Did you just describe a debt default as a valid option. Please.
[QUOTE=Blizzerd;50798195]1: Defaulting is a valid option considered for over 20 years now... is it the best way to fix the problem once and for all? hmmm, i dont think so but it has been considered by many politicians before him, just never out loud... also this does not compare to selling military secrets concerning ICBM technology to china for campaign contributions.
2: The worst that can happen is that it costs a lot of money but most of it goes to the people that build and maintain it, probably a better way to boost the local economies then a bank bailout... but still, i agree its not going to fix anything he wants to fix with it. its a dumb policy but i dont really see the harm either other then restricting immigration. Its also not as bad as selling public office seats to the highest bidder, or even sacking multiple government employees for the sole reason so you can sell their seats to whoever bids most or what location you can use a political minion in. And when they sue you, you just buy em off with a fraction of the money you made in selling their seats in the first place.
3: You might think that is extreme, but when comparing the US travel filters i feel this is just more of the same... as an example for a holiday trip i was escorting 6 prostitutes into the USA, every paper was in order but we were pulled out of line and interviewed, we were all denied access to the USA because of the occupation of the girls even though it is COMPLETELY legal in holland, our departure port and they were honest and open about it... and it was a vacation at a family resort.
Its also not as bad as moving out white house furniture to redecorate your own house, including the desk some of the first presidents after the white house burned down sat at, or a multi thousand dollar furniture set belonging to the interior department, which the Clintons had tried to claim as a gift before being forced to return it under pressure and outrage.
Also a literal ton of pure silverware, both valuable in silver AND antiques...
4: The us is already riddled with tarrifs and economic protectionism, but on this point i actually agree with him... the way to keep certain high quality manufacturing jobs is by protecting yourself from super cheap labour and slave labour... tarrifs are not a one size fits all solution, but they can be in a strong economic plan to move some better manufacturing jobs back.
People seem to constantly claim they want high tech jobs and not manufacturing or whatever, but the point is that if the bottom classes dont have jobs that allow them to rise above their starting class they will just get stuck there and grow bitter... loads of people already have no more chance at an American dream because of this. Thats also not as bad as selling political pardons for clinton foundation donations hours before Bill would be impeached. Some would be pardons about political scandals, but also just plain old corruption and fraud charges. Also one charge for treason although it was pardoned before a trial was concluded. Most of hilarities closest personal attache involved in scandals also got pardons through these last hour pushes, and arguably its the reason the clinton political machine is still as strong as it is.
5: again, see point 1[/QUOTE]
Honestly, keep talking.
The more you do, the more I know you don't know what you're talking about. Write huge paragraphs, please do, the saddest part is they're pretty much vapid paragraphs.
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[QUOTE=benwaddi;50798098]If you're so concerned with fairness (as evidenced by your views on the Democratic Primary) and people "having boners" for others then why are you still saying Trump will be a dictator?
How does he even swing that to happen? Half of these extraordinary claims of a Trump presidency are fear mongering by Democrats and their supporters (It also pisses me off when the GOP fear mongers). We have posters thinking their girlfriends are going to be attacked in the streets because Brexit(?) had an increase in mostly verbal attacks and a few instances of physical violence, which is abhorrent but nothing close to being indicative of the picture painted in threads like this.
People are scrambling around like frightened rabbits because they're getting told something will happen and they either eat it up willingly or are too ignorant to bother checking the facts and coming to their own conclusions.
Don't even start thinking I support Trump either. I don't want him any more than even the most hardcore lefty, mostly because he will kill any chance of the GOP becoming respectable again in addition to his moronic proposals, but I came to that conclusion myself without tuning into places that give one side of the story. Is it that bad I want some consistency? You should be eviscerating the sources I posted earlier for bad journalism after you went nuts about tamer things when they concerned Bernie.[/QUOTE]
I want to rail about how terrible the DNC is, but there's frankly, something far more pressing.
And that's the fact that huge swathes of the population see an arrogant self interested self aggrandizing human turd as their saviour
He will matter of factly make the world a much worse place, the president isn't just a figure head, and they're not a dictator, but they have enough power to be dangerous.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50798334]Honestly, keep talking.
The more you do, the more I know you don't know what you're talking about. Write huge paragraphs, please do, the saddest part is they're pretty much vapid paragraphs.[/QUOTE]
Whatever you say, champ... are you voting eligible though?
[QUOTE=Blizzerd;50798345]Whatever you say, champ... are you voting eligible though?[/QUOTE]
I'm 24. Yes. I have voted in 2 different elections in my own country, and I would vote in the US if I was eligible.
You're the one saying a default is a valid option. it is not.
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I mean really, you're just a fucking well of horrible insults, aren't you? You can't deal with my opinion, so you insult me saying "You're too canadian to be allowed to talk here" and now you're coming at me with some age thing.
How insecure are you?
[QUOTE=Blizzerd;50798195]1: Defaulting is a valid option considered for over 20 years now... is it the best way to fix the problem once and for all? hmmm, i dont think so but it has been considered by many politicians before him, just never out loud... also this does not compare to selling military secrets concerning ICBM technology to china for campaign contributions.[/QUOTE]
defaulting on her debt would destroy the credit rating of the USA and make it much harder (if not impossible) for the government to raise finances necessary for the functioning of the state.
a default would mean basically economic disaster. it would mean civil servants going unpaid while social security, medicare, etc are short of funds. imagine how pissed all of the people in fire departments, police stations, the judges, armies, navies, coastguards, airforce, scientific institutions, etc would be when it turns out they have to be paid in arrears or not at all
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;50798379]defaulting on her debt would destroy the credit rating of the USA and make it much harder (if not impossible) for the government to raise finances necessary for the functioning of the state.
a default would mean basically economic disaster. it would mean civil servants going unpaid while social security, medicare, etc are short of funds. imagine how pissed all of the people in fire departments, police stations, the judges, armies, navies, coastguards, airforce, scientific institutions, etc would be when it turns out they have to be paid in arrears or not at all[/QUOTE]
I know, yet its still been debated for over 20 years to just "bite the bullet"
Not saying its a good idea, just that trump did not pull this one out of his ass, some economists actually believe this to be a sensible thing in the long run... a sort of "phased default" with debt renegotiation.
Im not going to pretend to know enough about economics to rule on it, but it seems ludicrous to me.
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[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50798368]I'm 24. Yes. I have voted in 2 different elections in my own country, and I would vote in the US if I was eligible.
You're the one saying a default is a valid option. it is not.
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I mean really, you're just a fucking well of horrible insults, aren't you? You can't deal with my opinion, so you insult me saying "You're too canadian to be allowed to talk here" and now you're coming at me with some age thing.
How insecure are you?[/QUOTE]
I never said you were too Canadian, i actually did not really intend to insult you, just put your opinion into context... as an opinion from a person that does not have to live with the consequences of a Hillary presidency... also i kind of feel you are blaming me of stuff you yourself are far more guilty of. Personal attacks have been in basically every post you posted concerning trump. and not a single post of yours is substantially adressing anything i raised.
[QUOTE=Blizzerd;50798345]Whatever you say, champ... are you voting eligible though?[/QUOTE]
Are you going to be voting in the US election, my Belgian whore-smuggling friend?
[QUOTE=Blizzerd;50798520]I know, yet its still been debated for over 20 years to just "bite the bullet"
Not saying its a good idea, just that trump did not pull this one out of his ass, some economists actually believe this to be a sensible thing in the long run... a sort of "phased default" with debt renegotiation.
Im not going to pretend to know enough about economics to rule on it, but it seems ludicrous to me.
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I never said you were too Canadian, i actually did not really intend to insult you, just put your opinion into context... as an opinion from a person that does not have to live with the consequences of a Hillary presidency... also i kind of feel you are blaming me of stuff you yourself are far more guilty of. Personal attacks have been in basically every post you posted concerning trump. and not a single post of yours is substantially adressing anything i raised.[/QUOTE]
Uh,
I have to live with the consequences of either presidency.
And I don't get a say in it either way.
So what are you even fucking talking about then?
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