the foreign policy of Egypt is and how they're essentially a puppet regime?
[editline]29th January 2011[/editline]
Its like saying the U.S. funded the Islamic Revolution against the Shah.
US is backing them, not that they're even going to help. They're probably going to sit back and watch and maybe do a few minor things in support.
[QUOTE=ohadje;27720591]The only problem is that the leading forces behind the riots are the Muslim Brotherhood and other anti-American groups. That just doesn't sound right...[/QUOTE]
The article says something about 'opposition forces'. I take that to mean there are several parties involved in this, the Muslim Brotherhood being one of them.
It's possible that a more moderate group will front the new Egyptian government, while the Muslim Brotherhood and others are the powers behind the scenes. This would allow for them to control Egypt while still having a relationship with the US and not lose face with other Arab, Muslim, or North African groups.
The reality is that Egypt needs US financial support, at least for now. During the Cold War they could go running to the Soviet Union but now? Maybe China I guess, but what do they have that would interest China?
[quote]I'm not just saying this out of the blue, without any base to it. Do you not know the foreign policy of Egypt is and how they're essentially a puppet regime?[/quote]
Egypt isn't a puppet regime.
[QUOTE=ohadje;27728142]Egypt isn't a puppet regime.[/QUOTE]
It's a called hyperbole. Sure Egypt has it's own independence and sovereignty, but they follow everything the U.S. tells them to do (staunchly support Israel and the blockade and various other things), in exchange for excessive gratuitous amounts of cash.
A clear indicator is the U.S. keeping quiet on his oppression, which they seem to be so vocal about in Iran.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;27717705]I bet the US is behind this and they install a military dictator like they already did to Iran.
I won't be surprised when we find this out.[/QUOTE]
Highly doubt it, this isn't the cold war any more. If the US can win the hearts and minds of the Egyptian rebels then they essentially gain an ally in the middle-east and a much more stable and powerful ally.
doesn't seem so different though does it?
I'll put more belief into this article when I see it re-printed somewhere else. One source isn't good enough for me
Keep in mind there are powers at be, on different sides of the aisle, all hosted in the US.
Some might want the regime to stay, some might want it changed.
It's all politics, and what's said in public is only half the story.
Haven't people watched a bit to many conspiracy theory's on youtube.
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