[QUOTE=JDK721;23884096]yes, they can. they can use one of their favorite tactics called fear mongering and Fox will run with it 24/7. they crippled the health care bill by doing that.
[/QUOTE]
You do realize the populace can't do shit about what happens in congress?
Even if they could, the democrats still have far more power in congress that it doesn't even matter.
[QUOTE=Meller Yeller;23884073]Like I was about to say before the other guy, the Democrats have passed plenty of things and can still do so easily.[/QUOTE]
yeah because passing major reforms is SO SIMPLE
it doesn't work like that. it took decades to finally revise health care, and even then there still isn't a public option.
[QUOTE=Meller Yeller;23884073]Face the fact that they just plain don't give two shits as long as people think they're doing something about it by saying it will be a side effect to the other junk they pass.[/QUOTE]
this isn't a fact
it's more your observation that has no substance
[QUOTE=JDK721;23884096]yes, they can. they can use one of their favorite tactics called fear mongering and Fox will run with it 24/7. they crippled the health care bill by doing that.
lol
there's something wrong with being against the Republicans? the ones that fucking have homophobic, racist, etc. views[/QUOTE]
By making such a large generalization about such an enormous group, you're about as ignorant as a homophobe or racist.
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[QUOTE=JDK721;23884135]yeah because passing major reforms is SO SIMPLE
it doesn't work like that. it took decades to finally revise health care, and even then there still isn't a public option.
this isn't a fact
it's more your observation that has no substance[/QUOTE]
Unemployment is STILL in the shitter- fact
The Democrats almost always say it will help create jobs but unemployment stays about the same or worse- fact
[QUOTE=ExplodingGuy;23884116]You do realize the populace can't do shit about what happens in congress?[/QUOTE]
you do realize that these representatives represent the people, right?
if enough people oppose something then chances are the politician will back off to save his reputation
which brings me back to the fear mongering that the Republicans used with health care that it was some huge government takeover and that socialism is evil
[QUOTE=JDK721;23884096]yes, they can. they can use one of their favorite tactics called fear mongering and Fox will run with it 24/7. they crippled the health care bill by doing that.[/QUOTE]
Yes, blame it on evil Fox News that Democrats don't support their own bills.
[QUOTE=JDK721;23884096]
lol
there's something wrong with being against the Republicans? the ones that fucking have homophobic, racist, etc. views[/QUOTE]
No there isn't anything wrong being against Republicans. It's just that you lead a blind view by calling them all racist and homophobic.
[QUOTE=ExplodingGuy;23884116]You do realize the populace can't do shit about what happens in congress?[/QUOTE]
you do realize that these representatives represent the people, right?
if enough people oppose something then chances are the politician will back off to save his reputation
which brings me back to the fear mongering that the Republicans used with health care saying that it was some huge government takeover and that socialism is evil
[editline]09:12PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Ragy;23884180]Yes, blame it on evil Fox News that Democrats don't support their own bills.[/QUOTE]
yeah because I said that at all
[QUOTE=Ragy;23884180]No there isn't anything wrong being against Republicans. It's just that you lead a blind view by calling them all racist and homophobic.[/QUOTE]
the majority of them are though, yes
[editline]09:13PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Meller Yeller;23884140]By making such a large generalization about such an enormous group, you're about as ignorant as a homophobe or racist.[/QUOTE]
not at all
those things aren't even comparable
[QUOTE=JDK721;23884182]you do realize that these representatives represent the people, right?
if enough people oppose something then chances are the politician will back off to save his reputation
which brings me back to the fear mongering that the Republicans used with health care saying that it was some huge government takeover and that socialism is evil[/QUOTE]
That's kinda how it works. The representatives represent what the people want.
[QUOTE=JDK721;23884182]you do realize that these representatives represent the people, right?
if enough people oppose something then chances are the politician will back off to save his reputation
which brings me back to the fear mongering that the Republicans used with health care saying that it was some huge government takeover and that socialism is evil[/QUOTE]
You're absolutely right that the mass media used manipulation and such and have blown things totally out of proportion since the beginning but if raising employment was really a goal of theirs, something more would have been done by now as opposed to mostly nothing.
[QUOTE=JDK721;23884182]the majority of them are though, yes[/QUOTE]
If that's what you really think, it saddens me.
[QUOTE=JDK721;23883336]ITT: two white straight christian suburban kids defending the republican idealogy[/QUOTE]
Pretty sure most people here are straight white suburban boys.
[QUOTE=Meller Yeller;23884140]Unemployment is STILL in the shitter- fact
The Democrats almost always say it will help create jobs but unemployment stays about the same or worse- fact[/QUOTE]
it's gonna take time, you know..
fixing eight years of the Republicans' mess is going to take years and years
however, it's a fact that the economy is growing. it's a slow progression, but there still is continual growth. the US is no longer in a recession, and it is unlikely that another one will occur.
[QUOTE=Ragy;23884092]A filibuster can not stop a bill from passing. Each party filibusters.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't understand lobbying
Doesn't understand paper
Doesn't understand legislation
:doh:
[QUOTE=Ragy;23884232]That's kinda how it works. The representatives represent what the people want.[/QUOTE]
so just ignore the two other lines
great
[quote]if enough people oppose something then chances are the politician will back off to save his reputation
which brings me back to the fear mongering that the Republicans used with health care saying that it was some huge government takeover and that socialism is evil[/quote]
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;23884292]Pretty sure most people here are straight white suburban boys.[/QUOTE]
I'm an Asian Spaniard born in one of New Jersey's largest cities. :colbert:
I love how Ragy just gave up on his original argument, and then manages to join an even DUMBER argument.
Wow Ragy, you're just the worst poster around, aren't you?
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[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;23884292]Pretty sure most people here are straight white suburban boys.[/QUOTE]
Surprisingly not. I'm not, neither is billam or other posters. I'm only white out of those things.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;23884390]I love how Ragy just gave up on his original argument, and then manages to join an even DUMBER argument.
Wow Ragy, you're just the worst poster around, aren't you?[/QUOTE]
Yup, Mr. every CEO and every person in a high paying job is corrupt. :downs:
[QUOTE=Ragy;23884478]Yup, Mr. every CEO and every person in a high paying job is corrupt. :downs:[/QUOTE]
he never even said that
grasp for more straws please
[QUOTE=JDK721;23884514]he never even said that
grasp for more straws please[/QUOTE]
Blind you are.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;23881198]No, of course not, but you're a naive fool if you don't think [B][I]they've[/I] (applying all)[/B] had their hands in as many politicians pockets as possible. Why wouldn't they? The only people that could stop them are the politicians, and politicians are greedy enough to give themselves raises based on nothing, so why wouldn't they take money?
It isn't that the rich are out for the poor, it's that they want more money regardless of what it really takes.[/QUOTE]
Also applying that all the rich care about is money.
[QUOTE=Ragy;23884478]Yup, Mr. every CEO and every person in a high paying job is corrupt. :downs:[/QUOTE]
Yup, Mr. every CEO and every person in a high paying job is Jesus. :downs:
see how your argument bears no relevance to fact or sense and can be easily turned upon you
yeah
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[QUOTE=Ragy;23884552]Blind you are.[/QUOTE]
The word is implying, and no it doesn't. "They've" does not specifically refer to any more than a simple majority, if that.
[editline]01:33AM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Ragy;23884552]Also applying that all the rich care about is money.[/QUOTE]
fucking. implying.
With an i.
[QUOTE=Ragy;23884552]Blind you are.
Also applying that all the rich care about is money.[/QUOTE]
lol
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;23884554]Yup, Mr. every CEO and every person in a high paying job is Jesus. :downs:
see how your argument bears no relevance to fact or sense and can be easily turned upon you
yeah
[editline]01:32AM[/editline]
The word is implying, and no it doesn't. "They've" does not specifically refer to any more than a simple majority, if that.[/QUOTE]
No. I first implied that all the rich are not corrupt. He then replied [I]they[/I] (implying the rich) have all had their hands in political pockets.
You can't read either, as I never stated [I]none[/I] of them were corrupt.
[QUOTE=Ragy;23884478]Yup, Mr. every CEO and every person in a high paying job is corrupt. :downs:[/QUOTE]
Did I fucking say that? No, you're the one who denies the existance of records proving that money can, and often fucking does corrupt the government to give corporations more benefits. Do you understand? You're denying EVIDENCE of such things. Your so ideologically fucking blinded, biased, and so fucking wrong it hurts.
I accept that sometimes conservative policies are right(Never socially conservative ones though) over liberal or socialist policies depending on the situation, you seem to be unable to grasp that anyone but your side can be right. Especially when your side hasn't been right for fucking years.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;23884612]Did I fucking say that? No, you're the one who denies the existance of records proving that money can, and often fucking does corrupt the government to give corporations more benefits. Do you understand? You're denying EVIDENCE of such things. Your so ideologically fucking blinded, biased, and so fucking wrong it hurts.
I accept that sometimes conservative policies are right(Never socially conservative ones though) over liberal or socialist policies depending on the situation, you seem to be unable to grasp that anyone but your side can be right. Especially when your side hasn't been right for fucking years.[/QUOTE]
Look a few posts up, you're ignorance pains me.
[QUOTE=Ragy;23884609]No. I first implied that all the rich are not corrupt. He then replied [I]they[/I] (implying the rich) have all had their hands in political pockets.
You can't read either, as I never stated [I]none[/I] of them were corrupt.[/QUOTE]
WHERE IN THE FUCK DID I SAY ALL RICH PEOPLE?
Where? Point to me where the fuck I said all. You make assumptions and then feed yourself your own bullshit to make you think your right. You're so full of shit.
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[QUOTE=Ragy;23884637]Look a few posts up, you're ignorance pains me.[/QUOTE]
Yours pains me more.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;23884390]Surprisingly not. I'm not, neither is billam or other posters. I'm only white out of those things.[/QUOTE]
You are a lesbian?
:q:
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;23884638]WHERE IN THE FUCK DID I SAY ALL RICH PEOPLE?
Where? Point to me where the fuck I said all. You make assumptions and then feed yourself your own bullshit to make you think your right. You're so full of shit.
[editline]06:36PM[/editline]
Yours pains me more.[/QUOTE]
"Hurr I don't understand simple grammar."
'They' applies to a group, which you used 'they' to state that the rich are all corrupt. Go back to school or stay in longer, you need it.
[QUOTE=Billiam;23884334]I'm an [B]Asian[/B] [I]Spaniard[/I] born in one of [B]New Jersey[/B]'s largest [I]cities[/I]. :colbert:[/QUOTE]
Haha!
[QUOTE=Ragy;23884552]Blind you are.
Also applying that all the rich care about is money.[/QUOTE]
You are grasping at straws so thin, that they are slipping through your hands.
[QUOTE=Billiam;23884707]You are grasping at straws so thin, that they are slipping through your hands.[/QUOTE]
Thin straws? No, it's all in his posts and you are denying all the evidence posted. Open your eyes and stop being so ignorant like him.
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;23884702]Haha![/QUOTE]
There are many asians here, man.
Unless you're making fun of asians and New Jersey :saddowns:
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