Trump urges Russia to hack Clinton’s emails - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Matthew0505;50784646][media]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/758335147183788032[/media][/QUOTE] Everyone claimed he wanted a press release and now he's clarifying that he wants the emails submitted to the FBI

[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;50785058]Everyone claimed he wanted a press release and now he's clarifying that he wants the emails submitted to the FBI[/QUOTE] Yeah no shit, because like we said on the last page, there are tons of articles out now lambasting him over that fuck up. I guess it really wasn't apart of his master plan after all.

[QUOTE=plunger435;50785065]Yeah no shit, because like we said on the last page, there are tons of articles out now lambasting him over that fuck up. I guess it really wasn't apart of his master plan after all.[/QUOTE] Was it a fuckup or people misinterpreting what he said I was one of the only skeptics and I was correct in interpreting that he didn't want Russia to do a press release of the emails. The media adds statements that dont go together to arrive at their own conclusions.

[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;50785097]Was it a fuckup or people misinterpreting what he said I was one of the only skeptics and I was correct in interpreting that he didn't want Russia to do a press release of the emails. The media adds statements that dont go together to arrive at their own conclusions.[/QUOTE] The media didn't add statements, you did. People can read this thread and see that. You are so transparently full of shit. [editline]27th July 2016[/editline] You aren't correct of Trump says something, you interpret it incorrectly, then he backpedals to align with what you injected. Stop thinking you are some sort of prophet.

[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;50785097]Was it a fuckup or people misinterpreting what he said I was one of the only skeptics and I was correct in interpreting that he didn't want Russia to do a press release of the emails. The media adds statements that dont go together to arrive at their own conclusions.[/QUOTE] It was a fuckup. Trump says whatever comes to his mind and then he fixes it later. This mindset works fairly well in business, because of people's monkey brains (Make big promises, whip up morale, and then even if you fail to completely deliver as long as you pretend that you're doing well people will like and support you unless you MAJORLY fuck up) like that kind of stuff.

How is this man still running for president after all the crap he's pulled?

someone on the trump subreddit pointed this out [QUOTE]As soon as Trump ended his Press Conference, the NY Times was publishing headlines saying Trump called on Russia to hack Hillary Clinton's emails. Well, Hillary Clinton's server is likely in an evidence locker in Quantico. I am going to go out on a limb and say that it is not plugged in and connected to the internet. Anything that Russia releases would be something they already possess, meaning they would have had to have stolen information while Hillary's server was operational. Here's the Catch-22. If Hillary Clinton is telling the truth and she only deleted emails pertaining to yoga lessons and Chelsea Clinton's wedding, then Russia hacking that information is purely a civil matter. It would be nothing but a foreign government hacking a private citizen. But if Hillary Clinton lied... if she violated the Federal Records Act and destroyed government documents that she had an obligation to preserve... if she violated the Espionage Act and removed classified information from a secure environment, making it available for foreign hackers to steal... then anything Russia puts forward would be evidence of Hillary Clinton committing a crime.[/QUOTE]

Maybe the Russians will reveal the entire Clinton Foundatoin kill list :tinfoil:

It's not hacking a state email server if it's Hillary's private server

[QUOTE=A_Pigeon;50786168]It's not hacking a state email server if it's Hillary's private server[/QUOTE] It's still infringing on America rights and is downright completely illegal. An awful statement to make regardless.

Holy shit. I think everyone in this thread got it really fucking wrong. Let me preface this with saying that I support neither candidate, I think they're both scumbags. I will probably not even vote in November. Regardless of whether Trump was encouraging Russia to hack classified material or not, I'm still not gonna vote for him. However, I think this is very clearly a stab at the whole "Russia influencing OUR election!!!" diversion that the media has been playing in response to the DNC leaks. The point is that regardless of who leaked the emails, they are clearly real. To try and ignore the corruption of the DNC by pointing at Russia is very clearly a diversion. I would rather a foreign nation influence our election with truth than a domestic politician influence it with lies. His point was that corruption being revealed is a GOOD THING, regardless of who is revealing it. He was also making fun of the media's diversion by playing off of it. I don't think he's encouraging foreign espionage. He's referring to the emails she deleted (Whether she did so illegally is another debate). If she deleted them then no form of espionage against us can recover them. He's saying that if someone already has them, then they should turn them over. Personally I though it was funny to see him respond to this accusation by embracing it.

[QUOTE=wystan;50784446]I think you guys are underestimating Trump again, he is playing the media like he always does. This gets attention, but the Clinton camp will respond to it brings the email scandal back into the spotlight, they love trying to get people to not talk about it, because it's so obvious how guilty she is and how much she fucked up. This will work in Trump's favor, watch. Also the timing of this is grand, he does it right after Bill's flattering speech of her, and the day of his AMA, he is more or less undercutting Clinton's media attention and her post-convention bounce (which let's be real here not like she was going to get one anyway :v:)[/QUOTE] honestly, I can see this because NPR today would not shut up about the quote. They mentioned it probably with a 1:1 ratio to everything new concerning Hillary and the DNC.

I don't know how anyone can support him inviting the nation we spent nearly half a century in a cold war with to meddle with American politics [QUOTE=Stents*;50786736]Holy shit. I think everyone in this thread got it really fucking wrong. Let me preface this with saying that I support neither candidate, I think they're both scumbags. I will probably not even vote in November. Regardless of whether Trump was encouraging Russia to hack classified material or not, I'm still not gonna vote for him. However, I think this is very clearly a stab at the whole "Russia influencing OUR election!!!" diversion that the media has been playing in response to the DNC leaks. The point is that regardless of who leaked the emails, they are clearly real. To try and ignore the corruption of the DNC by pointing at Russia is very clearly a diversion. I would rather a foreign nation influence our election with truth than a domestic politician influence it with lies. His point was that corruption being revealed is a GOOD THING, regardless of who is revealing it. He was also making fun of the media's diversion by playing off of it. I don't think he's encouraging foreign espionage. He's referring to the emails she deleted (Whether she did so illegally is another debate). If she deleted them then no form of espionage against us can recover them. He's saying that if someone already has them, then they should turn them over. Personally I though it was funny to see him respond to this accusation by embracing it.[/QUOTE] If he was trying to say that, then why didn't he say that instead?

I think some people here trying to deflect what he said didn't watch the videos of his speech, either way I think it was a bad move on his part to lend credibility the DNC claim that hes working with the Russians on influencing an election. A smart move would of been to deflect blame back at the DNC saying they shouldn't be doing these things in the first place and leave it at that, but he has trouble keeping his mouth shut.

I still dont get how he wanted them to hack people, he prefaces the statement with "If it is Russia". He is clearly saying if Russia has the emails already that they would benefit from releasing them, like if I said the North Korean people would benefit from Kim Jong Un having a fatal coronary it doesn't mean I want people to start pouring salt into his food. It's a clear hatchet job from the Washington Post and people will defend it to the death. That comes with the territory of those who decide 5 second snippets are enough ground to base a argument on. [QUOTE=Raidyr;50784211]It seems like if he says anything like "I hate traffic" the media reports "Trump: I hate traffic" and people like you desperately try to whine about the media afterwords. The video is in OP's article but if you hit a paywall you can bring it up on Youtube pretty easily. You'd have to be deaf to assume sarcasm by the way he was speaking.[/QUOTE] Horse fucking shit. You have been cheated, why do you think most places saying he wanted the hacking aren't using the full C-SPAN clip? Because it proves he was speaking about a hypothetical situation he doesn't even buy into himself. [URL="http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/28/politics/donald-trump-russia-hacking-sarcastic/"]CNN[/URL], [URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-invites-russia-to-meddle-in-the-us-presidential-race-with-clintons-emails/2016/07/27/a85d799e-5414-11e6-b7de-dfe509430c39_story.html"]Washington Post[/URL], [URL="http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/28/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-clinton-emails.html"]New York Times[/URL], [URL="http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/27/the-democrats-just-fell-for-trumps-russian-email-hack-bait-commentary.html"]CNBC[/URL], [URL="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/27/donald-trump-russia-hillary-clinton-emails-dnc-hack"]The Guardian[/URL], [URL="http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/2016-conventions/donald-trump-s-plea-russian-hackers-roils-campaign-n618061"]NBC[/URL], [URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-russia-hack_us_5798d1c8e4b02d5d5ed3b51a"]Huffington Post[/URL] all ran with the shortened clip, doesn't that strike you as a little odd? I dislike Trump quite a lot but I have started to dig into the examples of his shitheelness and whilst his stances on some things are indefensible there are examples of this type of bad journalism which serve no purpose but to create more controversy. [video=youtube;3kxG8uJUsWU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kxG8uJUsWU[/video]

This is actually quite brilliant, he got Hillary to admit that her emails did contain information that if leaked would be a matter of National Security. She told the FBI that the emails on her server didn't contain any classified info, which is obviously a lie.

It's really telling how much you Trumpets want a dictator when you're perfectly okay with finding any fucking possible way to justify a presidential candidate asking "if it was a foreign nation, do it again and target her". MAGA? More like Make America Gravely Alienated.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50797561]It's really telling how much you Trumpets want a dictator when you're perfectly okay with finding any fucking possible way to justify a presidential candidate asking "if it was a foreign nation, do it again and target her". MAGA? More like Make America Gravely Alienated.[/QUOTE] If I recall, one of the major tenets of Trump's ideology is isolationism. Problem is, isolationism just doesn't work anymore. It's utterly impossible in the Information Age. It's a bygone relic of the early 20th century, and it will likely never be relevant again.

Honestly the only saving grace a trump victory would have is that he'd end up being the last republican president we'd be having for a looong time.

[QUOTE=Kyle902;50797619]Honestly the only saving grace a trump victory would have is that he'd end up being the last republican president we'd be having for a looong time.[/QUOTE] He'd honestly be the last president period. Trumps main plan is to default on the US debt. The US won't survive it in the shape and form it's currently in. People like Peter Thiel are going to use that chaos to take the reigns of governance because in his own words "Democracy and freedom are incompatible".

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50797653]He'd honestly be the last president period. Trumps main plan is to default on the US debt. The US won't survive it in the shape and form it's currently in. People like Peter Thiel are going to use that chaos to take the reigns of governance because in his own words "Democracy and freedom are incompatible".[/QUOTE] Don't fucking believe on what he says anymore, One he still fucking outsources his Campaign Merchandise to Asia, And then we just caught him doing this, [URL="http://http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/donald-trump-florida-clubs-hiring-foreign-workers-article-1.2729433"]http://http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/donald-trump-florida-clubs-hiring-foreign-workers-article-1.2729433[/URL] [editline]29th July 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=OmniConsUme;50797693]Don't fucking believe on what he says anymore, One he still fucking outsources his Campaign Merchandise to Asia, And then we just caught him doing this, [URL="http://http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/donald-trump-florida-clubs-hiring-foreign-workers-article-1.2729433"]http://http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/donald-trump-florida-clubs-hiring-foreign-workers-article-1.2729433[/URL][/QUOTE] Edit: By the way, the DCCC and Clinton Campaign itself just got Hacked today. [URL="http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/house-races/289773-dccc-confirms-it-was-hacked"]http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/house-races/289773-dccc-confirms-it-was-hacked[/URL]

[QUOTE=Raidyr;50784061]Why is it that every time Trump does or says something monumentally stupid (in this case, essentially endorsing a criminal action) people always go "B-b-but Hillary!" If Clinton drowned puppies by the basketload it still wouldn't be right for the Republican nominee for president to say this.[/QUOTE] sure, but it feels like trump drowns some puppies and the world is outraged, meanwhile hillary clinton is drinking some tea on the porch of her puppy extermination factory being interviewed by the press about how she will convince Bernie sanders supporters to "join the fold" Its just not fucking consistent... Trump is a vile motherfucker that id love to punch in the face some day for what he says, but with hillary its not what she says, its what she does is so immensely more vile and wrong and goes against anything even remotely based on the values the country is built on... and she does it behind the curtain and still gets caught with... but people brush it away because trump said some shit even though he never 'really' did anything besides some borderline immoral trading and scamming...

[QUOTE=Blizzerd;50797714]sure, but it feels like trump drowns some puppies and the world is outraged, meanwhile hillary clinton is drinking some tea on the porch of her puppy extermination factory being interviewed by the press about how she will convince Bernie sanders supporters to "join the fold" Its just not fucking consistent... Trump is a vile motherfucker that id love to punch in the face some day for what he says, but with hillary its not what she says, its what she does is so immensely more vile and wrong and goes against anything even remotely based on the values the country is built on... and she does it behind the curtain and still gets caught with... but people brush it away because trump said some shit even though he never 'really' did anything besides some borderline immoral trading and scamming...[/QUOTE] Dude You're literally imagining a fucking fake, fictious, non existant propaganda piece of who Hilary is. You have no idea what you're talking about, you've literally drunk the kool aid up to your eye balls and you've lost you ability to critically question the things you're holding so fucking dear and near to yourself. Can you name things she's actually done that are worse than what Trumps done and called for? No, you can't, but you think you can, so you're instantly dead set sure that Trump is a better choice even though he's called for things that will hurt you, like defaulting on the american debt and a tax plan that sucks his dick through the glory hole and makes sure you, and all the middle class people like yourself get fucked for generations to come. He'll put justices on the SCOTUS that will last for longer than the remainder of his life that will negatively impact every aspect of life for the majority of americans who aren't super neo cons.

[QUOTE]americans who aren't super neo cons.[/QUOTE] Don't drag neocons into this. They almost all loathe Trump, and so do I. Trump represents an outgrowth of the paleocons, the arch enemy of the neocons.

[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;50797820]Don't drag neocons into this. They almost all loathe Trump, and so do I. Trump represents an outgrowth of the paleocons, the arch enemy of the neocons.[/QUOTE] Sorry, I used the wrong term, that's the one I was looking for.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50797750]Dude You're literally imagining a fucking fake, fictious, non existant propaganda piece of who Hilary is. You have no idea what you're talking about, you've literally drunk the kool aid up to your eye balls and you've lost you ability to critically question the things you're holding so fucking dear and near to yourself. [B]Can you name things she's actually done that are worse than what Trumps done and called for[/B]? No, you can't, but you think you can, so you're instantly dead set sure that Trump is a better choice even though he's called for things that will hurt you, like defaulting on the american debt and a tax plan that sucks his dick through the glory hole and makes sure you, and all the middle class people like yourself get fucked for generations to come. He'll put justices on the SCOTUS that will last for longer than the remainder of his life that will negatively impact every aspect of life for the majority of americans who aren't super neo cons.[/QUOTE] Chinagate, Travelgate, Whitewater scandal, Filegate Scandal, Lootergate (for a laugh and to show what kind of person she is), The Ponzi Scheme scandal, Political Favor Scandal (the Norman Yung Yuen Hsu one, had to google his name), the many Clinton foundation money laundering scandals. Saudi Arabia campaign funds scandal, etc... Ive talked enough about all the recent powergrabs, email scandals and the reveal of blatant traitorous acts, political henchmen placings in the democratic party and especially the fraud in the democratic primary, so named some oldies from the top of my head. Some of those (first 2) involve mostly Bill, but all of those have at least partially Hillary included, if not i refrained from naming them. again, that's just from the top of my head, the clinton family is NOTORIOUS for being rifle with political intrigue and corruptness... they did not make their X billion value through Bills bookdeals after all, and getting invited to Arabic princes marriages and sit next to the family just as a secretary of state of a foreign nation is not really commonplace... Perhaps you are just too young to remember all this, some of these are more then 4 years ago after all, and it seems like you are only really paying attention to USA politics recently. Its a popular myth that frank underwood, the tv character is supposed to be based on the worst sides of both Bill and Hillary Clinton on the political battlefield. Hes not, but anyone familiar with all 3 involved will see the source of that myth.

[QUOTE=Blizzerd;50797866]Chinagate, Travelgate, Whitewater scandal, Filegate Scandal, Lootergate (for a laugh and to show what kind of person she is), The Ponzi Scheme scandal, Political Favor Scandal (the Norman Yung Yuen Hsu one, had to google his name), the many Clinton foundation money laundering scandals. Saudi Arabia campaign funds scandal, etc... Ive talked enough about all the recent powergrabs, email scandals and the reveal of blatant traitorous acts, political henchmen placings in the democratic party and especially the fraud in the democratic primary, so named some oldies from the top of my head. Some of those (first 2) involve mostly Bill, but all of those have at least partially Hillary included, if not i refrained from naming them. again, that's just from the top of my head, the clinton family is NOTORIOUS for being rifle with political intrigue and corruptness... they did not make their X billion value through Bills bookdeals after all, and getting invited to Arabic princes marriages and sit next to the family just as a secretary of state of a foreign nation is not really commonplace... Perhaps you are just too young to remember all this, some of these are more then 4 years ago after all, and it seems like you are only really paying attention to USA politics recently. Its a popular myth that frank underwood, the tv character is supposed to be based on the worst sides of both Bill and Hillary Clinton on the political battlefield. Hes not, but anyone familiar with all 3 involved will see the source of that myth.[/QUOTE] Those do not seem worse than 1) defaulting on the debt 2) BUilding a 40 billion dollar wall on the US's dime 3) banning muslims, french, and germans 4) tarrifs 5) DEFAULTING ON THE FUCKING DEBT. Those are all his ideas, and you're voting for them. I understand what Clinton has done, I also understand the witch hunt that has been out for her for the last 8 years. Now, you may not know this as you may be too young to remember it, but the Republicans have had a boner for going after her for well over 10 years. You seem to have only just got into US politics so you might not be aware of how far back the history of absolutely anti partisan bullshit goes back.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50797921]Those do not seem worse than 1) defaulting on the debt 2) BUilding a 40 billion dollar wall on the US's dime 3) banning muslims, french, and germans 4) tarrifs 5) DEFAULTING ON THE FUCKING DEBT. Those are all his ideas, and you're voting for them. I understand what Clinton has done, I also understand the witch hunt that has been out for her for the last 8 years. Now, you may not know this as you may be too young to remember it, but the Republicans have had a boner for going after her for well over 10 years. You seem to have only just got into US politics so you might not be aware of how far back the history of absolutely anti partisan bullshit goes back.[/QUOTE] If you're so concerned with fairness (as evidenced by your views on the Democratic Primary) and people "having boners" for others then why are you still saying Trump will be a dictator? How does he even swing that to happen? Half of these extraordinary claims of a Trump presidency are fear mongering by Democrats and their supporters (It also pisses me off when the GOP fear mongers). We have posters thinking their girlfriends are going to be attacked in the streets because Brexit(?) had an increase in mostly verbal attacks and a few instances of physical violence, which is abhorrent but nothing close to being indicative of the picture painted in threads like this. People are scrambling around like frightened rabbits because they're getting told something will happen and they either eat it up willingly or are too ignorant to bother checking the facts and coming to their own conclusions. Don't even start thinking I support Trump either. I don't want him any more than even the most hardcore lefty, mostly because he will kill any chance of the GOP becoming respectable again in addition to his moronic proposals, but I came to that conclusion myself without tuning into places that give one side of the story. Is it that bad I want some consistency? You should be eviscerating the sources I posted earlier for bad journalism after you went nuts about tamer things when they concerned Bernie.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50797921]Those do not seem worse than 1) defaulting on the debt 2) BUilding a 40 billion dollar wall on the US's dime 3) banning muslims, french, and germans 4) tarrifs 5) DEFAULTING ON THE FUCKING DEBT. Those are all his ideas, and you're voting for them. I understand what Clinton has done, I also understand the witch hunt that has been out for her for the last 8 years. Now, you may not know this as you may be too young to remember it, but the Republicans have had a boner for going after her for well over 10 years. You seem to have only just got into US politics so you might not be aware of how far back the history of absolutely anti partisan bullshit goes back.[/QUOTE] 1: Defaulting is a valid option considered for over 20 years now... is it the best way to fix the problem once and for all? hmmm, i dont think so but it has been considered by many politicians before him, just never out loud... also this does not compare to selling military secrets concerning ICBM technology to china for campaign contributions. 2: The worst that can happen is that it costs a lot of money but most of it goes to the people that build and maintain it, probably a better way to boost the local economies then a bank bailout... but still, i agree its not going to fix anything he wants to fix with it. its a dumb policy but i dont really see the harm either other then restricting immigration. Its also not as bad as selling public office seats to the highest bidder, or even sacking multiple government employees for the sole reason so you can sell their seats to whoever bids most or what location you can use a political minion in. And when they sue you, you just buy em off with a fraction of the money you made in selling their seats in the first place. 3: You might think that is extreme, but when comparing the US travel filters i feel this is just more of the same... as an example for a holiday trip i was escorting 6 prostitutes into the USA, every paper was in order but we were pulled out of line and interviewed, we were all denied access to the USA because of the occupation of the girls even though it is COMPLETELY legal in holland, our departure port and they were honest and open about it... and it was a vacation at a family resort. Its also not as bad as moving out white house furniture to redecorate your own house, including the desk some of the first presidents after the white house burned down sat at, or a multi thousand dollar furniture set belonging to the interior department, which the Clintons had tried to claim as a gift before being forced to return it under pressure and outrage. Also a literal ton of pure silverware, both valuable in silver AND antiques... 4: The us is already riddled with tarrifs and economic protectionism, but on this point i actually agree with him... the way to keep certain high quality manufacturing jobs is by protecting yourself from super cheap labour and slave labour... tarrifs are not a one size fits all solution, but they can be in a strong economic plan to move some better manufacturing jobs back. People seem to constantly claim they want high tech jobs and not manufacturing or whatever, but the point is that if the bottom classes dont have jobs that allow them to rise above their starting class they will just get stuck there and grow bitter... loads of people already have no more chance at an American dream because of this. Thats also not as bad as selling political pardons for clinton foundation donations hours before Bill would be impeached. Some would be pardons about political scandals, but also just plain old corruption and fraud charges. Also one charge for treason although it was pardoned before a trial was concluded. Most of hilarities closest personal attache involved in scandals also got pardons through these last hour pushes, and arguably its the reason the clinton political machine is still as strong as it is. 5: again, see point 1

[QUOTE=benwaddi;50798098]Half of these extraordinary claims of a Trump presidency are fear mongering by Democrats and their supporters[/QUOTE] It hardly seems like fear mongering when he unabashedly bases his entire campaign off them.