The Hemperor, Jack Herer has died. - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Mingebox;21373580]Looks like all his efforts to legalize marijuana have gone to pot. :smugdog:[/QUOTE] Wonder if they'll bury him [I]high[/I] up in the clouds.

Did he die of old age or chronic illness?

what did he die of, [b]chronic[/b] hepatitis? :smug:

Thread turned into a shitstorm before they made it halfway through Page 1. Not a record, but still impressive nonetheless. :munch:

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;21388320]I love how hard you try and argue this, but all you ever do is say stupid shit that makes no sense. The current mexican drug war has killed at least 22,000 people. Hint: [b]WAR ON DRUGS[/b]. That's what's killing people.[/QUOTE] Erm nope, the war between gangs over drugs is what's killing people. The war over legal drugs.

And why do you think the gangs fight? Because they want to? No, having some of your dealers shot up is for bad business. They have to fight because what they are doing is illegal, if they get in trouble they can't call the cops. Gangs are a business and businesses are out to make money.

One less stoner. :smug:

[QUOTE=Jacklus;21436718]And why do you think the gangs fight? Because they want to? No, having some of your dealers shot up is for bad business. They have to fight because what they are doing is illegal, if they get in trouble they can't call the cops. Gangs are a business and businesses are out to make money.[/QUOTE] So you are suggesting that we legalise drug smuggling

[QUOTE=lazyguy;21438338]So you are suggesting that we legalise drug smuggling[/QUOTE] Legalize drugs, all of them. Let people have some fucking freedom in their lives, arrest those who start doing dumb shit to fuel their habit, and provide rehab for addicts. Sell drugs at clinics ran by the government, profits go to the rehab centers.

[QUOTE=rooky;21373542][URL]http://www.salem-news.com/articles/april152010/jack_herer_died.php[/URL] Damn, man down! One of the most influential figures in the cannabis movement has just passed away. I think we should all pay tribute to this great man who informed the world about the truths of cannabis use, both medically and industrially. Since his writing of the book, "The Emperor Wears No Clothes", he has been a key figure in the legalise cannabis movement, and we just lost him. [IMG]http://awesomeentertainmentla.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/the_emperor.191145930.jpg[/IMG] Rest in Peace Jack, you will be missed. :([/QUOTE] Irony ala Deqou.

[QUOTE=Strongbad;21438615]Irony ala Deqou.[/QUOTE] How is this ironic?

[QUOTE=lazyguy;21438338]So you are suggesting that we legalise drug smuggling[/QUOTE] Uhhh, smuggling wouldn't be necessary if drugs were legal, would it? The point he's trying to make is that legalizing certain drugs would severely cripple drug-related criminalactivity because a lot of producers and dealers simply wouldn't be needed anymore. Since illegal activities would no longer need to occur regarding these certain drugs, bad things wouldn't happen as often because of them.

[QUOTE=Kybalt;21438390]Legalize drugs, all of them. Let people have some fucking freedom in their lives, arrest those who start doing dumb shit to fuel their habit, and provide rehab for addicts. Sell drugs at clinics ran by the government, profits go to the rehab centers.[/QUOTE] The Government selling heroin. You are a fucking crazy bastard. [editline]04:26AM[/editline] [QUOTE=gnome;21439427]Uhhh, smuggling wouldn't be necessary if drugs were legal, would it? The point he's trying to make is that legalizing certain drugs would severely cripple drug-related criminalactivity because a lot of producers and dealers simply wouldn't be needed anymore. Since illegal activities would no longer need to occur regarding these certain drugs, bad things wouldn't happen as often because of them.[/QUOTE] Drugs ARE legal in Mexico. That's my fucking point.

[QUOTE=lazyguy;21439726]The Government selling heroin. You are a fucking crazy bastard. [editline]04:26AM[/editline] Drugs ARE legal in Mexico. That's my fucking point.[/QUOTE] Heroin was legal and regulated once. They made it illegal because it became a very easy drug to make OUTSIDE of pharmaceuticals. A war against drugs, similar to the one in the United States is being waged down there. If you had a brain, or the ability to read, you would have read this the first time around. The fact is, the war on drugs of an illegal nature has killed, ruined, and irrevocably changed peoples lives for the worse. Please, explain to me why the freedom to choose what drugs go in your body? You choose what food does, and food contains "drugs". You drink alcohol, and alcohol is one of the worst drugs in the world in term of actual body damage(it is in fact close to much "stronger" and more illegal drugs are in terms of damage to the body) and you can choose to smoke. Why is it not ok to choose what goes in your body based on an arbitrary rule? I am 100% sure that you have never experienced any substance, that you have no clue what you're talking about. I'm also 100% sure you don't understand the arguments that are even being presented to you. You seem to believe that if drugs were legalized, that everyone everywhere would be doing them all the time, we've proved that this is a fallacy because as you can see, alcohol is not abused like that, and it was in the same state drugs are in now. So that's out of the way. You seem to think that "dealers" and garage producers of drugs would be the primary source of drugs, which is again, total bullshit. The pharmaceuticals, large and small, would step in and find a market. Where there is demand, they will supply. Money and profit is all that matters. Tell me, why do I not have a right to what goes in and out of my body? Do withdrawls automatically make me want to go steal and kill to fuel my habbit? No. Drugs in general don't. I've been down that route, and I've never done anything illegal to fuel my drug use. Would you imprison anyone who does a drug like that simply because of the drugs status and you believe, ignorantly, that all people who use drugs will commit a crime? Obviously, you do, however if you believe that, why not start supporting future crime groups which "predict" where crime occurs and what crime will occur? You're ignorant and you have no argument that stands ANY criticism. You just don't agree, and that's fine. At a personal level anyways, politically, why do you WANT to stand in the way of freedoms?

So because it happened once it should happen again? Great, I'm going to go hang that kid I saw nicking a loaf of bread.

[QUOTE=lazyguy;21440296]So because it happened once it should happen again? Great, I'm going to go hang that kid I saw nicking a loaf of bread.[/QUOTE] wow, are you literally fucking retarded? This has NOTHING to do with my argument, and it's clear you really can't even TRY and argue coherently. Hell, by saying that, you're standing on my side of the argument, basically, you just said because prohibition happened, we should let it happen again? No, we really shouldn't. It's quite clear that prohibition, or a "war on drugs" which is literally just a fucking euphemism for prohibition DOES NOT WORK, HAS NEVER WORKED, CAN NOT EVER WORK.

[QUOTE=lazyguy;21384775]All drugs should be legalised they are in Mexico and there's no drug deaths there.[/QUOTE] Mexico slightly decriminalized drugs, to no effect, because the only places to get those drugs are still from the cartels. I also wonder how much of the Mexican drug trade exists because it's neighbouring wealthy nations citizens of 300+ million have habits that are illegal. If drugs were legal, people wouldn't be killing each other over it. You don't see people getting shot to death over tobacco or alcohol. It's also much harder for minors to get the legal shit than the illegal shit (when I was a kid I never drank liquor, I just filled my nose with coke). Here's what your drug war brings you. Militarized police kicking in the wrong address, killing senior citizens because an anonymous informant gave them a random address to get them off his back. Of course, what's the price of a few lives to get those damned junkies off the street, right? [URL]http://www.cato.org/pubs/wtpapers/balko_whitepaper_2006.pdf[/URL]

Mexico has a bad infrastructure. What's new there?

[QUOTE=lazyguy;21439726]The Government selling heroin. You are a fucking crazy bastard. [/QUOTE] Just make it prohibitively expensive. That, as well as the absence of expenditure on policing it, would reciprocate the cost of treating those harmed by it.

[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;21374649]Weed is a plant, therefore you cannot overdose on it. THC, a substance in weed, is a chemical, and it can indeed be overdosed, however. On-topic, I respect this guy as a man who died, but his cause is just moronic.[/QUOTE] You're a moron, fuck you have never smoked weed have you?

[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;21374649]Weed is a plant, therefore you cannot overdose on it. THC, a substance in weed, is a chemical, and it can indeed be overdosed, however. On-topic, I respect this guy as a man who died, but his cause is just moronic.[/QUOTE] Two things: A: Weed should be leagal, only reason why it's not is to save the timber industry. B: Eat some poison ivy and see how much you can handle, I dare ya!

A: Weed =/= hemp. B: It's poison (a chemical) in the poison ivy that makes it nasty.

I`m convinced Lazyguy is either a troll, or an idiot.

[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;21374722]Let's see: He's done practically nothing in his life other than try to encourage people to burn a plant, he's written a nonsensical book, and he thinks he's a hero because he's a stoner.[/QUOTE] Life win.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;21449971]I`m convinced Lazyguy is either a troll, or an idiot.[/QUOTE] If in doubt, call the guy a troll.

[QUOTE=lazyguy;21452993]If in doubt, call the guy a troll.[/QUOTE] Your the one that ignores arguments and just insists your right with no real thought process or argument.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;21454005]Your the one that ignores arguments and just insists your right with no real thought process or argument.[/QUOTE] He proved his ignorance ages ago man. Don't try to argue with him. Like comparing the war on drugs with the legality situation in the US. Most of those cartels are fighting over who will sell drugs IN the US. They are actively warring with the cartels which causes the deaths of people obviously. If the drugs were legal, there would be no cartels to fight and there would be no drug war. The fact that lazyguy cannot come up with this easy conclusion, is proof that he is, in fact, an idiot.

R.I.P Jack herer :350: