We shouldn't be encouraging paedophiles (because thats what anyone who consumes lolicon is). The argument that it keeps them away from real kids is bullshit - they should be getting help.
[editline]27th August 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Gears of duty;41983898]Right, so now pedophiles have to use harmful CP to get their relief. Good going France.[/QUOTE]
This is exactly what I'm talking about - they shouldn't be getting "relief" they should be getting professional help.
considering how it's legal in so many other places, getting ahold of it wont be hard for the french pedos, but regardless. A strike against pedophiles is still a strike against pedophiles, and that I support to the fullest.
[QUOTE=BrainDeath;41983920]We shouldn't be encouraging paedophiles (because thats what anyone who consumes lolicon is). The argument that it keeps them away from real kids is bullshit - they should be getting help.[/QUOTE]
pedophiles should be getting help, but illegalizing lolicon won't push them in that direction. that will only push anyone looking for it towards real child porn which is an actual serious problem
[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;41983929]pedophiles should be getting help, but illegalizing lolicon won't push them in that direction. that will only push anyone looking for it towards real child porn which is an actual serious problem[/QUOTE]
how will making one thing illegal force someone else towards something else that carries exactly the same penalties
but by making it clear that their habits are not OK - and potentially arresting them before they start consuming REAL CP we can help people before anything bad happens
[QUOTE=BrainDeath;41983920] The argument that it keeps them away from real kids is bullshit - they should be getting help.
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It provides a legal and harmless outlet for their sexual urges, tell me how this is a bad thing?
[QUOTE=BrainDeath;41983938]how will making one thing illegal force someone else towards something else that carries exactly the same penalties[/QUOTE]
skipping the legal middleman that doesn't harm anyone to actual child porn. if they're gonna go for it, then they're gonna go all out.
[QUOTE=BrainDeath;41983920]We shouldn't be encouraging paedophiles (because thats what anyone who consumes lolicon is). The argument that it keeps them away from real kids is bullshit - they should be getting help.[/QUOTE]
Paedophiles are not the issue; child molesters are.
Not all paedophiles are child molesters, not all child molesters are paedophiles.
[QUOTE=BrainDeath;41983920]The argument that it keeps them away from real kids is bullshit - they should be getting help.[/QUOTE]
How often do you hear about pedophiles getting help rather than getting locked up?
[QUOTE=Scar;41983940]It provides a legal and harmless outlet for their sexual urges, tell me how this is a bad thing?[/QUOTE]
because it's an admission by the law that the country is somehow OK with harbouring people who are sexually attracted to children
it induces something to the effect of "i don't need help what i'm doing isn't even illegal/wrong"
[QUOTE=Simski;41983944]How often do you hear about pedophiles getting help rather than getting locked up?[/QUOTE]
yea, how exactly do you suppose pedophiles are meant to get help?
they'd probably kill themselves out of shame before admitting themselves to a mental clinic
Dear god this thread is filled with lolicon apologists.
[QUOTE=BrainDeath;41983948]because it's an admission by the law that the country is somehow OK with harbouring people who are sexually attracted to children[/QUOTE]
Because they totally chose to be attracted to children, right?
They just woke up one morning and decided, "yeah, I'm gonna be a kiddy diddler now!".
Think before you post, locking people up for things they have no control over isn't a nice thing to do
Shit's gross and needs to be illegalized in every country, end of story.
[QUOTE=BrainDeath;41983948]because it's an admission by the law that the country is somehow OK with harbouring people who are sexually attracted to children[/QUOTE]
People cannot help being attracted to children, and it isn't fair to demonise someone based on a facet of their sexuality.
[QUOTE=Cowabanga;41983952]Dear god this thread is filled with lolicon apologists.[/QUOTE]
i can't imagine us agreeing on much cowa but you're right it's really disturbing
[QUOTE=BrainDeath;41983948]because it's an admission by the law that the country is somehow OK with harbouring people who are sexually attracted to children
it induces something to the effect of "i don't need help what i'm doing isn't even illegal/wrong"[/QUOTE]
so we're just gonna make fictional media that doesn't actually harm anyone because you deem it weird? that's understandable, pedophilia is smack bang at the bottom of the moral scale for good reason, but drawings don't hurt anyone. they don't contribute to child porn and abuse rings.
[QUOTE=Scar;41983957]Because they totally chose to be attracted to children, right?
They just woke up one morning and decided, "yeah, I'm gonna be a kiddy diddler now!".
Think before you post, locking people up for things they have no control over isn't a nice thing to do[/QUOTE]
they can choose to stop - to seek treatment
[editline]27th August 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;41983959]People cannot help being attracted to children, and it isn't fair to demonise someone based on a facet of their sexuality.[/QUOTE]
oh my god you're literally a pedophile apologist that's absolutely disgusting
[QUOTE=Cowabanga;41983958]Shit's gross and needs to be illegalized in every country, end of story.[/QUOTE]
Think of a fetish you've got, any of them will do.
That shit's gross and should be illegal everywhere, you're scum for enjoying it and I would take pleasure in pissing on your grave.
I trust I needn't go further with this.
[QUOTE=BrainDeath;41983965]they can choose to stop - to seek treatment
[editline]27th August 2013[/editline]
oh my god you're literally a pedophile apologist that's absolutely disgusting[/QUOTE]
They can choose to stop being attacked to males, homosexuals should seek treatment!
Russia is totally in the right
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;41983973]Think of a fetish you've got, any of them will do.
That shit's gross and should be illegal everywhere, you're scum for enjoying it and I would take pleasure in pissing on your grave.
I trust I needn't go further with this.[/QUOTE]
you're an idiot if you think pedophillia is a fetish
Well, no pedophile will ever ask for help because admitting you are one would result in demonizing by people who think pedophile=child rapist, and because it's such a touchy subject no one will educate them otherwise, and anyone who does is seen to support child rape and abuse. It's all so frustratingly counter productive.
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;41983973]Think of a fetish you've got, any of them will do.
That shit's gross and should be illegal everywhere, you're scum for enjoying it and I would take pleasure in pissing on your grave.
I trust I needn't go further with this.[/QUOTE]
It's fucking depiction of underage girls being sexualized and penetrated. Pedophilia isn't a fetish.
Just wow. I'm not a fan of Lolicon but I don't have anything against it, and this just seems absurd. Lolicon being judged as child porn is like judging someone for murder because they killed someone in a video game.
[QUOTE=Scar;41983979]They can choose to stop being attacked to males, homosexuals should seek treatment!
Russia is totally in the right[/QUOTE]
ok now you're comparing pedophillia to homosexuality - on either side of the argument that's absolutely vile
My main gripe with laws like this is: Who is going to be the judge, and by what criteria? Who decides whether or not an illustrated androgynous-looking character of unspecified age in some anime, portrayed in a revealing context for comical relief, qualifies as child porn?
[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;41983989]If it's not a fetish, what is it?[/QUOTE]
Mental illness.
[QUOTE=BrainDeath;41983987]ok now you're comparing pedophillia to homosexuality - on either side of the argument that's absolutely vile[/QUOTE]
People don't choose to be homosexual.
Neither do people choose to be pedophiles.
there's nothing wrong with lolicon wtf
[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;41983989]If it's not a fetish, what is it?[/QUOTE]
It's a paraphilia.
[QUOTE=Cowabanga;41984002]Mental illness.[/QUOTE]
Same could be said about homosexuality
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