• Communism lives on in Japan.
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[QUOTE=Megafanx13;19439323]This is true. I did not know much about the appearance of Moscow University.[/QUOTE] Soviet architecture was generally very realist. A lot of masonry and metallurgy. Concrete and steel.
I will send as much aid as uganda can spare to these japanese fighters
[QUOTE=Mechanical43;19438933]Universal Healthcare is capitalism eh ? douche[/QUOTE] When the fuck did I say this? You said that a communist country should just have a free market until things become acceptable. But communism is all about NOT having a free market. I really don't fucking understand how you interpeted that as me saying Universal Healthcare is capitalistic. [editline]11:52PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Wakka;19439506]Soviet architecture was generally very realist. A lot of masonry and metallurgy. Concrete and steel.[/QUOTE] Soviet buildings were made of concrete and steel? What were the rest of the buildings in the world made of? Wood?
Since that guy didn't even know who Karl Marx was, I'm betting that most and if not every Japanese Communist member are not educated on how Communism took a nasty bite out of the economies of the former Soviet Union, China, and of course the East European countries. [QUOTE=Tameric;19438012]Communism is fail and always will be fail. It is just a shitty [b]form of government[/b].[/QUOTE] Communism is not a form of government, it's a economic and social system that is used by a oligarchy. A oligarchy is a form of government where a small group has both executive and legislative power, and Communism can only exist under one.
[QUOTE=Tameric;19439535]When the fuck did I say this? You said that a communist country should just have a free market until things become acceptable. But communism is all about NOT having a free market. I really don't fucking understand how you interpeted that as me saying Universal Healthcare is capitalistic. [editline]11:52PM[/editline] Soviet buildings were made of concrete and steel? What were the rest of the buildings in the world made of? Wood?[/QUOTE] Jesus, are you serious? Those aren't the only building materials. Concrete and steal were used because they're symbolic in that they represent the working class and hard work. In essence, it was realistic. [editline]09:01PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Comtochus;19439591]Since that guy didn't even know who Karl Marx was, I'm betting that most and if not every Japanese Communist member are not educated on how Communism took a nasty bite out of the economies of the former Soviet Union, China, and of course the East European countries. Communism is not a form of government, it's a economic and social system that is used by a oligarchy. A oligarchy is a form of government where a small group has both executive and legislative power, and Communism can only exist under one.[/QUOTE] Republic = form of government Socialism = ideology I'm a socialist republican :v: but I registered independent :saddowns:
Communism doesn't require everyone to be perfect; it requires everyone to be the same.
[QUOTE=Tameric;19439535]When the fuck did I say this? You said that a communist country should just have a free market until things become acceptable. But communism is all about NOT having a free market. I really don't fucking understand how you interpeted that as me saying Universal Healthcare is capitalistic. [/QUOTE] You are talking like every changes can be made abruptly... No everything takes time... So you take the freemarket and once you make small change to it and in the end you get a fully planned economy. What I was saying is that "capitalism" uses "communism" feats and for you vice versa would be against nature or something
[QUOTE=Mechanical43;19439747]You are talking like every changes can be made abruptly... No everything takes time... So you take the freemarket and once you make small change to it and in the end you get a fully planned economy. What I was saying is that "capitalism" uses "communism" feats and for you vice versa would be against nature or something[/QUOTE] You don't get the point. Communism is [B]about not having[/B] a free market. You can't just talk about an ideal situation where communism could work and then say a few posts later about using a free market.
[QUOTE=Fables;19439732]Communism doesn't require everyone to be perfect; it requires everyone to be the same.[/QUOTE] That is true. While not exactly the same, but in the same category. In a communist society the standard of living does progress, only very slowly because the system has to take in account for every person. [editline]09:17PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Tameric;19439819]You don't get the point. Communism is [B]about not having[/B] a free market. You can't just talk about an ideal situation where communism could work and then say a few posts later about using a free market.[/QUOTE] Communism can exist in a free market provided it's a player in the market. Whatever capital the communist government makes (from trade, etc.) is then dispensed amongst the people.
[QUOTE=Hunterbrute;19435928]Yeah exactly. [img]http://phrygianmode.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/communist_party.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Why doesn't Karl have a red cup? Everyone else has a red cup. This is not communism.
[QUOTE=Wakka;19439828] Communism can exist in a free market provided it's a player in the market. Whatever capital the communist government makes (from trade, etc.) is then dispensed amongst the people.[/QUOTE] We aren't talking about a communist country trading with members of a free market and making money from doing so. We are talking about a communist country having a free market where businesses are owned by individuals and they make their own products and own innovations to compete with other rivals companies to make more money. That is NOT communism. Communism is when [B]everything[/B] is owned by the government and there are no innovations [I]because[/I] there is no rivalry [I]because[/I] there are no competing companies [I]because[/I] the money earned by companies goes to the government. New products are the result of the consumer buying the latest and the greatest. Companies create the latest and the greatest and try to "one up" other companies with innovations and new ideas. This is the result of having a free market.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;19439876]Why doesn't Karl have a red cup? Everyone else has a red cup. This is not communism.[/QUOTE] But Karl has a lamp shade so in the end it evens out so all is fair.
[QUOTE=Hunterbrute;19439938]But Karl has a lamp shade so in the end it evens out so all is fair.[/QUOTE] No, he needs a red cup.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;19439958]No, he needs a red cup.[/QUOTE] 5 influential people, 4 cups :q:
[QUOTE=Tameric;19439935]We aren't talking about a communist country trading with members of a free market and making money from doing so. We are talking about a communist country having a free market where businesses are owned by individuals and they make their own products and own innovations to compete with other rivals companies to make more money. That is NOT communism. Communism is when [B]everything[/B] is owned by the government and there are no innovations [I]because[/I] there is no rivalry [I]because[/I] there are no competing companies [I]because[/I] the money earned by companies goes to the government. New products are the result of the consumer buying the latest and the greatest. Companies create the latest and the greatest and try to "one up" other companies with innovations and new ideas. This is the result of having a free market.[/QUOTE] And what is Capitalism ?? Capitalism borrowed a lot from communism still it's ok but if communism do this it's not communism anymore ?
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[QUOTE=Mechanical43;19440048]And what is Capitalism ?? Capitalism borrowed a lot from communism still it's ok but if communism do this it's not communism anymore ?[/QUOTE] We aren't talking about capitalism. We are talking about communism and how shitty it is. Communism [B][I]cannot[/I][/B] have a free market. If it does, then it is not communism. The central idea of communism is that the government owns everything and that everyone is equal. A free market is the EXACT opposite of this. When you said that a communist country should just adopt a free market until it gets stable.......you basically said that the country should stop using communism. You don't get it. Not having a free market in communism is the fucking point of communism. A free market is based on inequality, greed, unbalanced power, etc.
[QUOTE=Tameric;19439935] Communism is when [B]everything[/B] is owned by the government and there are no innovations [I]because[/I] there is no rivalry [I]because[/I] there are no competing companies [I]because[/I] the money earned by companies goes to the government. [/QUOTE] hey cool you don't actually know what communism is that clears a lot up [editline]06:37AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Tameric;19440253] The central idea of communism is that the government owns everything and that everyone is equal. [/QUOTE] yes, the principal of a classless, stateless society is that the government owns everything you are so smart!
[QUOTE=Perfumly;19439876]Why doesn't Karl have a red cup? Everyone else has a red cup. This is not communism.[/QUOTE] Karl never took part in a communistic society therefore he never tasted communism. The others cheer him on for mixing the wonderful drink though and awarded him with that beautiful lampshade. [QUOTE=Chippay;19440698] yes, the [B]principle[/B] of a classless, stateless society is that the government owns everything you are so smart![/QUOTE] A principal is something else.
[QUOTE=Tameric;19439535]When the fuck did I say this? You said that a communist country should just have a free market until things become acceptable. But communism is all about NOT having a free market. I really don't fucking understand how you interpeted that as me saying Universal Healthcare is capitalistic. [/QUOTE] Not me, man. A different guy said that. [editline]10:59PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Tameric;19439819]You don't get the point. Communism is [B]about not having[/B] a free market. You can't just talk about an ideal situation where communism could work and then say a few posts later about using a free market.[/QUOTE] Again, not me. Different guy.
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;19436506]I think you'll live.[/QUOTE] score one for the glorious pc gaming master race :smug:
Communism hardly seems like Japans cup of tea. They've grown too attached to fancy electronics and consumerism
Capitalism > Communism Face it commies :smug:
[img]http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/4605/dkagijiga2345.png[/img] :geno:
[QUOTE=N0 WAR;19441258]Capitalism > Communism Face it commies :smug:[/QUOTE] Communism > Capitalism Face it capitalist pig. :smug:
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;19441346]Communism > Capitalism Face it capitalist pig. :smug:[/QUOTE] Capitalism < Communism < Fascism :smug:
Communism =/= Capitalism >= Fascism Communism =/= Fascism Socialism >= Capitalism & Fascism
Bit like what's happening here in the UK, except here it's the BNP party. And as a side note; Communism doesn't work. The success-to-failure ratio for capitalism and communism shows this.
[QUOTE=Still 09;19440745] A principal is something else.[/QUOTE] i could not physically give any less of a shit that i made an irrelevant typo
[QUOTE=David29;19441676]Bit like what's happening here in the UK, except here it's the BNP party. And as a side note; Communism doesn't work. The success-to-failure ratio for capitalism and communism shows this.[/QUOTE] You just pulled that out of your ass. Explain as to why the USSR collapsed. And don't blame it on human nature, that's a fallacy.
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