• Lolicon now illegal in France.
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[QUOTE=AJisAwesome15;41985722]my brother watches some anime thing where the girls are like 2 ft tall but they're like in high school or college or whatever so yeah[/QUOTE] Lucky Star does the same thing too - all the main characters look like they're 11, but they're actually suppose to be 17. And of course there's a lot of anime porn about all the girls in Lucky Star, especially because the girls look like they're only halfway through puberty. oops ninja'd by a longshot
[QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;41985759]anime laws of aging are hilarious [/QUOTE] Banning flat chested porn is the only solution, the final solution.
midget porn needs 2 go damaging our society
What about games/visual novels like Katawa Shoujo? I'm assuming they would be banned?
[QUOTE=Factemius;41983841]Law applies for drawing of -15 years old.[/QUOTE]I think this may be getting overlooked a bit. Characters that can now get you branded as a pedophile in France: Misty from [i]Pokemon[/i] ...Come to think of it, pretty much anyone from Pokemon The entire [i]Sailor Moon[/i] cast Gaige the Mechromancer from [i]Borderlands 2[/i] A good chunk of the X-Men Disney's Snow White Characters just [i]barely[/i] exempt of making you a kiddy diddler in the law's eyes: Every other lead Disney character (With Jasmine from [i]Aladdin[/i] toeing the line at fifteen exactly) Yoko Littner from [i]Gurren Lagann[/i] Heather Mason from [i]Silent Hill 3[/i] Juliet Starling from [i]Lollipop Chainsaw[/i] Lara croft in [i]The Last Revelation[/i]
[QUOTE=Pennywise;41986133]I think this may be getting overlooked a bit. Characters that can now get you branded as a pedophile in France: Misty from [i]Pokemon[/i] ...Come to think of it, pretty much anyone from Pokemon The entire [i]Sailor Moon[/i] cast Gaige the Mechromancer from [i]Borderlands 2[/i] A good chunk of the X-Men Disney's Snow White Characters just [i]barely[/i] exempt of making you a kiddy diddler in the law's eyes: Every other lead Disney character (With Jasmine from [i]Aladdin[/i] toeing the line at fifteen exactly) Yoko Littner from [i]Gurren Lagann[/i] Heather Mason from [i]Silent Hill 3[/i] Juliet Starling from [i]Lollipop Chainsaw[/i] Lara croft in [i]The Last Revelation[/i][/QUOTE] Yeah but they'd have to be naked
[QUOTE=Pennywise;41986133]Every other lead Disney character (With Jasmine from [i]Aladdin[/i] toeing the line at fifteen exactly)[/QUOTE] What really? I had no idea Disney was also into making girls look older than they really are.
[QUOTE=Cowabanga;41984002]Mental illness.[/QUOTE] do you have any scientific evidence to back up that claim or are you going to keep pulling bullshit out of your ass? really, people? just because you think it's "gross" or "icky" doesn't mean it's a mental illness. you're just being a flat-out asshole. i'm not interested in loli or any of that stuff, but holy shit you people care WAY too much about the harmless things people do in the confines of their own homes. it's none of your god damned business for fucks sake.
[QUOTE=Pennywise;41986133]...Come to think of it, pretty much anyone from Pokemon[/QUOTE] That just made me imagine someone getting arrested by getting into a fight with the possibly perverted girl in a bikini in pokemon platinum/diamond/pearl
[QUOTE=Pennywise;41986133]I think this may be getting overlooked a bit. Characters that can now get you branded as a pedophile in France: Misty from [i]Pokemon[/i] ...Come to think of it, pretty much anyone from Pokemon The entire [i]Sailor Moon[/i] cast Gaige the Mechromancer from [i]Borderlands 2[/i] A good chunk of the X-Men Disney's Snow White Characters just [i]barely[/i] exempt of making you a kiddy diddler in the law's eyes: Every other lead Disney character (With Jasmine from [i]Aladdin[/i] toeing the line at fifteen exactly) Yoko Littner from [i]Gurren Lagann[/i] Heather Mason from [i]Silent Hill 3[/i] Juliet Starling from [i]Lollipop Chainsaw[/i] Lara croft in [i]The Last Revelation[/i][/QUOTE] why do you even watch snow white porn
This thread is the easiest game of spot the pedo I've ever played. I have some strange fetish's so I can't totally talk but seeing people getting super upset and defending it is really odd to me. Yeah it's drawn children but it's still enabling the behavior, people can say there's no study saying it increases chances of molestation but I don't think there's anything saying it decreases either other then a handful of people saying otherwise, which isn't fair as people aren't going to come out and say "Yeah looking at underage anime girls totally made me go rape a orphanage". That argument is totally fucked because of that. Rate me dumb all you want, doesn't change the fact I'm right on my point.
[QUOTE=Sift;41986799]This thread is the easiest game of spot the pedo I've ever played. I have some strange fetish's so I can't totally talk but seeing people getting super upset and defending it is really odd to me. Yeah it's drawn children but it's still enabling the behavior, people can say there's no study saying it increases chances of molestation but I don't think there's anything saying it decreases either other then a handful of people saying otherwise, which isn't fair as people aren't going to come out and say "Yeah looking at underage anime girls totally made me go rape a orphanage". That argument is totally fucked because of that. Rate me dumb all you want, doesn't change the fact I'm right on my point.[/QUOTE] what point are you even making? that you can't find any support for either side of the story?
[QUOTE=ief014;41986850]what point are you even making? that you can't find any support for either side of the story?[/QUOTE] In this thread I see a lot of "but this guy totally said lolicon kept him from raping kids! See, it proves it keeps them in check!" Which is a + for that dude sure, but nobody, absolutely no one is going to say "Yeah Lolicon made me go fuck children" because that would grill the shit out of them. It's a lopsided argument because yeah you have people saying it prevented it for them, but the other side won't speak up for the obvious reasons. I just find the argument stupid because of that, not even talking if banning it is right or wrong.
This just in: Lolicons everywhere in france turn to furries, catgirls and cub-porn to get around lolicon legality
[QUOTE=Sift;41986872]In this thread I see a lot of "but this guy totally said lolicon kept him from raping kids! See, it proves it keeps them in check!" Which is a + for that dude sure, but nobody, absolutely no one is going to say "Yeah Lolicon made me go fuck children" because that would grill the shit out of them. It's a lopsided argument because yeah you have people saying it prevented it for them, but the other side won't speak up for the obvious reasons. I just find the argument stupid because of that, not even talking if banning it is right or wrong.[/QUOTE] that's not the reason why you're receiving negative feedback. [QUOTE=Sift;41986799]Yeah it's drawn children but it's still enabling the behavior, people can say there's no study saying it increases chances of molestation but I don't think there's anything saying it decreases either other then a handful of people saying otherwise ...[/QUOTE] here you state that it's enabling the behaviour of child rape, despite explicitly saying that you have no clue if there's any studies for either side of the argument. [editline].[/editline] you do have a point, but just because people are or are not going to tell their side of the story, it doesn't justify whether this ban is necessary or not.
[QUOTE=KorJax;41986896]This just in: Lolicons everywhere in france turn to furries, catgirls and cub-porn to get around lolicon legality[/QUOTE] Like they literally transformed. It's a goddamn living nightmare over there right now as recolored Liono from the thundercats roam the streets
[QUOTE=KorJax;41986896]This just in: Lolicons everywhere in france turn to furries, catgirls and cub-porn to get around lolicon legality[/QUOTE] Wait people who wank to lolicons are called Lolicons?
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[QUOTE=ief014;41986921]that's not the reason why you're receiving negative feedback. here you state that it's enabling the behaviour of child rape, despite explicitly saying that you have no clue if there's any studies for either side of the argument.[/QUOTE] Yeah I'm saying it enables it because when there's no safe way to tell how it effects people in this situation, feeding it probably doesn't help. Once again, not saying the bans right or wrong but seeing "Well I'm never going to france again!" is kinda skeevy.
[QUOTE=Sift;41986943]Once again, not saying the bans right or wrong but seeing "Well I'm never going to france again!" is kinda skeevy.[/QUOTE] When did anyone say this?
[QUOTE=Sift;41986943]Yeah I'm saying it enables it because when there's no safe way to tell how it effects people in this situation, feeding it probably doesn't help. Once again, not saying the bans right or wrong but seeing "Well I'm never going to france again!" is kinda skeevy.[/QUOTE] how do you know it enables them to behave that way if you haven't even looked into it?
leave it to facepunch to go apeshit after their anime kiddie porn is banned [highlight](User was banned for this post ("why reply?" - Megafan))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Sift;41986943]Yeah I'm saying it enables it because when there's no safe way to tell how it effects people in this situation, feeding it probably doesn't help. Once again, not saying the bans right or wrong but seeing "Well I'm never going to france again!" is kinda skeevy.[/QUOTE] The typical way of ensuring a free and innovative society is to have any activity remain legal until there is evidence suggesting why it shouldn't be.
A lot of people seem to think that most people who are into lolicon are either into real kids too or exclusively like lolis. I like lolis in a "A loli is fine too" sense but I don't like real kids at all, I find them gross. That's point one. Point two is that when I look at drawn porn I really don't care what age the character might be... If I find an image arousing, I save the image. In drawn porn any age difference is mostly head size, eye size, height and chest size. Which is just nitpicking, really. Not to mention, lolis are often very different in body type from real children. The crushing majority of people who like lolicon don't find real children arousing. Where I'm trying to get is, comparing loli to CP is often unreasonable as reality is very different from stylized drawings so assuming the target audience for loli images are actual pedos is a mistake.
[QUOTE=*Freezorg*;41987187]A lot of people seem to think that most people who are into lolicon are either into real kids too or exclusively like lolis. I like lolis but I don't like real kids at all, I find them gross. That's point one. Point two is that when I look at drawn porn I really don't care what age the character might be... If I find an image arousing, I save the image. In drawn porn any age difference is mostly head size, eye size, height and chest size. Which is just nitpicking, really.[/QUOTE] Thank you for sharing your pornographic preferences, I guess.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;41987207]Thank you for sharing your pornographic preferences, I guess.[/QUOTE] Derp. I was making a point so don't give me that.
I feel like this banning of lolicon is the same argument that's used for violent video games. There's no real evidence that looking at loli porn will lead to actual child rape or molestation. If anything I'd assume having an outlet for those types of fantasies would be enough to satisfy people and perhaps prevent them from actually doing it in real life. That being said, that's just my assumption, so it doesn't really mean anything at all until there's real evidence. I don't think it's right to create laws like this just because people think it's "gross." Also a funny thought I had. Does the quality of the picture matter? If I draw a half-assed stick figure with a dick and say he's 12, does that put my picture under scrutiny? Do you actually have to be a decent artist for the law to affect you? There just seems to be way too much of a grey area, I don't fully understand how this law can be fairly enforced...
[QUOTE=*Freezorg*;41987228]Derp. I was making a point so don't give me that.[/QUOTE] You could've stated a point without telling us that you enjoy drawn little kids, and now everyone knows about it. Congratulations.
[QUOTE=elevate;41987277]You could've stated a point without telling us that you enjoy drawn little kids, and now everyone knows about it. Congratulations.[/QUOTE] Who fucking cares. It's a valid point.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;41987301]Who fucking cares. It's a valid point.[/QUOTE] everyone who commented about it cares duuh
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