Head of MPAA, Chris Dodd, Threatens Politicians Who Refuse to be Bought by Donations. - Polidicks

[QUOTE=MarstunoM;34325538]What the fuck do you guys think Occupy is doing nationwide? Did none of you pay attention to yesterday when we were all over the country protesting at federal courthouses against CORPORATE PERSONHOOD and MONEY AS SPEECH, specifically citing Citizens United vs FEC ? This is a prime example of why. Major corporations like MPAA, headed by former politicians, can abuse the system so terribly much as to effectively buy legislation. This is also why SOPA and PIPA have been such a fight despite major resistance from the public.[/QUOTE] this is the central flaw with Occupy and the central flaw with your entire ideology. corporations don't 'abuse the system', corporations -are- the system. capitalism is about the accumulation of capital, big business is exactly the same as the state, and no amount of reform - real or imaginary - can change the natural evolutions arising from the economic system in which we live. [editline]21st January 2012[/editline] by the way, 'corporation taxing' is pretty much a misnomer

This guy shares the same second name as me. I'm sad now. :smith:

High up politicians shouldn't be allowed to use money at all. They should be forced live the life of someone with average income.

My favorite quote from Dodd is [quote]"It is an irresponsible response and a disservice to people who rely on them for information and use their services. It is also an abuse of power... when the platforms that serve as gateways to information intentionally skew the facts to incite their users in order to further their corporate interests."[/quote] The irony is off the charts.

[QUOTE=mobrockers2;34325160]No, it's blackmail.[/QUOTE] No it isn't. If they kept incriminating photos on every senator and threatened to release them if they didn't toe the line, that would be blackmailing. This would be bribery.

[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;34331527]No it isn't. If they kept incriminating photos on every senator and threatened to release them if they didn't toe the line, that would be blackmailing. This would be bribery.[/QUOTE] Nope sorry, you're wrong.

[QUOTE=purvisdavid1;34326199]You know they can go back and say "Opps we fucked up" right? That's what happened to the case of the enslaved man who belonged to a slave owner who had escaped in Free Territory. Because he was traveling with the man and technically was property, it was deemed illegal for him to leave even though they had passed through a free state/territory. This was definitely overturned after the Civil War.[/QUOTE] That was more to do with the 13th amendment than anything else.

[QUOTE=MarstunoM;34325538]What the fuck do you guys think Occupy is doing nationwide? Did none of you pay attention to yesterday when we were all over the country protesting at federal courthouses against CORPORATE PERSONHOOD and MONEY AS SPEECH, specifically citing Citizens United vs FEC ? This is a prime example of why. Major corporations like MPAA, headed by former politicians, can abuse the system so terribly much as to effectively buy legislation. This is also why SOPA and PIPA have been such a fight despite major resistance from the public. What's funny though, is that you're all going to say, "Wow, what a dumbass, it's going to backfire majorly on him." Why? What are you going to do to stop him considering it was ruled completely legal to wine and dine your senators and representatives, donate unlimited funds to their campaigns, and it not be counted as bribery? What are you going to do to stop the revolving door as retired politicians become lobbyists a mere year after retirement? It's because of how many people sit on their asses rather than stand up against this type of unacceptable, unconstitutional bullshit.[/QUOTE] The Supreme Court really needs to retract their previous position on "Donations"

[QUOTE=ExplodingGuy;34325134]It's a form of petition.[/QUOTE] no it isn't, it's bribery. petition requires endorsements, not one corporation waving around fistfuls of cash

[QUOTE=mobrockers2;34331776]Nope sorry, you're wrong.[/QUOTE] Ah yes all this convinving evidence has convinced me. You are the master convincer.

I think you guys are confusing blackmail with whitemail.

[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;34332428]Ah yes all this convinving evidence has convinced me. You are the master convincer.[/QUOTE] They were already bribed, but now, one by one, they're dropping support for sopa/pipa. The MPAA isn't happy with that so now he's threatening the politicians.

So this is how corrupt America is, right?

Chris Dodd, a disgrace to the Progressive cause. No good person should be endorsing what is effectively legalized bribery.

I am never buying anything related to the MPAA again, even if it hax virtually no effect I can at least know that I'm not supporting bastards like this.

There's a white house petition to have this guy's shit ruined for this [url]https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/investigate-chris-dodd-and-mpaa-bribery-after-he-publicly-admited-bribing-politicans-pass/DffX0YQv[/url] May have already been posted but I did search

[QUOTE=smurfy;34333706]There's a white house petition to have this guy's shit ruined for this [url]https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/investigate-chris-dodd-and-mpaa-bribery-after-he-publicly-admited-bribing-politicans-pass/DffX0YQv[/url] May have already been posted but I did search[/QUOTE] Genius, that should be it's own thread. I'd love to give some payback to them, even if it's a little

[QUOTE=smurfy;34333706]There's a white house petition to have this guy's shit ruined for this [url]https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/investigate-chris-dodd-and-mpaa-bribery-after-he-publicly-admited-bribing-politicans-pass/DffX0YQv[/url] May have already been posted but I did search[/QUOTE] Signed, although it seems like petitions never seem to accomplish anything of worth. A fleeting gesture at best.

[QUOTE=smurfy;34333706]There's a white house petition to have this guy's shit ruined for this [url]https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/investigate-chris-dodd-and-mpaa-bribery-after-he-publicly-admited-bribing-politicans-pass/DffX0YQv[/url] May have already been posted but I did search[/QUOTE] Signed

[QUOTE=smurfy;34333706]There's a white house petition to have this guy's shit ruined for this [url]https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/investigate-chris-dodd-and-mpaa-bribery-after-he-publicly-admited-bribing-politicans-pass/DffX0YQv[/url] May have already been posted but I did search[/QUOTE] i'm sure the the people being bribed by Chris Dodd just can't wait to investigate Chris Dodd for bribery.

That petition just jumped by 5 when I hit F5

If what Chris Todd is doing is called bribery, then no one is allowed to donate to any political campaign if that candidate would even unintentionally act in the interests of John Q. who sent that candidate $25.

[QUOTE=Darthveamon;34335150]If what Chris Todd is doing is called bribery, then no one is allowed to donate to any political campaign if that candidate would even unintentionally act in the interests of John Q. who sent that candidate $25.[/QUOTE] John Q isn't threatening to remove his funding if politicians don't do EXACTLY as he says.

[QUOTE=ironman17;34328013]The sheer concept of BUYING political power and influence, as opposed to earning it by proving your worth in your profession, is abhorrent. If I were a politician and some weasely oil snake tried to bribe me into supporting his unethical legislation, i'd break the little pustule's face and expose him as a puppeteering scumbag. So much corruption, and not a flamethrower in sight.[/QUOTE] You say that now but if offers you $10 million for your support what will you say then? It's always easier to say things but when you're put in the person's shoes it's a completely different story.

[QUOTE=1STrandomman;34335380]John Q isn't threatening to remove his funding if politicians don't do EXACTLY as he says.[/QUOTE] And more importantly, John Q isn't able and willing to donate sums of money equal to several times the average American's annual income to a single politician in order to sway his position toward legislation that John Q wants passed.

Do you think John Q is going to give money to politicians who do things that he doesn't like? Politicians don't exactly have a right to Dodd's money. It's his to donate as he pleases. [editline]21st January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Gmod4ever;34335424]And more importantly, John Q isn't able and willing to donate sums of money equal to several times the average American's annual income to a single politician in order to sway his position toward legislation that John Q wants passed.[/QUOTE] What he does with his money is his business. He's not exactly forcing that politician to do anything. And if you don't like it, join together in a group and donate to politicians to get them to NOT support the legislation Dodd does. To put it into perspective, by that logic it should be illegal to take a girl on a date to the nicest restaurant you can afford in the hopes that you'll keep seeing each other.

[QUOTE=Darthveamon;34335431]Do you think John Q is going to give money to politicians who do things that he doesn't like? Politicians don't exactly have a right to Dodd's money. It's his to donate as he pleases. [editline]21st January 2012[/editline] What he does with his money is his business. He's not exactly forcing that politician to do anything. And if you don't like it, join together in a group and donate to politicians to get them to NOT support the legislation Dodd does. To put it into perspective, by that logic it should be illegal to take a girl on a date to the nicest restaurant you can afford in the hopes that you'll keep seeing each other.[/QUOTE] Reducto ad absurdum. Additionally, you taking her to that restaurant isn't going to make any difference to the rest of the country. This guy paying off politicians has consequences for everyone else.

who the hell is john q

[QUOTE=1STrandomman;34335541]Reducto ad absurdum. Additionally, you taking her to that restaurant isn't going to make any difference to the rest of the country. This guy paying off politicians has consequences for everyone else.[/QUOTE] Then everyone else can choose not to vote for said politicians or donate to other politicians to vote down that legislation.

[QUOTE=joes33431;34328586]Some people only make that amount over a span of a decade. The government shouldn't regulate how much money a person should make, but rather make income taxes progressively higher for those people who do make, say, 11 million dollars per year. A combination of responsible financial practices and sensible placement of federal spending for purposes of redistribution and services both tangible (food, roads, school buildings, etc) and intangible (social security, education, etc) should get our country back on track. Too bad most politicians are in the pockets of corporations. If only we could end the bipartisan gridlock in our legislatures. Given, we'd need to make Democrats grow a pair of testicles and teach Republicans some lessons on proper manners/sensibility. Of course, the problem will fix itself eventually, if we stay on the track we're on. Soon, Democrats will be so bad at enforcing their opinion that they'll just get sucked into the Republican party. Then the conservatives will use their authoritarian social views and broken free-market policies to run this country in the ground. And once we're desperate enough there'll be someone to come dictate the nation with an iron fist. Then people will get tired of the regime and oust it with revolution. And then things will get back on track, and the process will repeat itself.[/QUOTE] It's time to get your tin foil hats everyone!