Newtown 7th Grader Starts Movement To Rid America Of Violent Video Games
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[QUOTE=Suttles;38931194][IMG]http://puu.sh/1DQuA[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Yo dawg come chill with us cool kids
It's not violent video games we need to get rid of, it's the over glorification of murder and war and stuff like that
[editline]22nd December 2012[/editline]
(and video games are, for the most part, not the biggest offenders.)
[QUOTE=ewitwins;38931211]What you guys who are joking and mocking this kid don't seem to realize, is that this is simply a knee-jerk reaction from a kid who's witnessed basically the destruction of the way his community once was. He's trying to find [I]some[/I] way to help fix an extremely complicated situation in the only way he can think of. Regardless of whether it's wrong or not, he probably felt completely helpless seeing all of these grieving people and not being able to do anything. Someone just needs to point him in the right direction, and away from something that is completely fruitless.[/QUOTE]
Having good intentions doesn't mean he isn't stupid as fuck.
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“We hope people will drop off … and destroy them,” said Jackson Mittleman, Goldstein’s brother.[/QUOTE]
Nothing like a good old book bur- I mean, video game burning.
[QUOTE]“All of it is kill, just kill as many people as you can without dying,” Max Goldstein said.[/QUOTE]
So should we punish actors as well for acting these scenes in movies as well?
you should change the headline to
"parents use child as figurehead and manipulate him into manipulating the public"
this is disgusting. do i really need to post that penn and teller bullshit episode about video games again?
[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;38930942]Reminds me of the [url=http://www.nocussing.com/]No Cussing Club™[/url][/QUOTE]
woah feels like I just stepped back into the 90's web design
Minesweeper is oh-too suspenseful; whenever I step on tile floor, I flashback to all the missed mines.
I am haunted forever.
Something tells me there's a bit of parent puppeteering in this
Videogames: the ultimate scapegoat when something goes wrong somewhere.
[QUOTE=Melkor;38931254]Having good intentions doesn't mean he isn't stupid as fuck.[/QUOTE]
Maybe if you'd get off your high horse and think about how you would evaluate the situation if you were in his shoes if you were his age, but you probably are so who knows.
How would you suggest someone approach him to prevent him from wasting his time?
Because these things never happened before videogames, and if you succeed by some miracle, will certainly never happen again.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06Lw7xa6lHU[/media]
Penn Jillette in this has pretty much my views on it. Blaming media is a pointless redirection of blame. People bring it up every time something like this happens and it's always wrong.
Around 5:30 is when they bring up media, though it's also good to hear Penn slam that girl for trying to blame various mental disorders earlier in the video.
a kid of all people
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;38931239]It's not violent video games we need to get rid of, it's the over glorification of murder and war and stuff like that
[editline]22nd December 2012[/editline]
(and video games are, for the most part, not the biggest offenders.)[/QUOTE]
lol yeah right, like that'll ever happen
you've got more of a chance of getting rid of the video games
[i]ya damn long haired commie bastard[/i]
Yeah child, also ban war movies and action movies. I mean there are guns in them aren't there?
Oh and since we're there let's ban all literature that deals with war.
I mean, that might inspire somebody to go rampage somewhere.
[QUOTE=ewitwins;38931358]Maybe if you'd get off your high horse and think about how you would evaluate the situation if you were in his shoes if you were his age, but you probably are so who knows.[/quote] Whiteknight much?
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How would you suggest someone approach him to prevent him from wasting his time?[/QUOTE]
Oh Idunno...how about letting him know that violent videogames do not cause people to do things like this? Showing him studies that say as much? Coaxing him into doing some research into the [i]actual[/i] reasons people do these things?
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[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06Lw7xa6lHU[/media]
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Okay. i have aspergers, and one of my main passtimes is sitting around playing first person shooters with my friends.
im going to be honest, what that woman said was fairly hurtful.
[QUOTE=power-mad;38931407]Because these things never happened before videogames, and if you succeed by some miracle, will certainly never happen again.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06Lw7xa6lHU[/media]
Penn Jillette in this has pretty much my views on it. Blaming media is a pointless redirection of blame. People bring it up every time something like this happens and it's always wrong.
Around 5:30 is when they bring up media, though it's also good to hear Penn slam that girl for trying to blame various mental disorders earlier in the video.[/QUOTE]
thanks for sharing that. i really wanted to hear what penn had to say about this fuckin mess.
but i fucking hate how every single thing the women say are basically sound bytes that cue for applause at the end because if you don't agree you're a cunt.
Idiot,call the troops
[QUOTE=TestECull;38931512]Whiteknight much?
Oh Idunno...how about letting him know that violent videogames do not cause people to do things like this? Showing him studies that say as much? Coaxing him into doing some research into the [i]actual[/i] reasons people do these things?[/QUOTE]
Well there you go, that's all anyone needs to do. And for fuck's sake that knight white bullshit hasn't existed on this site for over two years.
my god penn got really fucking pissed off at them for interrupting him and just talked straight through that cunt like a train.
seriously they interrupted him at least 30 times and he took it like a gentleman. then he calmly but assertively made his point by talking over the blabbermouths. plus they're using these backwards assed remarks like "OH SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT NOW TEACHERS SHOULD CARRY GUNS" subject flipping bullshit.
i bet penn is a real bro.
I always find it hilarious when news writers describe video games.
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Each one is what they call a “first-person shooter,” a game in which the player looks at a digital landscape through the sights of a weapon and uses it on enemies.
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I just found that really funny.
the kid's not even 18, he shouldn't be playing the games in the first place.
[QUOTE=ewitwins;38931358]Maybe if you'd get off your high horse and think about how you would evaluate the situation if you were in his shoes if you were his age, but you probably are so who knows.
How would you suggest someone approach him to prevent him from wasting his time?[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't be in his shoes because I wasn't that stupid when I was in 7th grade, and neither was anyone else I knew. I shouldn't have to explain this shit to him because at his age he should be able to figure it out by himself. But you're acting like he's a toddler who can't make logical assertions and needs to be told what to do.
*sigh*
Predatory mammals take joy in the hunt. Hook electrodes up to the brain of a dog or cat and you will find that they enjoy hunting. Ever wonder why your cat kills something just to fuck around with the corpse for a while and never bother to eat it? Because it is amusing to the cat.
The predator portion of the brain is what is amused whenever you play a violent video game. It isn't simply an adrenaline rush, people [I]enjoy[/I] being a predator.
You simply can't fight chemistry, kiddo.
[QUOTE=GunFox;38931682]*sigh*
Predatory mammals take joy in the hunt. Hook electrodes up to the brain of a dog or cat and you will find that they enjoy hunting. Ever wonder why your cat kills something just to fuck around with the corpse for a while and never bother to eat it? Because it is amusing to the cat.
The predator portion of the brain is what is amused whenever you play a violent video game. It isn't simply an adrenaline rush, people [I]enjoy[/I] being a predator.
You simply can't fight chemistry, kiddo.[/QUOTE]
This sounds dangerously like evolutionary psychology BS
do you have any sources to back that up
[QUOTE=GunFox;38931682]*sigh*
Predatory mammals take joy in the hunt. Hook electrodes up to the brain of a dog or cat and you will find that they enjoy hunting. Ever wonder why your cat kills something just to fuck around with the corpse for a while and never bother to eat it? Because it is amusing to the cat.
The predator portion of the brain is what is amused whenever you play a violent video game. It isn't simply an adrenaline rush, people [I]enjoy[/I] being a predator.
You simply can't fight chemistry, kiddo.[/QUOTE]
k gunfox, i know you are trying your best, but please stop destroying psychology and neuroscience with posts like these.
predatory mammals take "joy in the hunt" because they have reward centers which gives them a reward for finding food, a necessary part of being an animal. a dog or a cat understands eating food as a positive thing, thus it learns behavior accordingly.
there's no "predator portion" of the brain. idk which anatomy class youve taken.
the reason why we enjoy games or are amused by them is because they reward us when we do something, in the case of a violent videogame it's because we are violent that the game reward us. violent videogames aren't different in any way to non-violent videogames when it comes to reward and the drive to play.
the fear comes from the conception that videogames reinforce violent behavior by conditioning people to associate killing someone with a positive or rewarding thing, but i dont agree with that because killing a person in a game is 100% different in every way from killing a real person, and only mentally ill or people without the ability to understand the difference could confuse the two
yeah you cant fight chemistry, which is why its a good thing that this has 0 to do with chemistry :rolleyes:
Lets stop using videogames as a scapegoat and blame the true reason this happens; Mental health issues.
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;38931703]This sounds dangerously like evolutionary psychology BS
do you have any sources to back that up[/QUOTE]
Not really sure what part of that sounded objectionable.
Non human mammals clearly enjoy hunting as they will do so even when fed and sheltered completely.
Humans will do precisely the same thing, even on a conscious level making the decision not to eat what they kill (pricks). Even when they do elect to eat what they kill, it frequently isn't financially remotely necessary for them to do so.
I think it is fairly well established that people like to hunt.
I'm curious where you believe the disconnect in the logic to be.
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